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Monday 3rd April 2017

Posted: Mon 03 Apr, 2017 7:10 am
by refitman
Morning all.

Re: Monday 3rd April 2017

Posted: Mon 03 Apr, 2017 7:38 am
by HindleA
Morning


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-39386587" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


Homeless families rehoused out of London 'up five-fold'

Re: Monday 3rd April 2017

Posted: Mon 03 Apr, 2017 8:15 am
by HindleA
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‘Age is just a number’: Doris Day turns 95 – two years earlier than planned

Re: Monday 3rd April 2017

Posted: Mon 03 Apr, 2017 8:21 am
by HindleA
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Re: Monday 3rd April 2017

Posted: Mon 03 Apr, 2017 9:06 am
by HindleA
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Two child limit to tax credits set to drive child poverty up by 10% by 2020


Policy in practice.

Re: Monday 3rd April 2017

Posted: Mon 03 Apr, 2017 9:16 am
by RogerOThornhill
Morning all.

Are we at war yet?

Re: Monday 3rd April 2017

Posted: Mon 03 Apr, 2017 9:22 am
by HindleA
Still at planning stage.National service/conscription moves afoot,including the creation of an elite wheelchair and oxygen cylindered battalion.

Re: Monday 3rd April 2017

Posted: Mon 03 Apr, 2017 9:26 am
by HindleA
Dialysis enabled tank regiment.

Re: Monday 3rd April 2017

Posted: Mon 03 Apr, 2017 9:28 am
by HindleA
Hospital bed helicopter corps.

Re: Monday 3rd April 2017

Posted: Mon 03 Apr, 2017 9:29 am
by adam
HindleA wrote:Still at planning stage.National service/conscription moves afoot,including the creation of an elite wheelchair and oxygen cylindered battalion.
'We think this one could be a really explosive development'.










sorry.

Re: Monday 3rd April 2017

Posted: Mon 03 Apr, 2017 9:29 am
by StephenDolan
Blue passports. Bring out patriotic edition versions, £500 a pop. :)

Re: Monday 3rd April 2017

Posted: Mon 03 Apr, 2017 9:46 am
by PorFavor
RogerOThornhill wrote:Morning all.

Are we at war yet?
Even [Michael]Howard himself seems to have had second thoughts. On Channel 4 News last night, asked if he was “seriously suggesting” war with Spain, he replied: “Of course not.” But he did add: “I can see no harm in reminding them what kind of people we are.” (Politics Live, Guardian)
Personally, I'd keep quiet on that as much as possible.

Re: Monday 3rd April 2017

Posted: Mon 03 Apr, 2017 9:47 am
by PorFavor
Good morfternoon.

Re: Monday 3rd April 2017

Posted: Mon 03 Apr, 2017 10:46 am
by AnatolyKasparov
HindleA wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/film/2017/a ... CMP=twt_gu


‘Age is just a number’: Doris Day turns 95 – two years earlier than planned
The earliest UK chart topper who is still alive. There's your bit of trivia for the day.

Re: Monday 3rd April 2017

Posted: Mon 03 Apr, 2017 10:49 am
by citizenJA
Good-morning, everyone
Thank you for being here

Re: Monday 3rd April 2017

Posted: Mon 03 Apr, 2017 10:52 am
by SpinningHugo
Maguire on the unions

http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk ... byn-s-fate" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I think they've given up.

Re: Monday 3rd April 2017

Posted: Mon 03 Apr, 2017 10:52 am
by citizenJA
AnatolyKasparov wrote:
HindleA wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/film/2017/a ... CMP=twt_gu


‘Age is just a number’: Doris Day turns 95 – two years earlier than planned
The earliest UK chart topper who is still alive. There's your bit of trivia for the day.
Long ago, I read Day wanted to be a dancer but had an accident ending that ambition. She became an actor instead.

Re: Monday 3rd April 2017

Posted: Mon 03 Apr, 2017 10:53 am
by RogerOThornhill
Just as well there are some adults around to deal with this...

Spain tells UK not to lose its cool over Gibraltar in Brexit talks

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/ ... exit-talks
Spain has urged the British government to keep a cool head in the negotiations over the future of Gibraltar after the former Conservative leader Michael Howard suggested Theresa May would be prepared to go to war to protect the territory as Margaret Thatcher once did over the Falklands.

“Someone in the UK is losing their cool and there’s no need for it,” said Spain’s foreign minister, Alfonso Dastis.

