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Ok, well unfortunately some political points now arise.
1) I have no doubt the decision to do this was honestly made. If you don't, you're only at one remove from the falseflag morons on facebook.
2) We need to restart the election campaign proper asap. This is for several reasons
i) it is good for democracy
ii) is is what the murderer and sympathisers wouldn't want
iii) May is getting to look prime ministerial in a way she is good at (she has had practice at this as Home Sec).
3) If there is, God forbid, a serious terrorist incident the question then arises of postponing the vote. I hope that question never has to be answered.
Ok, well unfortunately some political points now arise.
1) I have no doubt the decision to do this was honestly made. If you don't, you're only at one remove from the falseflag morons on facebook.
2) We need to restart the election campaign proper asap. This is for several reasons
i) it is good for democracy
ii) is is what the murderer and sympathisers wouldn't want
iii) May is getting to look prime ministerial in a way she is good at (she has had practice at this as Home Sec).
3) If there is, God forbid, a serious terrorist incident the question then arises of postponing the vote. I hope that question never has to be answered.
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Thanks. I hope we don't see claims that the threat level increase has been cynically made. It is everywhere else this morning. Some people really are complete fools.
(I am not sure being forced to put the army on the streets is a good look for a government trying to portray itself as strong and stable in any event.)
The NHS and social care system in the UK is facing a staggering increase in the cost of looking after elderly people within the next few years, according to major new research which shows a 25% increase in those who will need care between 2015 and 2025.
Thanks. I hope we don't see claims that the threat level increase has been cynically made. It is everywhere else this morning. Some people really are complete fools.
(I am not sure being forced to put the army on the streets is a good look for a government trying to portray itself as strong and stable in any event.)
Those tanks at Heathrow not long before the Iraq war in 2003 are still being invoked, I see.......
Manchester attack: US leaks about bomber irritating - Rudd
Home Secretary Amber Rudd has said she is irritated with the US for releasing information about the Manchester bomber before UK police would have liked.
Ms Rudd said the British had wanted to control the flow of information to "keep the element of surprise".
She told BBC Radio 4's Today programme she had been very clear with Washington "that it should not happen again". (BBC News website)
Well that is my vote casted,rough calculation my ninth in GE's.A difficult decision for me,as ever,particularly given the late entry of the let's blame not quite so poor and sick/disabled pensioners for our own negligence Party.Sadly,force of application without actually destroying the ballot paper doesn't increase the singular vote.
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Re my above post, very useful snippet from Blunkett's diaries has just been quoted in "another place" showing that he never authorised the "armoured vehicles" (no, they were NOT tanks! No sirree!!) being brought into action then, and was furious with the Met Police for doing so.
Not least because he grasped how it would be viewed cynically by all too many.
Easy to forget now what an astute and able politician he was in his prime.
Jeremy Corbyn plans to relaunch Labour national campaigning with a speech on Friday, PoliticsHome’s Kevin Schofield reports.
Kevin Schofield (@PolhomeEditor)
BREAKING Jeremy Corbyn tells staff at Labour HQ that local campaigning will resume tomorrow, with the national campaign re-starting Friday.
May 24, 2017
More on the Metropolitan elite and how losing London's business to Europe is going to give us back control ....
https://www.theguardian.com/business/20 ... spend-less" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
London economy subsidises rest of UK, ONS figures show
Breakdown of public finances shows how taxes and public spending are used to narrow north-south divide
AnatolyKasparov wrote:That sounds about the right timescale tbh. The talk of stopping everything until Sunday left me a bit uneasy.
Yes, good.
This morning, Mr citizen and I watched John Prescott, his fox and the Labour campaign bus he eventually boarded after he
raised some hell about media having different rules for different political parties. The segment was likely from a couple
days ago, I don't know exactly. It was good to laugh.
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tinyclanger2 wrote:More on the Metropolitan elite and how losing London's business to Europe is going to give us back control ....
https://www.theguardian.com/business/20 ... spend-less" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
London economy subsidises rest of UK, ONS figures show
Breakdown of public finances shows how taxes and public spending are used to narrow north-south divide
This is the original title of that article.
UK budget deficit grows to more than 10bn as people spend less
Jonathan Freedland's latest in the Guardian is interesting.
Comments closed about an hour ago and there's nearly a couple thousand posts below the line.
I didn't contribute anything myself. I've only read a few posts. I appreciate the conversation.
Troops on the streets create unsettling terrain for our democracy
Doggers, drugs and sheep attacks – why Britain’s naughtiest wood is closed
The person on the motorbike tearing up the trail is breaking the law
Instead of making sure motor vehicles aren't on trails, they've decided to shut the place up so no one can use it.
citizenJA wrote:The GE is still on, isn't it? 8 June 2017?
Until announced otherwise, yes.
"Whatever happened to "2017 General Election"? Well after they failed to produce a costed manifesto - and following
[Theresa May's] establish record - I think she will probably cancel it denying she has ever suggested one."
Cousin's eldest back home safe and sound with all his friends. They left before the end of the last song; walked out the foyer and were in the car park - thank God for the family trait of leaving before the traffic gets crazy!
May's manifesto pledge on free school breakfasts undercosted
It was worse that that report says - the costing wasn't even in the manifesto but in a press release. Whoever thought it was a good idea to sen that has probably got a sever kicking by now.
I note that the tweeter of all things educational - in the Tories favour of course - Toby Young, has completely ignored it. Funny that...
If I'm not here, then I'll be in the library. Or the other library.
British intelligence and security agencies are frustrated by a series of leaks of sensitive, up-to-date information from their investigations which appear to have been disclosed to media by their counterparts in the US without permission.
The UK government has already made its annoyance clear to Washington.
If I'm not here, then I'll be in the library. Or the other library.
Jeremy Corbyn plans to relaunch Labour national campaigning with a speech on Friday, PoliticsHome’s Kevin Schofield reports.
Kevin Schofield (@PolhomeEditor)
BREAKING Jeremy Corbyn tells staff at Labour HQ that local campaigning will resume tomorrow, with the national campaign re-starting Friday.
May 24, 2017
While this is a truly awful event outside of party politics it will alter the dynamic of the campaign. Corbyn has I think done pretty well handling the resumption of the election in this way.
However one bunch of people who do look like a bunch of utter incompetents are the American security services. First they leak the name of the bomber (a really bad thing to have done for all sorts of reasons) and despite being asked not to they are now putting out details on the forensics.
Is anybody in charge of their intelligence service any more? I suspect right now nobody anybody will tell them anything they don't want in the NYT, which is a disaster.
