Monday 3rd April 2017

Post by **refitman** » Mon 03 Apr, 2017 7:10 am

Morning all.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Mon 03 Apr, 2017 7:38 am

Morning

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-39386587" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Homeless families rehoused out of London 'up five-fold'

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Mon 03 Apr, 2017 8:15 am

https://www.theguardian.com/film/2017/a ... CMP=twt_gu" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

‘Age is just a number’: Doris Day turns 95 – two years earlier than planned

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Mon 03 Apr, 2017 8:21 am

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HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Mon 03 Apr, 2017 9:06 am

http://policyinpractice.co.uk/two-child ... y-10-2020/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Two child limit to tax credits set to drive child poverty up by 10% by 2020

Policy in practice.

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Mon 03 Apr, 2017 9:16 am

Morning all.

Are we at war yet?

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Mon 03 Apr, 2017 9:22 am

Still at planning stage.National service/conscription moves afoot,including the creation of an elite wheelchair and oxygen cylindered battalion.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Mon 03 Apr, 2017 9:26 am

Dialysis enabled tank regiment.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Mon 03 Apr, 2017 9:28 am

Hospital bed helicopter corps.

Post by **adam** » Mon 03 Apr, 2017 9:29 am

HindleA wrote:Still at planning stage.National service/conscription moves afoot,including the creation of an elite wheelchair and oxygen cylindered battalion.

'We think this one could be a really explosive development'.

sorry.

StephenDolan · Post by **StephenDolan** » Mon 03 Apr, 2017 9:29 am

Blue passports. Bring out patriotic edition versions, £500 a pop.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Mon 03 Apr, 2017 9:46 am

RogerOThornhill wrote:Morning all.

Are we at war yet?

Even [Michael]Howard himself seems to have had second thoughts. On Channel 4 News last night, asked if he was “seriously suggesting” war with Spain, he replied: “Of course not.” But he did add: “I can see no harm in reminding them what kind of people we are.” (Politics Live, Guardian)

Personally, I'd keep quiet on that as much as possible.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Mon 03 Apr, 2017 9:47 am

Good morfternoon.

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Mon 03 Apr, 2017 10:46 am

HindleA wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/film/2017/a ... CMP=twt_gu

‘Age is just a number’: Doris Day turns 95 – two years earlier than planned

The earliest UK chart topper who is still alive. There's your bit of trivia for the day.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Mon 03 Apr, 2017 10:49 am

Good-morning, everyone
Thank you for being here

SpinningHugo · Post by **SpinningHugo** » Mon 03 Apr, 2017 10:52 am

Maguire on the unions

http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk ... byn-s-fate" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I think they've given up.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Mon 03 Apr, 2017 10:52 am

AnatolyKasparov wrote:
HindleA wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/film/2017/a ... CMP=twt_gu

‘Age is just a number’: Doris Day turns 95 – two years earlier than planned
The earliest UK chart topper who is still alive. There's your bit of trivia for the day.

Long ago, I read Day wanted to be a dancer but had an accident ending that ambition. She became an actor instead.

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Mon 03 Apr, 2017 10:53 am

Just as well there are some adults around to deal with this...

Spain tells UK not to lose its cool over Gibraltar in Brexit talks

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/ ... exit-talks

Spain has urged the British government to keep a cool head in the negotiations over the future of Gibraltar after the former Conservative leader Michael Howard suggested Theresa May would be prepared to go to war to protect the territory as Margaret Thatcher once did over the Falklands.

“Someone in the UK is losing their cool and there’s no need for it,” said Spain’s foreign minister, Alfonso Dastis.

While he noted that Howard “hadn’t exactly said” that the UK would go to war over the issue, Dastis added: “Making comparisons with past situations like the Falklands is a little out of context. The Spanish government is a little surprised by the tone of comments coming out of Britain, a country known for its composure.”

That was then, this is now. Brexit seems to have gone to some excitable people's heads

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Mon 03 Apr, 2017 10:56 am

SpinningHugo wrote:Maguire on the unions

http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk ... byn-s-fate" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I think they've given up.

