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https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 ... ean-report" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Access to nature reduces depression and obesity, finds European study
Trees and green spaces are unrecognised healers offering benefits from increases in mental wellbeing to allergy reductions, says report
Middle-aged Scottish men with homes in deprived but verdant areas were found to have a death rate 16% lower than their more urban counterparts. Pregnant women also received a health boost from a greener environment, recording lower blood pressures and giving birth to larger babies, research in Bradford found.
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Tubby Isaacs wrote:
StephenDolan wrote:
Tubby Isaacs wrote:http://www.politics.co.uk/comment-analy ... ard-brexit
And Labour supporters surely want it far less than average. What's Corbyn waiting for? He should have done his own polling of this, instead of polling what people think of Rebecca Long-Bailey.
Don't parties poll all the time on a number of topics? Ditto focus groups? Try out lines, phrases, attempt to detect trends in public opinion to specific topics?

Is this approach old hat, never taken, too expensive etc?

(Switches on the AK signal searchlight :))
I'm sure they do. Labour ought to be picking this stuff up before it happens.

It isn't too late, by any means, but as others have been saying today, he doesn't seem to have got non-tariff barriers properly.

Soft Brexit (you can argue it with an immigration brake too, if you want to cover that flank) joins everything up- the economy, Scotland, UK's dented public image.

Lots of (pre 2015) will have voted for Corbyn as a break from sterile Spads. He's done some good on that front, but as David Blanchflower said, if you come from there, you've got to learn fast, and he isn't.
Soft Brexit needs the decoupling of the 4 fundamentals. Ramping up of rhetoric doesn't help. How much of it is for show I dunno.

Given the push for exceptions for the farming industry, the building industry, the banking sector, I wonder if we'll end up with an immigration policy that's naming doesn't match the reality.
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Far-right millionaire: I'll use social media network to back Scottish independence
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... -far-right" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Very Aaron Banks
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StephenDolan wrote:
Tubby Isaacs wrote:
StephenDolan wrote: Don't parties poll all the time on a number of topics? Ditto focus groups? Try out lines, phrases, attempt to detect trends in public opinion to specific topics?

Is this approach old hat, never taken, too expensive etc?

(Switches on the AK signal searchlight :))
I'm sure they do. Labour ought to be picking this stuff up before it happens.

It isn't too late, by any means, but as others have been saying today, he doesn't seem to have got non-tariff barriers properly.

Soft Brexit (you can argue it with an immigration brake too, if you want to cover that flank) joins everything up- the economy, Scotland, UK's dented public image.

Lots of (pre 2015) will have voted for Corbyn as a break from sterile Spads. He's done some good on that front, but as David Blanchflower said, if you come from there, you've got to learn fast, and he isn't.
Soft Brexit needs the decoupling of the 4 fundamentals. Ramping up of rhetoric doesn't help. How much of it is for show I dunno.

Given the push for exceptions for the farming industry, the building industry, the banking sector, I wonder if we'll end up with an immigration policy that's naming doesn't match the reality.
Indeed.

No argument at all that the UK rhetoric is stupid. But there's an audience there for people who are frank about trade offs. It'll surely grow.
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I've said before I thought it was interesting Clegg said there was a Soft Brexit waiting to happen if ground was given on immigration.
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adam wrote:Following on from yesterday about the FBI investigating Russia's role in the election - today's news says that this investigation was going on before the election - contemporaneous the investigation into Clinton's emails - but for some reason it was decided that it was necessary to publish the fact that Clinton's emails were being investigated, but not the Trump teams' connections with Russia.
I see.
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Willow904 wrote:
Brexit study shows we want free trade as well as immigration control
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... on-control" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

:roll:

It's a sad reflection on both our media and our politicians that people actually think this possible in any meaningful sense.
Yes. I've been on and off away from the news and computer today - I've not kept up and just noticed this news. I just shook my head at it. I understand it's difficult sometimes finding out facts and information essential to know. But this...
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tinyclanger2 wrote:
https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 ... ean-report" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Access to nature reduces depression and obesity, finds European study
Trees and green spaces are unrecognised healers offering benefits from increases in mental wellbeing to allergy reductions, says report
Middle-aged Scottish men with homes in deprived but verdant areas were found to have a death rate 16% lower than their more urban counterparts. Pregnant women also received a health boost from a greener environment, recording lower blood pressures and giving birth to larger babies, research in Bradford found.
Interesting study
Connection to the land in whatever small way it's accomplished
It saved my life
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StephenDolan wrote:Soft Brexit needs the decoupling of the 4 fundamentals. Ramping up of rhetoric doesn't help. How much of it is for show I dunno.

Given the push for exceptions for the farming industry, the building industry, the banking sector, I wonder if we'll end up with an immigration policy that's naming doesn't match the reality.
(cJA edit)

The exemptions make me wary. What we'll end up with is the aristocracy getting everything they want out of the EU while regular people are kept from their former access studying, living and working abroad. Work visas and whatever won't cut it. If freedom of movement is gone, the aristocracy has won.
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https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... ard-editor" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Ethics committee may ask Osborne to decline Evening Standard role
Under-fire former chancellor tells fellow MPs ‘parliament is enhanced when we have people from all walks of life’
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Osborne becomes the remainers’ great hope

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... great-hope" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
the hell he is
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tinyclanger2 wrote:
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... ard-editor" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Ethics committee may ask Osborne to decline Evening Standard role
Under-fire former chancellor tells fellow MPs ‘parliament is enhanced when we have people from all walks of life’
shameless, unwholesome, blackguard
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tinyclanger2 wrote:
Far-right millionaire: I'll use social media network to back Scottish independence
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... -far-right" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Very Aaron Banks
But not the first to try to buy a referendum:
Their latest donation brings the Weirs’ total gifts to the SNP to £3m, in addition to £3.5m they gave to the independence campaign Yes Scotland in the lead-up to the referendum. Souter has now given the SNP nearly £2.6m since March 2007. The scale of these gifts will put the Labour party under intense pressure to match that spending in Scotland during the general election campaign, to protect dozens of seats in central Scotland expected to be under threat from the SNP. A Guardian analysis has identified up to 20 seats at risk, including Dundee West, Edinburgh East, Falkirk, Inverclyde and Ochil and South Perthshire.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... donate-snp
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You might or might not be aware that the chancer, Richard Murphy, is scuttling after the SNP for work and fans.

