Wednesday 3rd May 2017

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Wed 03 May, 2017 8:12 pm

#RescueLenny

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Wed 03 May, 2017 8:19 pm

Yours for a pony:

PorFavor wrote:I can only assume that Theresa May has something sinister in line for us all. She's likely (certain, we're led to believe) to win some sort of reasonable majority so why this appeal to voters via this "evil foreigners\plucky Brits" crap? She obviously wants an enormous majority for reasons I don't like to guess at. The size of the majority is obviously more important to her than keeping good (or even goodish) relations with the EU which, after all, she'll have to continue "negotiating" with (should she win in June), General Election notwithstanding.

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tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Wed 03 May, 2017 8:24 pm

Maybe Lenny's gone off to deal with this lot:

https://www.theguardian.com/law/2017/ma ... lord-judge" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
The “legislative tsunami” unleashed by Brexit will deliver the “greatest challenge” in history to the integrity of parliament’s procedures, a former lord chief justice has said.
Lord Judge raised his concerns that by the time Brexit is completed and the “great repeal bill” enacted, MPs and peers will have effectively given away their powers to pass laws.
Speaking at the Bingham Centre in London, the former judge said parliament was failing to scrutinise legislation in detail.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Wed 03 May, 2017 8:31 pm

I've been refreshing page 2 for ages. Nobody told me . . .

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Wed 03 May, 2017 8:34 pm

tinyclanger2 wrote:Yours for a pony:

PorFavor wrote:I can only assume that Theresa May has something sinister in line for us all. She's likely (certain, we're led to believe) to win some sort of reasonable majority so why this appeal to voters via this "evil foreigners\plucky Brits" crap? She obviously wants an enormous majority for reasons I don't like to guess at. The size of the majority is obviously more important to her than keeping good (or even goodish) relations with the EU which, after all, she'll have to continue "negotiating" with (should she win in June), General Election notwithstanding.
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It even had brackets!

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Wed 03 May, 2017 8:37 pm

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/ ... CMP=twt_gu" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

French election: Emmanuel Macron and Marine Le Pen face off in TV debate – live

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Wed 03 May, 2017 8:38 pm

@Ephemerid
Wonderful to read your post.
I love & miss you.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Wed 03 May, 2017 8:39 pm

PorFavor wrote:I've been refreshing page 2 for ages. Nobody told me . . .

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Wed 03 May, 2017 9:10 pm

https://stv.tv/news/politics/1387400-ru ... ick-a-box/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Ruth Davidson on rape clause: All they do is tick a box

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Wed 03 May, 2017 9:22 pm

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/yvette- ... 07580.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Theresa May’s Attack On The EU Is Not A Stable Or Strong Thing For A Prime Minister To Do

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Wed 03 May, 2017 9:29 pm

HindleA wrote:http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/yvette- ... 07580.html

Theresa May’s Attack On The EU Is Not A Stable Or Strong Thing For A Prime Minister To Do

Their's? It was going quite well up to that point.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Wed 03 May, 2017 9:33 pm

PorFavor wrote:
tinyclanger2 wrote:Yours for a pony:

PorFavor wrote:I can only assume that Theresa May has something sinister in line for us all. She's likely (certain, we're led to believe) to win some sort of reasonable majority so why this appeal to voters via this "evil foreigners\plucky Brits" crap? She obviously wants an enormous majority for reasons I don't like to guess at. The size of the majority is obviously more important to her than keeping good (or even goodish) relations with the EU which, after all, she'll have to continue "negotiating" with (should she win in June), General Election notwithstanding.
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It even had brackets!

Exceptional.

TechnicalEphemera · Post by **TechnicalEphemera** » Wed 03 May, 2017 9:35 pm

HindleA wrote:https://stv.tv/news/politics/1387400-ru ... ick-a-box/

Ruth Davidson on rape clause: All they do is tick a box

Shocking, maybe one day she will see what a gigantic arse she is being.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Wed 03 May, 2017 9:35 pm

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/b ... d-10350489" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Malcolm Baker confronting Tim Farron (inset) and impersonating Elvis (left)

TechnicalEphemera · Post by **TechnicalEphemera** » Wed 03 May, 2017 9:41 pm

AK, not everybody who regards Corbyn as a Tory enabling disaster with dubious morals is a Blairite. Many of us were delighted with Ed Miliband as leader, and similarly Kinnock and Smith. You may refer to us as centre left.