While he noted that Howard “hadn’t exactly said” that the UK would go to war over the issue, Dastis added: “Making comparisons with past situations like the Falklands is a little out of context. The Spanish government is a little surprised by the tone of comments coming out of Britain, a country known for its composure.”
That was then, this is now. Brexit seems to have gone to some excitable people's heads

Re: Monday 3rd April 2017

Posted: Mon 03 Apr, 2017 10:56 am
by AnatolyKasparov
SpinningHugo wrote:Maguire on the unions

http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk ... byn-s-fate" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I think they've given up.
You "think" lots of things ;)

Re: Monday 3rd April 2017

Posted: Mon 03 Apr, 2017 10:57 am
by RogerOThornhill
citizenJA wrote:Long ago, I read Day wanted to be a dancer but had an accident ending that ambition. She became an actor instead.
Did she say "whatever will be, will be" when that happened?

Re: Monday 3rd April 2017

Posted: Mon 03 Apr, 2017 11:17 am
by citizenJA
RogerOThornhill wrote:
citizenJA wrote:Long ago, I read Day wanted to be a dancer but had an accident ending that ambition. She became an actor instead.
Did she say "whatever will be, will be" when that happened?
Yep, in a language not English.

Re: Monday 3rd April 2017

Posted: Mon 03 Apr, 2017 11:25 am
by NonOxCol
Morning.

There is literally no-one on earth - not even Trump - whose death I would mourn less than this despicable piece of worthless shit:

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Re: Monday 3rd April 2017

Posted: Mon 03 Apr, 2017 12:00 pm
by GetYou
No 10 refuses to condemn Lord Howard - but does confirm UK won’t send taskforce to defend Gibraltar.
Quick Spain, now's your chance!

Re: Monday 3rd April 2017

Posted: Mon 03 Apr, 2017 12:07 pm
by NonOxCol
GetYou wrote:
No 10 refuses to condemn Lord Howard - but does confirm UK won’t send taskforce to defend Gibraltar.
Quick Spain, now's your chance!
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Just about sums up this wretched country and its even more appalling government right now.

Re: Monday 3rd April 2017

Posted: Mon 03 Apr, 2017 12:09 pm
by adam
Having been told for years that the EU had nothing to do with keeping the peace in Europe, that was all down to NATO...

Re: Monday 3rd April 2017

Posted: Mon 03 Apr, 2017 12:14 pm
by AnatolyKasparov
NonOxCol wrote:Morning.

There is literally no-one on earth - not even Trump - whose death I would mourn less than this despicable piece of worthless shit:

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Rod Liddle runs him close, tbh. As does a certain former Met Office admin worker.

Re: Monday 3rd April 2017

Posted: Mon 03 Apr, 2017 12:14 pm
by PorFavor
Isn't it time that we "Brits" did our patriotic duty and resurrected the practice of referring to Gibraltar as "Gib"? I'm surprised it's not happened already.

Re: Monday 3rd April 2017

Posted: Mon 03 Apr, 2017 12:15 pm
by NonOxCol
Thread summing up why I felt so angry it frightened me, for the whole of the weekend after the vote.

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Because the direction of travel was so stark staring obvious... and yet some of it has exceeded even my expectations.

Re: Monday 3rd April 2017

Posted: Mon 03 Apr, 2017 12:19 pm
by NonOxCol
AnatolyKasparov wrote:
NonOxCol wrote:Morning.

There is literally no-one on earth - not even Trump - whose death I would mourn less than this despicable piece of worthless shit:

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Rod Liddle runs him close, tbh. As does a certain former Met Office admin worker.
I just think he's had more direct influence than anyone (except perhaps his proprietor) on the development of the absolute worst aspects of this country over the last 3-4 decades. To see that foulness enjoying a sort of renaissance is way too much to stomach. In any properly civilised society he would be a total fucking pariah for Hillsborough alone. Instead we have Brexit, and a sort of vindication for his ilk.

Re: Monday 3rd April 2017

Posted: Mon 03 Apr, 2017 12:54 pm
by gilsey
I nearly retweeted McTernan there, thought better of it. What are things coming to?

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Re: Monday 3rd April 2017

Posted: Mon 03 Apr, 2017 1:12 pm
by tinyclanger2
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'Banksy of punctuation' puts full stop to bad grammar in Bristol

Re: Monday 3rd April 2017

Posted: Mon 03 Apr, 2017 1:13 pm
by citizenJA
The yahoos defending Howard's comments and Tory government's discomposed response are off their head

Re: Monday 3rd April 2017

Posted: Mon 03 Apr, 2017 1:14 pm
by AnatolyKasparov
gilsey wrote:I nearly retweeted McTernan there, thought better of it. What are things coming to?

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Not just that, but he talked a lot of sense about Dan Jarvis the other day too.