You "think" lots of things

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Mon 03 Apr, 2017 10:57 am

citizenJA wrote:Long ago, I read Day wanted to be a dancer but had an accident ending that ambition. She became an actor instead.

Did she say "whatever will be, will be" when that happened?

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Mon 03 Apr, 2017 11:17 am

RogerOThornhill wrote:
citizenJA wrote:Long ago, I read Day wanted to be a dancer but had an accident ending that ambition. She became an actor instead.
Did she say "whatever will be, will be" when that happened?

Yep, in a language not English.

NonOxCol · Post by **NonOxCol** » Mon 03 Apr, 2017 11:25 am

Morning.

There is literally no-one on earth - not even Trump - whose death I would mourn less than this despicable piece of worthless shit:

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GetYou · Post by **GetYou** » Mon 03 Apr, 2017 12:00 pm

No 10 refuses to condemn Lord Howard - but does confirm UK won’t send taskforce to defend Gibraltar.

Quick Spain, now's your chance!

NonOxCol · Post by **NonOxCol** » Mon 03 Apr, 2017 12:07 pm

GetYou wrote:
No 10 refuses to condemn Lord Howard - but does confirm UK won’t send taskforce to defend Gibraltar.
Quick Spain, now's your chance!

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Just about sums up this wretched country and its even more appalling government right now.

Post by **adam** » Mon 03 Apr, 2017 12:09 pm

Having been told for years that the EU had nothing to do with keeping the peace in Europe, that was all down to NATO...

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Mon 03 Apr, 2017 12:14 pm

NonOxCol wrote:Morning.

There is literally no-one on earth - not even Trump - whose death I would mourn less than this despicable piece of worthless shit:

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Rod Liddle runs him close, tbh. As does a certain former Met Office admin worker.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Mon 03 Apr, 2017 12:14 pm

Isn't it time that we "Brits" did our patriotic duty and resurrected the practice of referring to Gibraltar as "Gib"? I'm surprised it's not happened already.

NonOxCol · Post by **NonOxCol** » Mon 03 Apr, 2017 12:15 pm

Thread summing up why I felt so angry it frightened me, for the whole of the weekend after the vote.

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Because the direction of travel was so stark staring obvious... and yet some of it has exceeded even my expectations.

NonOxCol · Post by **NonOxCol** » Mon 03 Apr, 2017 12:19 pm

AnatolyKasparov wrote:
NonOxCol wrote:Morning.

There is literally no-one on earth - not even Trump - whose death I would mourn less than this despicable piece of worthless shit:

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Rod Liddle runs him close, tbh. As does a certain former Met Office admin worker.

I just think he's had more direct influence than anyone (except perhaps his proprietor) on the development of the absolute worst aspects of this country over the last 3-4 decades. To see that foulness enjoying a sort of renaissance is way too much to stomach. In any properly civilised society he would be a total fucking pariah for Hillsborough alone. Instead we have Brexit, and a sort of vindication for his ilk.

gilsey · Post by **gilsey** » Mon 03 Apr, 2017 12:54 pm

I nearly retweeted McTernan there, thought better of it. What are things coming to?

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tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Mon 03 Apr, 2017 1:12 pm

https://www.theguardian.com/education/2 ... ar-bristol" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
'Banksy of punctuation' puts full stop to bad grammar in Bristol

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Mon 03 Apr, 2017 1:13 pm

The yahoos defending Howard's comments and Tory government's discomposed response are off their head

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Mon 03 Apr, 2017 1:14 pm

gilsey wrote:I nearly retweeted McTernan there, thought better of it. What are things coming to?

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Not just that, but he talked a lot of sense about Dan Jarvis the other day too.

Truly, we are in the End Times

Tubby Isaacs · Post by **Tubby Isaacs** » Mon 03 Apr, 2017 1:15 pm

SpinningHugo wrote:Maguire on the unions

http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk ... byn-s-fate" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I think they've given up.

Why does anybody have to "agree on a successor"? You have a contest and pick the best candidate. Same as always happens.