Sure we were happy with Blair 97-2005+, who wouldn't be. We were in power and changing things for the better. Brown was also ok by me, history will be kinder to him than the current media.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Wed 03 May, 2017 9:47 pm

French election: Emmanuel Macron and Marine Le Pen face off in TV debate – live

Centrist Emmanuel Macron and Marine Le Pen, of the far-right Front National, go head to head before Sunday’s decisive second-round vote to choose France’s next president
(Guardian)

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/ ... e-coverage

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Wed 03 May, 2017 9:54 pm

Night night.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Wed 03 May, 2017 9:57 pm

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/the ... 16166.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
True, she may be consciously following the Donald Trump playbook instead. That dictates that, when in a tight corner, you calculatedly attack the media or make up some half-baked conspiracy theory to distract everyone from some gaffe policy flop of your own. In this case it would be the failure of the Brexit talks before they’ve even started, and a ridiculed idea for social care vouchers.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Wed 03 May, 2017 10:08 pm

They are obsessed with vouchers,many have used them,particularly luncheon for other purposes.

TechnicalEphemera · Post by **TechnicalEphemera** » Wed 03 May, 2017 10:09 pm

tinyclanger2 wrote:http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/the ... 16166.html
True, she may be consciously following the Donald Trump playbook instead. That dictates that, when in a tight corner, you calculatedly attack the media or make up some half-baked conspiracy theory to distract everyone from some gaffe policy flop of your own. In this case it would be the failure of the Brexit talks before they’ve even started, and a ridiculed idea for social care vouchers.

But she isn't in a tight corner, she is romping home with a bigger than 97 landslide.

Which makes this even more bonkers and worrying.

There is no credible solution for a hard Brexit that doesn't crash the economy for a decade, and may induce the sort of economic shock that results in widespread violence and some killing.

Which means she can't afford to go there, in which case this isn't helping. Or more worryingly she is happy to trash the country and hold power by kicking the shit out of the plebs.

Eric_WLothian · Post by **Eric_WLothian** » Wed 03 May, 2017 10:18 pm

TechnicalEphemera wrote:
HindleA wrote:https://stv.tv/news/politics/1387400-ru ... ick-a-box/

Ruth Davidson on rape clause: All they do is tick a box
Shocking, maybe one day she will see what a gigantic arse she is being.

I'm not defending Ruth Davidson but imo the SNP (who have been going on about this for weeks) are fighting the wrong battle. The problem is the benefits cap, not the exception for rape cases.
It's also worth remembering that Holyrood has the power to pay benefits for the third and subsequent children. The SNP choose to air a grievance rather than negate it.

From today, [September 2016] the Scottish Parliament assumes powers to:
•Create new benefits in devolved areas.
•Top up reserved benefits (such Universal Credit, Tax Credits and Child Benefit).
•Make discretionary payments and assistance.
•Change employment support.
•Make changes to Universal Credit for the costs of rented accommodation.
•Make changes to Universal Credit on the timing of payments and recipients.

In addition, from 1 April next year, the Scottish Parliament will take on the power to make discretionary housing payments. Other welfare powers (including responsibility for carers and disability benefits, maternity payments and funeral payments) will transfer at a later date.

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/new- ... parliament" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

SpinningHugo · Post by **SpinningHugo** » Wed 03 May, 2017 10:31 pm

Westminster voting intention:

CON: 48% (+2)
LAB: 24% (-)
LDEM: 11% (-)
UKIP: 7% (-1)

(via @TNS_UK / 27 Apr - 02 May)

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Wed 03 May, 2017 10:31 pm

https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 ... are_btn_tw" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

NHS annual budget rises under Tories are fraction of past increases – IFS
Yearly funding rises of 1.3% between 2009-10 and 2015-16 are less than one-third of levels health service has had over 60 years

TechnicalEphemera · Post by **TechnicalEphemera** » Wed 03 May, 2017 10:31 pm

Eric_WLothian wrote:
TechnicalEphemera wrote:
HindleA wrote:https://stv.tv/news/politics/1387400-ru ... ick-a-box/

Ruth Davidson on rape clause: All they do is tick a box
Shocking, maybe one day she will see what a gigantic arse she is being.
I'm not defending Ruth Davidson but imo the SNP (who have been going on about this for weeks) are fighting the wrong battle. The problem is the benefits cap, not the exception for rape cases.
It's also worth remembering that Holyrood has the power to pay benefits for the third and subsequent children. The SNP choose to air a grievance rather than negate it.