Truly, we are in the End Times :)

Re: Monday 3rd April 2017

Posted: Mon 03 Apr, 2017 1:15 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
SpinningHugo wrote:Maguire on the unions

http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk ... byn-s-fate" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I think they've given up.
Why does anybody have to "agree on a successor"? You have a contest and pick the best candidate. Same as always happens.

Mick Whelan is a Brexit bullshitter.

https://www.morningstaronline.co.uk/a-4 ... OI8U1XyvIU" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Complete rubbish.

Re: Monday 3rd April 2017

Posted: Mon 03 Apr, 2017 1:25 pm
by adam
Good work below the line in the graun
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Re: Monday 3rd April 2017

Posted: Mon 03 Apr, 2017 1:29 pm
by PorFavor
There's been an explosion in the St Petersburg Metro. It's being reported that 10 people have been killed.

Re: Monday 3rd April 2017

Posted: Mon 03 Apr, 2017 1:52 pm
by adam
The degree of quality of the politics and politicians in the United Kingdom is now at the level of Farage.
From a Spanish Liberal party MEP.

Re: Monday 3rd April 2017

Posted: Mon 03 Apr, 2017 1:56 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
The Spanish Popular Party are pretty awful, but the Tories and Kippers make them look good.

Re: Monday 3rd April 2017

Posted: Mon 03 Apr, 2017 2:06 pm
by citizenJA
PorFavor wrote:There's been an explosion in the St Petersburg Metro. It's being reported that 10 people have been killed.
It's currently reported as an intentional act

Re: Monday 3rd April 2017

Posted: Mon 03 Apr, 2017 2:09 pm
by citizenJA
I've not followed Russian current affairs very closely but I neglected to post this last week when I saw it reported. The images of Navalny getting hauled away disturb me.
Opposition leader Alexei Navalny detained amid protests across Russia

"Hundreds of protesters have been detained by riot police in cities across Russia, as some of the largest anti-government protests in years swept the country. The call to protest came from the opposition politician and anti-corruption campaigner Alexei Navalny, who was himself detained at the Moscow demonstration. A monitoring group said at least 850 people were detained in Moscow alone, while the news agency Tass gave a figure of 500. Police said about 7,000 people attended the Moscow rally on Sunday, though the real number may have been much higher."

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/ ... oss-russia" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Monday 3rd April 2017

Posted: Mon 03 Apr, 2017 2:13 pm
by RogerOThornhill
From last year...
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The interests of the people of Gibraltar are best protected by a strong and independent UK #VoteLeave #InOrOut
:D

Re: Monday 3rd April 2017

Posted: Mon 03 Apr, 2017 2:15 pm
by citizenJA
The people of Gibraltar overwhelmingly disagreed with Vote Leave

Re: Monday 3rd April 2017

Posted: Mon 03 Apr, 2017 2:26 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Mike Holden‏
@MikeHolden42
Consider: No10 immediately slapped down the Chancellor & our Civil Servants when they said inconvenient truths about Brexit.

Re: Monday 3rd April 2017

Posted: Mon 03 Apr, 2017 2:27 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Greg Ó Ceallaigh‏
@gregoceallaigh
The UK is basically two news cycles from buying an open-top Porsche and a hair transplant.

Re: Monday 3rd April 2017

Posted: Mon 03 Apr, 2017 3:47 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
As Jonathan Portes says, the Greens are talking lump of labour nonsense.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-39471102" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I think I'll stick with Labour, provided they can keep this sort of stuff at bay.

Apol to Citizen- I edited that after you thanked me! Sneaky.

Re: Monday 3rd April 2017

Posted: Mon 03 Apr, 2017 3:55 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Ah apol again- the Greens aren't saying that, the New Economics Forum people are.

Shit, aren't they close to McDonnell?

Re: Monday 3rd April 2017

Posted: Mon 03 Apr, 2017 5:04 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
Paul Krugman‏Verified account @paulkrugman Apr 1
For future reference: NAFTA reduced barriers to US exports much more than barriers to Mexican exports
Well done, Bernie Sanders. You did great.

Re: Monday 3rd April 2017

Posted: Mon 03 Apr, 2017 5:30 pm
by HindleA
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Government response: SSAC report on decision making and mandatory reconsideration

Re: Monday 3rd April 2017

Posted: Mon 03 Apr, 2017 5:39 pm
by HindleA
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Why the ESA cut cannot be justified

Re: Monday 3rd April 2017

Posted: Mon 03 Apr, 2017 5:56 pm
by RogerOThornhill
This might be worth reading - haven't yet got round to working out Blue Labour.

Blue Labour, Social Democracy And Modernity

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