Tuesday 4th April 2017

[tinyclanger2]

Well, you are all happy with Brexit and knocking Corbyn, while the true nature of what is happening behind the statistics seems to escape you, even though a stream of excellent posts on the things that are damaging real humans in our country seem to pass you by. I assume from the lack of interest in even discussing such things except in the terms your heavenly twins set that I am in fact persona non grata here, in spite of having been an early member of this site. And in truth I never regarded this as a matter of war, but only of reinhabiting a space lost.

I will admit to not being a 'detail' person, preferring to observe the wood rather than a single tree. But to all those looking at and for statistics rather than people to verify what is happening to us all, I suggest that you look for pieces that explore the articles that recount the ONS difficulties with lack of statistics that should be provided by government, and the frustration of statisticians. I also recommend a visit to the wholly bizarre populist end of the ONS where statistics on everything unuseful and unusable for anything other than amusement can be found.

If I can locate it I wiil post one such frustrated statisticians piece on this subject. If not I will probably stay away until such time as your new leaders provoke me into speaking again.

Brexit has unleashed hatred and division. To me this is imperative; to others not. That's OK. Many issues are important, but to different people in different measure.

[HindleA]

And next year,a targeted removal from those that must have worked.

[tinyclanger2]

... are.

[HindleA]

A bit tired today,been helping next door neighbour with garden which involved a lot of digging,lifting large boulders etc.My terms of hourly fag/tea infusion and home made curry were met.Second day of three.

[Tubby Isaacs]

Depends on what you mean by targeted pension changes,I with no dependents,responsibilities,restrictions etc,would have gained,the vast majority have had theirs gutted.Bereavement pensions are contingent on sufficient NIC on a sliding scale/age of survivor,at least a recognition of decades of contribution-in our case sufficient for a full State pension was acknowledged,despite the propaganda Governments,and particularly Tory ones don't give a stuff about contributions and will limit,deny effect.as appropriate on political machinations.

Targeted stuff that raises the incomes of the poorest. 14% are in poverty.

[Tubby Isaacs]

From the IFS

https://www.ifs.org.uk/publications/8942" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

This increased benefit to pensioners came at the cost of an increase in spending of roughly £6 billion a year in 2015–16 compared with earnings indexation, and roughly £4 billion relative to CPI indexation, over the period since April 2011.

That's a lot of money. Corners are being cut to make it more affordable- not least from services like social care for pensioners.

[Tubby Isaacs]

Did we have this?

No signed 'future' Brexit deal within two years, says Theresa May
The UK will adopt 'third party status' in order to conduct trade negotiations after the two-year Article 50 process, says the PM.

http://news.sky.com/story/no-signed-fut ... y-10824347" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

"I'm clear that by the point at which we leave the EU, it's right that everyone will know what the future arrangement, relationship, partnership between us and EU will be. That's the sensible thing, it's a pragmatic way to look at it."

It is that outline of a future arrangement which will be done in two years, not a signed deal.

This sounds like a bit of a change.

[HindleA]

@Tubby to be read ironically as alternative definition of targeting,I would have happened to have gained whilst those needing it more and harder to adjust (the vast majority) lose out and pointing out the NIC contingency thing and further shredding of contributory effect-which is one of my many gripes,not least because the pretence is otherwise.

[Tubby Isaacs]

Marine in English @Marine2017_EN
Smart #protectionism is not about taxing anything and everything, it's clever protectionism concerning effective targets.

Christ, she's shit. I don't know why she doesn't just stick to the racism.

[Tubby Isaacs]

@Tubby to be read ironically as alternative definition of targeting,I would have happened to have gained whilst those needing it more and harder to adjust (the vast majority) lose out and pointing out the NIC contingency thing and further shredding of contributory effect-which is one of my many gripes,not least because the pretence is otherwise.

Don't look at me, I'm buying my contributions!

[gilsey]

Well, you are all happy with Brexit

There was me thinking it made a nice change to have (most of) a day here without remoaning!

