Saturday 25th & Sunday 26th February 2017

[Tubby Isaacs]

O'Hagan reckons Reed was "despised locally".

Bit strong? Acted silly since 2015 but reasonably popular before, I thought.

[AnatolyKasparov]

O'Hagan reckons Reed was "despised locally".

Bit strong? Acted silly since 2015 but reasonably popular before, I thought.

That is pretty accurate tbh - though I think his increasing presence on Twitter was starting to jar with some even before the last GE.

(and the praise he got from media types on there definitely went to his head, I think)

Tbh I think that O'Hagan piece is rather good and honest, despite your quibble just above.

[SpinningHugo]

He really isn't - Attlee's putdown to Laski is highly apposite here.

It is widely reported (and backed up by multiple non-Labour sources) that resentment at how he "flounced out" of his job was a significant factor in the byelection result.

Really? You honestly think people voted Tory because of that?

Seems to me like the kind of claim those floundering around for a way to blame the tiny cohort of "Bitterites" make.

A guy who has managed to whittle a safe lead into a marginal one and then drifts away when things aren't to his liking...and you think that doesn't affect how people vote? He is supposed to be their representative.

It wasn't marginal. That being, you know, the problem.

[AnatolyKasparov]

Um yes, boundary changes before the 2010 GE *did* make it a marginal and the Tories targeted it heavily then for that reason (and had genuine hopes of winning - JR's result on that occasion was little short of outstanding and one of Labour's best in the country) The only landslide Labour victory in Whitehaven/Copeland since Mrs Thatcher came to power was in 1997 - the Tories have always had a solid base of support and an active local party.

It is a horrible defeat for all sorts of reasons, but the belief in much of the media that it is equivalent to Bolsover or Blaydon is pretty daft.

[SpinningHugo]

O'Hagan reckons Reed was "despised locally".

Bit strong? Acted silly since 2015 but reasonably popular before, I thought.

That is pretty accurate tbh - though I think his increasing presence on Twitter was starting to jar with some even before the last GE.

(and the praise he got from media types on there definitely went to his head, I think)

Tbh I think that O'Hagan piece is rather good and honest, despite your quibble just above.

I rather doubt whether the likes of Ellie Mae have demonstrated great judgement over Corbs, by their own admission.

[SpinningHugo]

Um yes, boundary changes before the 2010 GE *did* make it a marginal and the Tories targeted it heavily then for that reason (and had genuine hopes of winning - JR's result then was little short of outstanding and one of the best in the country) The only landslide Labour victory in Whitehaven/Copeland since Mrs Thatcher came to power was in 1997 - the Tories have always had a solid base of support and an active local party.

It is a horrible defeat for all sorts of reasons, but the belief in much of the media that it is equivalent to Bolsover or Blaydon is pretty daft.

How can a seat that was the 30th most marginal seat *after* Labour lost so badly in 2015 be a "marginal"?

This is also mid-term, not a general election.

[tinybgoat]

http://www.vox.com/culture/2017/2/13/14 ... p-spoilers

The Lego Batman Movie isn't about Donald Trump, but it has lessons for him anyhow

[HindleA]

RIP Gerald Kaufman

[AnatolyKasparov]

Not, sadly, a surprise.

[HindleA]

True

[citizenJA]

Goodnight, everyone.
love,
cJA

[HindleA]

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NHS accused of covering up huge data loss that put thousands at risk
Exclusive: More than 500,000 pieces of patient data between GPs and hospitals went undelivered between 2011 and 2016

[HindleA]

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United effort required to tackle huge challenges facing the NHS


PAC

[HindleA]

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Emmanuel Macron on course to beat Marine Le Pen in French presidential election, according to polls

[HindleA]

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Scrap benefits sanctions or risk mental health crisis, doctors warn

[Temulkar]

I met Gerald Kaufman at a dinner party twenty years ago, I didn't realise he was in his 60s then, he seemed so much younger, and was very funny. Annother by election, I wonder if Paul Nuttall will dare to run.

Anyway after a day in Prince Phillip hospital, I can confirm that the NHS in Wales is fucking brilliant.

[HindleA]

Hope everything went o.k.

[HindleA]

There is a poll on a matter of National import in the pub.

[AnatolyKasparov]

I met Gerald Kaufman at a dinner party twenty years ago, I didn't realise he was in his 60s then, he seemed so much younger, and was very funny. Annother by election, I wonder if Paul Nuttall will dare to run.

Anyway after a day in Prince Phillip hospital, I can confirm that the NHS in Wales is fucking brilliant.

Nuttall will fight the coming Leigh contest, if he dares to show his face anywhere again

[Temulkar]

I met Gerald Kaufman at a dinner party twenty years ago, I didn't realise he was in his 60s then, he seemed so much younger, and was very funny. Annother by election, I wonder if Paul Nuttall will dare to run.
.Anyway after a day in Prince Phillip hospital, I can confirm that the NHS in Wales is fucking brilliant.

Nuttall will fight the coming Leigh contest, if he dares to show his face anywhere again

I cant see UKIP winning in either, or the tories, but Im sure the 'narrative' won't change. Coup 2 seems to be dying on its arse as Red Velvet fails to appear once again, and Nuttall couldnt do the decent thing and win in Stoke, of course.

[Temulkar]

Hope everything went o.k.

Yeah, it'll be fine I think.

[HindleA]

Good

[HindleA]

More on the Irene Clennell deportation


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"Family Test'

[HindleA]

Fuck up at the Oscars.