Saturday 29th April, Sunday 30th April & Monday 1st May 2017

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Mon 01 May, 2017 3:11 pm

@pressureuk
I've come upon your post not long ago
I'm sorry
The duty of leadership is stopping exploitation, theft and lies, not promoting it
The stories we get told aren't accurate
Money and power are made and maintained selling dishonest stories

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Mon 01 May, 2017 3:50 pm

AnatolyKasparov wrote:Everybody enjoying the sunny weather then, I assume?

It went cloudy here just a few minutes ago.......

What sunny weather?

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Mon 01 May, 2017 5:32 pm

So Theresa May dismisses the leak about that dinner as "Brussels gossip"...

Chris Cook‏Verified account @xtophercook 12m12 minutes ago
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Chris Cook Retweeted BBC News (UK)
"Brussels gossip" is a v odd way to deny the truth of an account of an event where you were present.

Quite. Either it's true or it isn't.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Mon 01 May, 2017 5:42 pm

PorFavor wrote:
AnatolyKasparov wrote:Everybody enjoying the sunny weather then, I assume?

It went cloudy here just a few minutes ago.......
What sunny weather?

West Midlands, here, sun comes out then retreats
Days are getting longer so I can see the changing sky for hours during daytime
I'm not able to see many stars in the sky, even when it's clear
that's a sad thing, 'light pollution', I think it's called

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Mon 01 May, 2017 5:52 pm

Excellent news - the man's an embarrassment

Labour bans Rochdale MP Simon Danczuk from standing in election

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... n-election

And that stuff about his ex standing was a pile of nonsense too.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Mon 01 May, 2017 5:56 pm

'I do assure you, I am not in a different galaxy, not at all, not even slightly out of this galaxy but completely, strongly, stably in this galaxy. Yes. This galaxy means this galaxy.'

- T May

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Mon 01 May, 2017 6:01 pm

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/ ... cs-records" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Paula Radcliffe and Jonathan Edwards set to lose world records after rules tweak

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Mon 01 May, 2017 6:01 pm

RogerOThornhill wrote:So Theresa May dismisses the leak about that dinner as "Brussels gossip"...

Chris Cook‏Verified account @xtophercook 12m12 minutes ago
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Chris Cook Retweeted BBC News (UK)
"Brussels gossip" is a v odd way to deny the truth of an account of an event where you were present.
Quite. Either it's true or it isn't.

I know Brussels have an unfortunate effect on some people, but I've never heard it called that before.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Mon 01 May, 2017 6:03 pm

Good morfternoon.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Mon 01 May, 2017 6:10 pm

Theresa May asking who I'd rather have doing the EU negotiations - her or Jeremy Corbyn.

Well actually, Theresa May, since you ask . . .

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Mon 01 May, 2017 6:55 pm

PorFavor wrote:Theresa May asking who I'd rather have doing the EU negotiations - her or Jeremy Corbyn.

Well actually, Theresa May, since you ask . . .

Yes, Corbyn is my preference
Everything coming out of Tory government is lunacy
Tory government aren't working out at all

howsillyofme1 · Post by **howsillyofme1** » Mon 01 May, 2017 6:56 pm

Evening

Is 'Brussels gossip' the same as 'Ugandan discussions'?

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Mon 01 May, 2017 7:02 pm

howsillyofme1 wrote:Evening

Is 'Brussels gossip' the same as 'Ugandan discussions'?

Can't quite imagine Theresa May as the Downing Street Cynthia Payne, somehow!

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Mon 01 May, 2017 7:31 pm

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2017/ ... -headlines" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The stories that won’t make headlines in George Osborne’s Evening Standard
Homelessness, food banks, child poverty, knife crime … How can the Standard report on the problems facing London when they are rooted in decisions taken by its new editor?

SpinningHugo · Post by **SpinningHugo** » Mon 01 May, 2017 8:15 pm

refitman wrote:
AnatolyKasparov wrote:This weekends polls vary in the Tory lead (between 11 and 19 points) but are all consistent in showing a definite Labour uptick.

The prediction a certain regular here made the other day of under 20% of the vote and less than 100 MPs is not looking terribly clever AT THE MOMENT.......
It is odd that Hugo hasn't popped up to show us the polls.

Been away.

As there is now suspicion if I don't post them, I'll be sure to keep doing so from now on.

I'd expect a swing towards Labour, until the last week when there'll be a sharp swing away.

Usually campaigns don't change much.

