tinyclanger2 wrote:howsillyofme1 wrote:pk1 wrote:
Just read and agreed with every word. It's as depressing as hell but the PLP are frozen; they can't make moves against him.
I read an article yesterday, the final sentence of which was:
Not hard to disagree with that but the realisation that there are Labour voters who don't care if Labour are ever returned to power, is sobering.
I see there is no change to the weak lazy shite that is posted on this forum now (apart from Hindle and a few others)
I have never read such complete and utter bollocks in my life....well since I read Tubby's last post that is (so my life must be very short)
Interesting to see you are all floundering with nothing positive to add......some of us are sticking with Labour as we see it as the best hope to stop this march rightwards as promoted by that master of rendition and cowardice D Miliband this morning, supported by the dead hand of Mandelson (he was such a man of integrity wasn't he)
You may also notice that I have not mentioned Corbyn up to now.....is that because I do not really see him as the issue here and that the fundamental problem is with the make up and organisation of the party from top to bottom...a rot that started in the late part of the last Labour Government
Continue with you frothing and ranting folks but I have not seen any indications that those who dominate the board now have anything really to offer the discussion apart from saying they hate Corbyn, hate Labour and support someone else
Corbyn is weakened after Copeland but I have seen no suggestions as to who should replace him.....go on give us a name so we can start a bit of character assassination on them...Own Smith, David Miliband, Angela Eagle.......you are clearly looking for someone who is both for and against Brexit, for and against austerity, for and against immigration and who also has a thick enough skin to put up with the character assassination led by the non-entities in the media (Renoul hahaha, Sam Bourne crap novelist etc)
I will leave you to the Tubby and Hugo show......
The Board is not currently what it was because a load of people left. Hopefully some more will come in time. But as I've mentioned before, the dropping in to tell us off (largely you and Tem) probably doesn't make the board more attractive. I, personally (I can't speak for anyone else here because I don't know them) would really appreciate it if you both a) stop referring to us as if we are an identical group and b) stop talking to us in a way I find it extremely unlikely that you would do face to face (see the rules of posting here).
Thanks!
I am not telling you that you are wrong to be honest...I am just saying that this particular post was symptomatic of some of the lazy rubbish that certain posters (and not all as I said in my post above) continue to post
The post I referred to was actually far more generalistic than anything I posted as was offensive as it was wrong...I have thus designated it as 'shite'
It is the reason I left originally, the consistent ranting about Corbyn with no nuance and consideration for any other possibilities
I did spend a lot of time trying to explain my position but was called a 'cultist' and various other things...suggesting that the poster who did this was either unable to follow an argument or was just totally biased to seeing what they wanted to see
Last time when I was here discussion Brexit - I came back if you remember to help support PfY who was getting a torrid time from some of you folks...and there were some pretty abusive and angry posts. You then went on an irrational rant against me for calling one of Tubby's posts 'incoherent' which to be honest still describes a lot of what he posts, as he doesn't seem to be able to see past Corbyn.
It is a bit much when Hugo is more moderate than 50% of the posters on here - and he likes John Rentoul!
I came back today to reply to that particular post as it was a ridiculous statement and I couldn't let it pass
Labour is in a difficult position, it is there because the party is not happy in its own skin and is looking for some direction. If the party wants to change the leader then put someone up against him and win. If the candidate is good then I will vote for him or her. What matters to me is not the personality of the leader but their policies and direction of travel
I challenged you earlier to come up with another name......I have yet to see one come up
I don't post here any more because I find the atmosphere poor and you cannot get very far without someone bringing up Corbyn and then followed by a whole lot of moaning about him...or if it isn't him then it is Brexit followed by a lot of moaning about Corbyn
This is despite some posters, highlighting interesting links and bringing other subjects to the board...most of which go uncommented on
Don't blame me and Temulkar that this board is less popular and more tetchy than it was - it wan't us that caused PfY from to walk away was it? And the attitude when he went was pretty much 'Good Riddance' from one or two of the more unpleasant individuals on here
TC2 carry on blaming me and Temulkar if you want - speaking for myself I don't really care that much (although I will continue to read as I find some of the comments on here interesting - even if most people on here ignore them)
I will also respond occasionally if there is a post, like today, that I think is ridiculous and should be challenged