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Last year just one in four apprentice starts (26 per cent) were under 19, compared to nearly half (44 per cent) aged 25 or over.

In fact, last year nearly a quarter (23.8 per cent) of apprenticeship starts were aged 35 and over, of which 3,560 of them were aged 60 and over.

All these adults (the majority of apprentices and likely not new in jobs) are being counted towards the 3 million target, despite maintaining a manifesto commitment to 3 million apprentice starts for “young people”.

SpinningHugo wrote:Survation/GMB (Phone):

CON 43 (-5)
LAB 34 (+5)
LD 8 (=)
UKIP 4 (=)
GRN 2 (=)
SNP 3 (-1)

People are putting up 'Strong and stable my arse' signs up across London

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U-turn coming on social care. There will be a cap. Read today's @EveningStandard for the details

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If the Tories think £100,000 is "reasonable inheritance" after care bills, why are they raising the inheritance tax threshold to £1 million?

Well, yeah.

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U-turn coming on social care. There will be a cap. Read today's @EveningStandard for the details

Nothing like a well-thought out plan and this etc...

But since my manifesto was published, the proposals have been subject to fake claims made by Jeremy Corbyn. (Politics Live, Guardian - my emphasis)

Willow904 wrote:Um...has there been a u-turn on a social care cap? Or is Theresa May just pretending her £100,000 floor is a "cap" to muddy the waters?

'Strong and stable' this ain't. It's a shambles.

May’s claim that her manifesto plans on social care were subject to “fake claims made by Jeremy Corbyn” (see 11.48am) is not true.

This is what the manifesto said about social care. It promised a “floor” for costs - a maximum that people would be allowed to retain,
when they are paying their care costs, so that people would be allowed to keep their last £100,000. But it did not propose a “cap”,
a maximum amount that people would have to spend.

Corbyn’s claim that this would lead to some people pay more was entirely correct.

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Willow904 wrote:Um...has there been a u-turn on a social care cap? Or is Theresa May just pretending her £100,000 floor is a "cap" to muddy the waters?

'Strong and stable' this ain't. It's a shambles.

StephenDolan wrote:So you won't have to sell your home to pay for care. Or go below £100k savings.

So.

Will it be paid from your estate?
What is the absolute limit?
Where is the shortfall going to come from?

"First, we will align the future basis for means-testing for domiciliary care with that for residential care, so that people are looked after in the place that is best for them. This will mean that the value of the family home will be taken into account along with other assets and income, whether care is provided at home, or in a residential or nursing care home.

Second, to ensure this is fair, we will introduce a single capital floor, set at £100,000, more than four times the current means test threshold. This will ensure that, no matter how large the cost of care turns out to be, people will always retain at least £100,000 of their savings and assets, including value in the family home.

Third, we will extend the current freedom to defer payments for residential care to those receiving care at home, so no-one will have to sell their home in their lifetime to pay for care."

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Conservatives buy 'dementia tax' Google ad as criticism of policy grows
Tactic shows Tories are willing to adopt pejorative term for policy in order to tackle criticism of social care proposals

The Conservatives have paid for a Google advert that appears at the top of the page when users search for “dementia tax” in response to growing attacks on Theresa May’s social care policy.

People using the search engine on Monday to find out about the term, coined to describe the prime minister’s manifesto commitment to shake up the funding of old age care, found the top result was a paid-for link from Conservatives.com that read: “The so-called ‘dementia tax’ – get the real facts.”

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AnatolyKasparov wrote:

Willow904 wrote:Um...has there been a u-turn on a social care cap? Or is Theresa May just pretending her £100,000 floor is a "cap" to muddy the waters?

'Strong and stable' this ain't. It's a shambles.

There's going to be a "consultation", apparently. If they had announced that at the outset, they might have got away with it.

At the Labour launch Jeremy Corbyn welcomes the U-turn.
He says that if George Osborne is now doing something useful with his life, that is to be welcomed.

"And if George Osborne is at last doing something useful in his life of supporting proper funding for social care, then thank you George for that.
And I urge him to read very carefully our manifesto says on social care."

- Jeremy Corbyn

Guardian Live Blog

The Tories promised to give expats the vote last year

The genius, or cynicism, of Theresa May’s early election is that, after so few months of government, she has no real record to study. But here, for those wondering about her ability to flout any of her own government’s solemn pledges, is a whopper that has left millions of UK citizens in the lurch.

In October her minister for the constitution, Chris Skidmore, made a clear and unequivocal pledge to bring UK citizens living abroad back into the democratic fold, by allowing them to vote, before the next election. This was especially important to those whose lives are most traumatically affected by Brexit because they live elsewhere in the EU.

On 8 June the millions of UK citizens living abroad will still be unable to vote.

“Let’s be clear we have not changed the principles we set out in our manifesto. What we have done is clarified that in the green paper which will be a consultation document we will have an upper limit. But the basic principles remain the same,” the prime minister responded.

“Nothing has changed, nothing has changed,” she added tersely, raising her voice towards the end of the session when a correspondent from the Telegraph asked if anything else was likely to be altered in the Tory manifesto.

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It is arguable, therefore, that no realistic political solution to the border issue exists at all. Certainly not within the parameters under which the negotiating parties appear to be operating.

gilsey wrote:Brexit appears to mean taking back control of everything but border
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It is arguable, therefore, that no realistic political solution to the border issue exists at all. Certainly not within the parameters under which the negotiating parties appear to be operating.

In the almost impossible event of Corbyn/Starmer being the ones negotiating with the EU, could they hang a u-turn on keeping the union together? I don't mean staying in the EU, but the EFTA/EEA. I'm pretty sure that's where Starmer's inclination would lie. Sturgeon seems to have implied the SNP would be happy enough with that.

SpinningHugo wrote:CON: 47% (-1)
LAB: 33% (+5)
LDEM: 9% (-1)
UKIP: 4% (-2)
GRN: 2% (-1)

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