Who has predicted under 20% and fewer than 100 seats? Nobody I know of. Sounds like an all too common strawman argument, from a certain regular.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Mon 01 May, 2017 8:15 pm

I'm concerned people are currently frightened, anxious, confused and poorly informed. Not voting or voting for the status quo wouldn't be irrational under the circumstances. I think continued Tory government would be disastrous for people and country. I'll do what I can to encourage others to vote Tory government out.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Mon 01 May, 2017 8:16 pm

oh, hi SpinningHugo

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Mon 01 May, 2017 8:16 pm

Guy Verhofstadt‏Verified account
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Any #Brexit deal requires a strong & stable understanding of the complex issues involved.The clock is ticking - it's time to get real.

Oof!

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Mon 01 May, 2017 9:15 pm

The Donaeld:

Donaeld The Unready‏ @donaeldunready 3h3 hours ago

Feast with Holy Roman Empire chiefs total disaster for Mayden Theresa. Not a single one poisoned or strangled in corridor. Bad organisation.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Mon 01 May, 2017 9:19 pm

#strongandstable

The Sanity Clause ❄‏ @StephenCarter2 Apr 28

PM, what is the capital of France?
A. #StrongAndStable
B. Stable & Strong
C. Corbyn smells
D. Immigrants
..Sorry I'm not taking questions

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Mon 01 May, 2017 9:24 pm

Not one of mine (as is clear from the 'quality')

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PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Mon 01 May, 2017 9:25 pm

SpinningHugo wrote:
refitman wrote:
AnatolyKasparov wrote:This weekends polls vary in the Tory lead (between 11 and 19 points) but are all consistent in showing a definite Labour uptick.

The prediction a certain regular here made the other day of under 20% of the vote and less than 100 MPs is not looking terribly clever AT THE MOMENT.......
It is odd that Hugo hasn't popped up to show us the polls.

Been away.

Somewhere the Black-eyed Susans Don't Grow?

("Been away" was a euphemism in the circles I originally came from.) Glad you're not ill, though.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Mon 01 May, 2017 9:26 pm

PorFavor wrote:
RogerOThornhill wrote:So Theresa May dismisses the leak about that dinner as "Brussels gossip"...

Chris Cook‏Verified account @xtophercook 12m12 minutes ago
More
Chris Cook Retweeted BBC News (UK)
"Brussels gossip" is a v odd way to deny the truth of an account of an event where you were present.
Quite. Either it's true or it isn't.
I know Brussels have an unfortunate effect on some people, but I've never heard it called that before.

PorFavor!

howsillyofme1 · Post by **howsillyofme1** » Mon 01 May, 2017 9:34 pm

SpinningHugo wrote:
refitman wrote:
AnatolyKasparov wrote:This weekends polls vary in the Tory lead (between 11 and 19 points) but are all consistent in showing a definite Labour uptick.

The prediction a certain regular here made the other day of under 20% of the vote and less than 100 MPs is not looking terribly clever AT THE MOMENT.......
It is odd that Hugo hasn't popped up to show us the polls.

Been away.

As there is now suspicion if I don't post them, I'll be sure to keep doing so from now on.

I'd expect a swing towards Labour, until the last week when there'll be a sharp swing away.

Usually campaigns don't change much.

Who has predicted under 20% and fewer than 100 seats? Nobody I know of. Sounds like an all too common strawman argument, from a certain regular.

Which certain regular are you referring to?

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Mon 01 May, 2017 9:35 pm

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... are_btn_tw" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Martin Rowson on the Conservative party

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Mon 01 May, 2017 9:37 pm

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/edi ... 11766.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
According to these accounts, and public remarks by the German Chancellor Angela Merkel, the British Government is entirely deluded about what to expect from the talks. Ms May is labouring under the illusion that she has bargaining power and that that power will be greatly enhanced if she wins a landslide victory in her unnecessary and premature general election. That is a blunder almost as historic as David Cameron's when he pledged an in/out referendum. It will lead to national disaster.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Mon 01 May, 2017 9:46 pm

http://linkis.com/www.youtube.com/xsYxo" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Mon 01 May, 2017 9:47 pm

http://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top-sto ... -1-4994534" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
To adapt the classic quote from Pirsig, who died this week: “When one person suffers from a delusion, it is called insanity. When an entire government suffers from a delusion it is called Hard Brexit.”

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Mon 01 May, 2017 9:51 pm

tinyclanger2 wrote:http://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top-sto ... -1-4994534
To adapt the classic quote from Pirsig, who died this week: “When one person suffers from a delusion, it is called insanity. When an entire government suffers from a delusion it is called Hard Brexit.”