From today, [September 2016] the Scottish Parliament assumes powers to:
•Create new benefits in devolved areas.
•Top up reserved benefits (such Universal Credit, Tax Credits and Child Benefit).
•Make discretionary payments and assistance.
•Change employment support.
•Make changes to Universal Credit for the costs of rented accommodation.
•Make changes to Universal Credit on the timing of payments and recipients.

In addition, from 1 April next year, the Scottish Parliament will take on the power to make discretionary housing payments. Other welfare powers (including responsibility for carers and disability benefits, maternity payments and funeral payments) will transfer at a later date.
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/new- ... parliament" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Thanks for the Scottish perspective.

South of the Border in Farage-Johnson Land we find her comments outrageous, because we see them simply as defending the morally indefensible. Owing to the nature of our glorious free press the SNP view is largely hidden.

Your analysis of their words versus their actions, and their refusal to nullify one of the most stupid and repulsive Tory policies ever, is both forensic and utterly damning.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Wed 03 May, 2017 10:32 pm

https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 ... sions-soar" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Baby boomers warned over alcohol intake as hospital admissions soar
Alcohol was the primary or secondary issue in an estimated 1.1m admissions in 2015/16, up 64% from a decade ago

SpinningHugo · Post by **SpinningHugo** » Wed 03 May, 2017 10:34 pm

Westminster voting intention:

CON: 48% (+4)
LAB: 29% (-2)
LDEM: 10% (-1)
UKIP: 5% (-1)

(via @YouGov / 02 - 03 May)
Chgs. w/ 28 Apr

TechnicalEphemera · Post by **TechnicalEphemera** » Wed 03 May, 2017 10:35 pm

SpinningHugo wrote:Westminster voting intention:

CON: 48% (+2)
LAB: 24% (-)
LDEM: 11% (-)
UKIP: 7% (-1)

(via @TNS_UK / 27 Apr - 02 May)

Feels about right, we will get a degree of reality check in the national equivalent vote tomorrow.

Still a little surprised that the Lib Dems have flatlined, I would have expected better polling for them.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Wed 03 May, 2017 10:39 pm

PorFavor wrote:Night night.

Goodnight, PorFavor

TechnicalEphemera · Post by **TechnicalEphemera** » Wed 03 May, 2017 10:40 pm

HindleA wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 ... sions-soar

Baby boomers warned over alcohol intake as hospital admissions soar
Alcohol was the primary or secondary issue in an estimated 1.1m admissions in 2015/16, up 64% from a decade ago

Yep, the generation that brought us Cameron and Brexit are also self obsessed and dependent on alcohol. Mind you with Tory governments for the next decade and Lurch as PM, they may have a point on the latter flaw.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Wed 03 May, 2017 10:41 pm

http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/uk ... -you-drink" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

What class are you according to the coffee you drink?

Hurrah literally classless I rarely drink the bloody stuff

#VoteTea

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Wed 03 May, 2017 10:42 pm

Goodnight, everyone.
love,
cJA

NonOxCol · Post by **NonOxCol** » Wed 03 May, 2017 10:50 pm

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Go. Fuck. Yourselves.

TechnicalEphemera · Post by **TechnicalEphemera** » Wed 03 May, 2017 10:56 pm

NonOxCol wrote:

Go. Fuck. Yourselves.

On the bright side, perfect location for an asteroid strike.

You would have to work pretty hard to find a more clueless and odious bunch.

NonOxCol · Post by **NonOxCol** » Wed 03 May, 2017 10:57 pm

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Go fuck yourselves. Again.

TechnicalEphemera · Post by **TechnicalEphemera** » Wed 03 May, 2017 11:00 pm

NonOxCol wrote:

Go fuck yourselves. Again.

Yeah, and soft pinko liberals won't authorise a first strike with Trident. I will. Give me one now and I will launch at the Daily Mail immediately.

SpinningHugo · Post by **SpinningHugo** » Wed 03 May, 2017 11:03 pm

TechnicalEphemera wrote:
SpinningHugo wrote:Westminster voting intention:

CON: 48% (+2)
LAB: 24% (-)
LDEM: 11% (-)
UKIP: 7% (-1)

(via @TNS_UK / 27 Apr - 02 May)
Feels about right, we will get a degree of reality check in the national equivalent vote tomorrow.