Mick Whelan is a Brexit bullshitter.

https://www.morningstaronline.co.uk/a-4 ... OI8U1XyvIU" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Complete rubbish.

Post by **adam** » Mon 03 Apr, 2017 1:25 pm

Good work below the line in the graun

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PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Mon 03 Apr, 2017 1:29 pm

There's been an explosion in the St Petersburg Metro. It's being reported that 10 people have been killed.

Post by **adam** » Mon 03 Apr, 2017 1:52 pm

The degree of quality of the politics and politicians in the United Kingdom is now at the level of Farage.

From a Spanish Liberal party MEP.

Tubby Isaacs · Post by **Tubby Isaacs** » Mon 03 Apr, 2017 1:56 pm

The Spanish Popular Party are pretty awful, but the Tories and Kippers make them look good.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Mon 03 Apr, 2017 2:06 pm

PorFavor wrote:There's been an explosion in the St Petersburg Metro. It's being reported that 10 people have been killed.

It's currently reported as an intentional act

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Mon 03 Apr, 2017 2:09 pm

I've not followed Russian current affairs very closely but I neglected to post this last week when I saw it reported. The images of Navalny getting hauled away disturb me.

Opposition leader Alexei Navalny detained amid protests across Russia

"Hundreds of protesters have been detained by riot police in cities across Russia, as some of the largest anti-government protests in years swept the country. The call to protest came from the opposition politician and anti-corruption campaigner Alexei Navalny, who was himself detained at the Moscow demonstration. A monitoring group said at least 850 people were detained in Moscow alone, while the news agency Tass gave a figure of 500. Police said about 7,000 people attended the Moscow rally on Sunday, though the real number may have been much higher."

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/ ... oss-russia" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Mon 03 Apr, 2017 2:13 pm

From last year...

Vote Leave‏Verified account
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The interests of the people of Gibraltar are best protected by a strong and independent UK #VoteLeave #InOrOut

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Mon 03 Apr, 2017 2:15 pm

The people of Gibraltar overwhelmingly disagreed with Vote Leave

Tubby Isaacs · Post by **Tubby Isaacs** » Mon 03 Apr, 2017 2:26 pm

Mike Holden‏
@MikeHolden42
Consider: No10 immediately slapped down the Chancellor & our Civil Servants when they said inconvenient truths about Brexit.

Tubby Isaacs · Post by **Tubby Isaacs** » Mon 03 Apr, 2017 2:27 pm

Greg Ó Ceallaigh‏
@gregoceallaigh
The UK is basically two news cycles from buying an open-top Porsche and a hair transplant.

Tubby Isaacs · Post by **Tubby Isaacs** » Mon 03 Apr, 2017 3:47 pm

As Jonathan Portes says, the Greens are talking lump of labour nonsense.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-39471102" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I think I'll stick with Labour, provided they can keep this sort of stuff at bay.

Apol to Citizen- I edited that after you thanked me! Sneaky.

Tubby Isaacs · Post by **Tubby Isaacs** » Mon 03 Apr, 2017 3:55 pm

Ah apol again- the Greens aren't saying that, the New Economics Forum people are.

Shit, aren't they close to McDonnell?

Tubby Isaacs · Post by **Tubby Isaacs** » Mon 03 Apr, 2017 5:04 pm

Paul Krugman‏Verified account @paulkrugman Apr 1
For future reference: NAFTA reduced barriers to US exports much more than barriers to Mexican exports

Well done, Bernie Sanders. You did great.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Mon 03 Apr, 2017 5:30 pm

https://www.gov.uk/government/organisat ... -committee" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Government response: SSAC report on decision making and mandatory reconsideration

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Mon 03 Apr, 2017 5:39 pm

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Why the ESA cut cannot be justified

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Mon 03 Apr, 2017 5:56 pm

This might be worth reading - haven't yet got round to working out Blue Labour.

Blue Labour, Social Democracy And Modernity

http://labourvision.org.uk/labour-visio ... modernity/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;