Here's a great rant on the subject and I'd guess most of us agree with it. Apologies if we've had it before.
Triggering Article 50: A bleak and bitter day for our country
http://chrisgreybrexitblog.blogspot.co. ... itter.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

[HindleA]

@Tubby Excuse my garbled waffling.It made sense in my head,something goes awry on posting.

[HindleA]

As ever

[HindleA]

I was economically inactive=Full time carer and in work.


Stats-eh?

[gilsey]

From the IFS

https://www.ifs.org.uk/publications/8942" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

This increased benefit to pensioners came at the cost of an increase in spending of roughly £6 billion a year in 2015–16 compared with earnings indexation, and roughly £4 billion relative to CPI indexation, over the period since April 2011.

That's a lot of money. Corners are being cut to make it more affordable- not least from services like social care for pensioners.

I think you're stretching it a bit to link elderly social care with the triple lock. Tories have chosen to cut the one and stick with the other for entirely separate reasons imo.

Triple lock's surely irrelevant for the next couple of years at least, inflation will be >2.5% due to the fall in sterling?

[HindleA]

SH.As I restate no serious person of good faith.

[TechnicalEphemera]

This is not good

http://labourlist.org/2017/04/ken-livin ... ther-year/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

You can say that again.

According to Ken he didn't say Hitler was a Zionist.

He said Hitler supported Zionists.

Which for some reason is supposed to be ok.

Plus it was all a plot by Zionist Labour MPs and The Jewish Chronical.

After the verdict he said, to the media, he apologised for the offence Labour MPs caused by claiming he said Hitler was a Zionist when he actually said etc etc....

But apparently peddling anti semitic bullshit is fine in Corbyn's Labour Party.

So Ken - Hitler - Livingstone will be back.

In other news, Corbyn makes a basic factual error on life expectancy, thus derailing his entire speech, and Labour are 20 points behind a mid term, second term utterly shit government.

To quote the great Ed Miliband - Omnishambles.

[TechnicalEphemera]

Did we have this?

No signed 'future' Brexit deal within two years, says Theresa May
The UK will adopt 'third party status' in order to conduct trade negotiations after the two-year Article 50 process, says the PM.

http://news.sky.com/story/no-signed-fut ... y-10824347" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

"I'm clear that by the point at which we leave the EU, it's right that everyone will know what the future arrangement, relationship, partnership between us and EU will be. That's the sensible thing, it's a pragmatic way to look at it."

It is that outline of a future arrangement which will be done in two years, not a signed deal.

This sounds like a bit of a change.

A bit of a change, in the same way Pompeii was a minor geological incident.

Maybe Fox stating common values with an alleged murderer (in return for a vague sniff of trade) is finally bringing reality home to her.

[HindleA]

They've redefined CLP?

[HindleA]

May and her Ministers,continuing on from the previous maladministration repeatedly and knowingly lies in the Commons.

[PaulfromYorkshire]

May and her Ministers,continuing on from the previous maladministration repeatedly and knowingly lies in the Commons.

Indeed. Indeed. Indeed.

[HindleA]

Not sure if my grammar and sentence construction is correct I am sure that is of great diversionary import.

[TechnicalEphemera]

To quote the great Ed Miliband - Omnishambles.

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Which minor mistake, not basic fact checking or allowing Livingstone to carry on, or being 20 points behind in the polls?

[RogerOThornhill]

violent snowflake‏
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so WE'RE generation snowflake but just this week generations above us have been "humiliated" by "pink" passports & are upset by "egg hunt"

Well quite.

[PaulfromYorkshire]

To quote the great Ed Miliband - Omnishambles.

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Which minor mistake, not basic fact checking or allowing Livingstone to carry on, or being 20 points behind in the polls?

Good night.

[HindleA]

UN CRDP.

Link to

List of Issues in relation to initial report of U.K.


http://tbinternet.ohchr.org/_layouts/tr ... /1&Lang=en" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


Edited to put in the missing link.

[HindleA]

Read that as " anti semiotic bullshit"


A sign to go to bed.

[HindleA]

https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 ... port-warns" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


Public health cuts will lead to more sick people, report warns


Terrible grammar