Still a little surprised that the Lib Dems have flatlined, I would have expected better polling for them.

I really don't think that will tell us very much, indeed I think it will show a much closer race than the result.

TechnicalEphemera · Post by **TechnicalEphemera** » Wed 03 May, 2017 11:09 pm

SpinningHugo wrote:
TechnicalEphemera wrote:
SpinningHugo wrote:Westminster voting intention:

CON: 48% (+2)
LAB: 24% (-)
LDEM: 11% (-)
UKIP: 7% (-1)

(via @TNS_UK / 27 Apr - 02 May)
Feels about right, we will get a degree of reality check in the national equivalent vote tomorrow.

Still a little surprised that the Lib Dems have flatlined, I would have expected better polling for them.

I really don't think that will tell us very much, indeed I think it will show a much closer race than the result.

I think it will show a closer race, because nobody is electing a PM, but it will give clues.

NonOxCol · Post by **NonOxCol** » Wed 03 May, 2017 11:14 pm

*tumbleweed*

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One of these "funny jokes" is by Alan Partridge, a satirical character of more than 25 years' standing.

And that is all you need to know...

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Wed 03 May, 2017 11:28 pm

The indy has the most apposite headline...

howsillyofme1 · Post by **howsillyofme1** » Wed 03 May, 2017 11:47 pm

Only MPs elect a Prime Minister and the monarch decides to accept or not

The voters elect an MP

It would be easier if the electorate understood how their own democracy worked!

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Thu 04 May, 2017 12:25 am

Guardian Cryptic crossword No 27,187, 11 Across: Voters to create panic after conclusion of Article 50 (10)

E(concluson of ArticlE)L(50)ECTORATE(anag of to create)

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Thu 04 May, 2017 12:30 am

Tory backed with nothing offers negative response (2,3,2)
(NO C)AN D(O)

FT

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Thu 04 May, 2017 12:38 am

Committed to the party but unswervingly offensive (4-4)

True Blue

Going round to corrupt a politician (8)

Rot a tory.

seeingclearly · Post by **seeingclearly** » Thu 04 May, 2017 1:52 am

Goodbye, Saxa.

Sad to pass on the news of the passing of this great musician. He was still going strong a couple of days ago and present at a local gig.

A Brummie through and through, and a genuinely lovely and unforgettable man. There will be many stories shared on the morrow, as people celebrate his life and feel his passing.

seeingclearly · Post by **seeingclearly** » Thu 04 May, 2017 2:09 am

TechnicalEphemera wrote:
tinyclanger2 wrote:http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/the ... 16166.html
True, she may be consciously following the Donald Trump playbook instead. That dictates that, when in a tight corner, you calculatedly attack the media or make up some half-baked conspiracy theory to distract everyone from some gaffe policy flop of your own. In this case it would be the failure of the Brexit talks before they’ve even started, and a ridiculed idea for social care vouchers.
But she isn't in a tight corner, she is romping home with a bigger than 97 landslide.

Which makes this even more bonkers and worrying.

There is no credible solution for a hard Brexit that doesn't crash the economy for a decade, and may induce the sort of economic shock that results in widespread violence and some killing.

Which means she can't afford to go there, in which case this isn't helping. Or more worryingly she is happy to trash the country and hold power by kicking the shit out of the plebs.

I'd go go the latter. Totally in keeping with the 'bad winners brigade' who will keep her in office unless people start recognising the shitstorm that is on its way.

seeingclearly · Post by **seeingclearly** » Thu 04 May, 2017 2:37 am

tinyclanger2 wrote:Johnson - Midwich Cuckoos
May - Dr Who and the Daleks

Others?

Not the same genre but I'll raise you - Dementor

seeingclearly · Post by **seeingclearly** » Thu 04 May, 2017 2:46 am

TobyLatimer wrote:
HindleA wrote:@howsilly sent you a PM as Lenny has gone missing.
He never arrived here. I suspect the worst. Probably took a wrong turn at Glapwell and is now packing shirts for Sports Direct at Shirebrook without a feather to his name.

He has been out on manoeuvres, lets just say the Maymobile is looking a bit the worse for wear. Feathers intact.

seeingclearly · Post by **seeingclearly** » Thu 04 May, 2017 2:49 am

Apologies, as you see got here a bit late for the main action. Rare foray into spring sunshine yesterday. And will be included in the ballot t/m come hell or high water.