Great take down of him here.

http://rwbblog.blogspot.co.uk/2017/03/w ... chard.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 41406.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
EU will take UK to International Court if it refuses to pay £50bn divorce bill, 'leaked document' says
A draft plan – apparently obtained by a Dutch newspaper – threatens a long legal battle to grab back what the EU regards as the UK’s liabilities, if Theresa May refuses to pay up
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Hi All

Re: GuidoFawkes fuss about shortlisted Gorton candidates attending "Khomeinist" rallies

I just popped this photo of Yasmine Dar on his Twitter from the same event last year and asked him if anything strikes him ;-)
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Well, those tactics went to well against Sadiq Khan...

Hi Paul!
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Tubby Isaacs wrote:You might or might not be aware that the chancer, Richard Murphy, is scuttling after the SNP for work and fans.

Great take down of him here.

http://rwbblog.blogspot.co.uk/2017/03/w ... chard.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Supporting the views of the SNP (or griping at Westminster, which is the same thing to Nats) in the National is rather like supporting Brexit in the Express. In both cases facts or logic are a liability.
Maybe Murphy is aiming for the commission to write the next "white paper" for the SNP.
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Tubby Isaacs wrote:Well, those tactics went to well against Sadiq Khan...

Hi Paul!
Hi!

Indeed. A quick peruse of her Twitter makes me think she'd be a great MP.

Hopefully Guido's tactics will backfire!
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citizenJA wrote:
tinyclanger2 wrote:
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... ard-editor" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Ethics committee may ask Osborne to decline Evening Standard role
Under-fire former chancellor tells fellow MPs ‘parliament is enhanced when we have people from all walks of life’
shameless, unwholesome, blackguard
Mountebank!
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http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 41541.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Results of the survey are a clear reflection of the 'pick-and-mix attitude' of the electorate, the writer of the report says
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Oh Len....

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/l ... 05db530c5d" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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And finally:
Minis could be latest victim of Brexit as BMW boss hints at moving production out of UK
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/busin ... 42081.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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SpinningHugo wrote:Oh Len....

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/l ... 05db530c5d" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
You are Guido and I claim my £5 :twisted:
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I'd be scared of 'Brexit' regardless of government in leadership.
This Tory government and 'Brexit' are nightmarish
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Donaeld The Unready‏ @donaeldunready 3h3 hours ago

All longship travellers coming to Mercia will have to check swords etc into the hold. Need to stop these carry on weapons. I won't ax again.
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https://www.theguardian.com/healthcare- ... ys-failure" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


My ambulance crew is forced to put a plaster over society's failure
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Better half used to have a Mini Cooper,she drove fast but well,advanced driver.She gave me a one minute lesson in an empty carpark once,if we had been married it could have meant a divorce.
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SpinningHugo wrote:Oh Len....

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/l ... 05db530c5d" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Not all that much there.

Apart from an odd sounding denial about "private meeting" with Lansman.
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Eric_WLothian wrote:
Tubby Isaacs wrote:You might or might not be aware that the chancer, Richard Murphy, is scuttling after the SNP for work and fans.

Great take down of him here.

http://rwbblog.blogspot.co.uk/2017/03/w ... chard.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Supporting the views of the SNP (or griping at Westminster, which is the same thing to Nats) in the National is rather like supporting Brexit in the Express. In both cases facts or logic are a liability.
Maybe Murphy is aiming for the commission to write the next "white paper" for the SNP.
I'm actually impressed that Corbyn and McDonnell didn't bother too much with him.
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I'm interested to see that this "Global Laundromat". Gordo deregulated the banks, turned a blind eye, no doubt?

Oh. It ran from 2010-14.
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Oh dear.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/two-ohio-co ... -the-dust/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Electricity company Dayton Power & Light said on Monday it would shut down two coal-fired power plants in southern Ohio next year for economic reasons, a setback for the ailing coal industry but a victory for environmental activists.

Republican President Donald Trump promised in his election campaign to restore U.S. coal jobs that he said had been destroyed by environmental regulations put into effect by his Democratic predecessor, Barack Obama.

Dayton Power & Light, a subsidiary of AES Corp. (AES), said in an emailed statement that it planned to close the J.M. Stuart and Killen plants by June 2018 because they would not be “economically viable beyond mid-2018.”

Coal demand has flagged in recent years due to competition from cheap and plentiful natural gas.
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Goodnight, everyone.
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https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... john-major" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Theresa May with her husband Philip: ‘Even the Daily Mail could only get mildly excited by the news in Vogue that Philip cooks a mean risotto.’
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http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style ... 42266.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Pope Francis issues social media warning: 'Don't be led astray by this false image of reality!'
The pontiff also advised young people to spend more time with their grandparents
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:lol:
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Councils warn housing shortfall and benefit cuts fuel rising homelessness
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