I had to look him up. Now I feel stupid.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Mon 01 May, 2017 9:53 pm

I wouldn't.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Mon 01 May, 2017 9:53 pm

(feel stupid, that is)

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Mon 01 May, 2017 9:57 pm

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... are_btn_tw" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I fear Theresa May is negotiating us all towards Brexit disaster
Keir Starmer

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Mon 01 May, 2017 10:05 pm

The prime minister’s complacent (strong) and rigid (stable) attitude is isolating Britain, and increasing the possibility that we will crash out without a deal

some good taking apart of the SS thing going on in general.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Mon 01 May, 2017 10:13 pm

Tom Watson labels Boris Johnson a 'cheese-headed fopdoodle' (Guardian)

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... -fopdoodle

Edited to add - I don't feel that Tom Watson has the right voice for an effective delivery - although I'm quite taken with the words themselves.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Mon 01 May, 2017 10:30 pm

tinyclanger2 wrote:http://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top-sto ... -1-4994534
To adapt the classic quote from Pirsig, who died this week: “When one person suffers from a delusion, it is called insanity. When an entire government suffers from a delusion it is called Hard Brexit.”

The March of Folly
Happens throughout history
a horror film knowing something god-awful occurs in the next scene

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Mon 01 May, 2017 10:32 pm

TE predicted that on Friday night, SH. He makes you seem like an optimist

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Mon 01 May, 2017 10:32 pm

vote but don't vote Tory or UKIP

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Mon 01 May, 2017 10:51 pm

Well I never...

In praise of Jeremy Corbyn’s campaign

https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2017/05/i ... campaign/#

And love him or hate him, there’s no denying that Corbyn has taken the snap election announcement in his stride. In the past couple of weeks, he has been to Aviemore to champion the unions and a £10 minimum wage, to Cardiff to attack ‘cosy’ tax rates, and to Harlow to promise the construction of a million new homes in 5 years. Meanwhile Theresa May has been on a carefully controlled tour of target seats, executed with submarine-like stealth. The stage management became palpable when she was caught on camera saying ‘I’m pleased to come to… err… this particular town…’, suggesting that she didn’t know where exactly she was.

SpinningHugo · Post by **SpinningHugo** » Mon 01 May, 2017 11:07 pm

AnatolyKasparov wrote:TE predicted that on Friday night, SH. He makes you seem like an optimist

If so, I think that is ridiculous.

Labour's vote share should hold up reasonably well. 28% or so at a guess. In seat terms it will be less happy as the Ukips vote switching Tory will hurt in terms of seats. An increased Tory majority, but talk of Labour meltdown is ridiculous.

Why?

Because on the substance Labour is correct.

If it weren't led by a clown, Labour might win. but if that were the case, there would be no election.

UK politics is utterly ridiculous.

And my Black eyed susans are doing fine. Close to the house for now, to guard against frost. I bought 3 colours, £2.29 each from Lidl. I tremendous success last year, and so fingers crossed.

My dahlia bulbs are now looking quite good too, as are my sweet pea seedlings,, so I hope the weather gets a bit warmer soon.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Tue 02 May, 2017 12:46 am

https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 ... CMP=twt_gu" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Schools cutting mental health services to plug funding gaps, warn MPs

https://www.parliament.uk/business/comm ... lth-16-17/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Tue 02 May, 2017 12:51 am

http://www.msn.com/en-sg/news/world/mal ... Mh?ocid=st" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Malta's scandal-hit PM calls snap elections for June 3

tinybgoat · Post by **tinybgoat** » Tue 02 May, 2017 1:42 am

"The first rail freight service from the UK to China has completed its 7,500-mile journey."

http://www.msn.com/en-sg/news/world/fir ... ar-BBAAOuo" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

After leaving London the bright red train passed through seven countries -- France, Belgium, Germany, Poland, Belarus, Russia and Kazakhstan -- before arriving in Yiwu at about 9.30am local time on Saturday.
For Britain, the train is part of an effort to strengthen trade links with the rest of the world as it prepares to leave the European Union in two years' time.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Tue 02 May, 2017 2:24 am

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... are_btn_tw" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Universal credit doesn’t reward hard work. It makes the most vulnerable pay
Eve Livingston

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Tue 02 May, 2017 2:29 am

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... g#comments" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The government must not force me and other disabled people out of our homes