Tuesday 30th May 2017
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Radio or mumsnet?
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The fact he was late and then left half an hour earlier than originally scheduled seems to be the main complaint from open minded posters who were genuinely interested in taking part in the event. The impression that mums are only worth twenty minutes is not a good one and his campaign team should be ashamed of themselves. Some did make the point Theresa May hasn't bothered at all and it's not going to make any difference to the outcome of the election, but I don't see how pk1 and I can conclude that the mumsnet chat went well when so many who took part expressed disappointment.Temulkar wrote:And its funny you link the mumsnet - post chat comments by people like Lisa Muggrdge et al (and itss not as if she is unbiased now is she) but not tothe start of the chat or 4 pages of positive comments before page 5? An oversight I am sure, as the chat itself didnt go to badly at all, now did it...
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Oh, I thought we'd already got that (the Referendum outcome). Since nothing's changed insofaras we're still no clearer on the way forward or what "Brexit" will comprise of, where's the need for another one?May says she called the election because it was important to to get a mandate for Brexit. (Politics Live, Guardian)
Edited to add -
nearly put 'what "Brexit" means'. Stopped myself in time. After all, we all know that '"Brexit" means . . .'
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The difference is that Dr RoT (edit, and you of course CJA ) and willow contribute to the many discussions. Pk1 does a drive-by.citizenJA wrote:We constructively assist Labour when and if something is wrong and needs putting right, if possible
We're going to have different ideas regarding wrong and if it's a reasonable time to bring it up
I think RogerOThornhill, Willow904 and pk1 have made good points
Mistakes happen and clarification is possible
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Page 5 had the comments that were posted after he had been and gone.Temulkar wrote:And its funny you link the mumsnet - post chat comments by people like Lisa Muggrdge et al (and itss not as if she is unbiased now is she) but not tothe start of the chat or 4 pages of positive comments before page 5? An oversight I am sure, as the chat itself didnt go to badly at all, now did it...
Turning up late then naffing off early went down like a cup of cold sick.
If it's a Corbyn love-in you're looking for, maybe try the other place where you'll see the many faces that used to post here.JustineMumsnet (MNHQ) Tue 30-May-17 13:09:50
Very sorry to disappoint folks - we were under the impression that Jeremy could spare an hour for us which is the usual duration of our chats but 20 minutes in his team told us he'd have to leave to catch a train at 12.30 We did try to persuade them to stay longer but he had a launch event he had to get to. Apologies for the disappointment. We agree it's not an ideal length of time for a webchat.
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Can't comment on something I didn't watch.StephenDolan wrote:Ah pk1, no comments on the May v Corbyn from last night, or is it just a quick comment on The Catastrophic radio interview?
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No comments on last night?pk1 wrote:Page 5 had the comments that were posted after he had been and gone.Temulkar wrote:And its funny you link the mumsnet - post chat comments by people like Lisa Muggrdge et al (and itss not as if she is unbiased now is she) but not tothe start of the chat or 4 pages of positive comments before page 5? An oversight I am sure, as the chat itself didnt go to badly at all, now did it...
Turning up late then naffing off early went down like a cup of cold sick.
If it's a Corbyn love-in you're looking for, maybe try the other place where you'll see the many faces that used to post here.JustineMumsnet (MNHQ) Tue 30-May-17 13:09:50
Very sorry to disappoint folks - we were under the impression that Jeremy could spare an hour for us which is the usual duration of our chats but 20 minutes in his team told us he'd have to leave to catch a train at 12.30 We did try to persuade them to stay longer but he had a launch event he had to get to. Apologies for the disappointment. We agree it's not an ideal length of time for a webchat.
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I see. I'll remember that.pk1 wrote:Can't comment on something I didn't watch.StephenDolan wrote:Ah pk1, no comments on the May v Corbyn from last night, or is it just a quick comment on The Catastrophic radio interview?
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Like belonging to the Labour Party, putting up Labour Party posters, assisting local Labour councillors on local village initiatives - that sort of agenda you mean?Temulkar wrote:It's almost like some people have an agenda, isn't it?StephenDolan wrote:Ah pk1, no comments on the May v Corbyn from last night, or is it just a quick comment on The Catastrophic radio interview?
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StephenDolan wrote:The difference is that Dr RoT (edit, and you of course CJA ) and willow contribute to the many discussions. Pk1 does a drive-by.citizenJA wrote:We constructively assist Labour when and if something is wrong and needs putting right, if possible
We're going to have different ideas regarding wrong and if it's a reasonable time to bring it up
I think RogerOThornhill, Willow904 and pk1 have made good points
Mistakes happen and clarification is possible
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Can we quit the false portrayal of this and other places,not least because at various times this forum is described is exactly the opposite terms,it confuses me.
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@StephenDolan
Please don't do this, I beg you
pk1 is Labour
I stand with you all
Please don't do this, I beg you
pk1 is Labour
I stand with you all
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No cock references by Mordaunt noticed so far.I know PF follows such things.
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@cja how can stand my us all,given geographical considerations,please clarify.
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FWIW if anybody actually agreed with me,beyond the occasional,I would be deeply worried indeed.
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Okay cja, for you, I will cease.citizenJA wrote:@StephenDolan
Please don't do this, I beg you
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figurative standHindleA wrote:@cja how can stand my us all,given geographical considerations,please clarify.
not easily shattered
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I got the kettle on
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Where,head,feet,hob ?the lack of detail is worrying.
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Mr HindleA, have you supplied us with baked goods?HindleA wrote:Where,head,feet,hob ?the lack of detail is worrying.
kettle on the hob
tea is steeping
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May I get away with potential baked tobacco?
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Ha!Speaking at a Labour campaign event in Watford, Jeremy Corbyn apologised for not being able to give the cost of his childcare policy in his Woman’s Hour interview earlier. He said:https://www.theguardian.com/politics/li ... 93c8277897" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;I didn’t have the exact figure in front of me, so I was unable to answer that question, for which obviously I apologise. But I don’t apologise for what’s in the manifesto and I will explain exactly what the cost is.
It’s £4.8bn it will cost by the end of the parliament and it means that 1 million children will get childcare, free childcare: 30 hours per week between the years of two and four.
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You roll them yourself, that's okayHindleA wrote:May I get away with potential baked tobacco?
home-made baked tobacco
good name for a caramel-chocolate dessert
digestive biscuits crumbled on top
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Growth will be lower if the Conservatives win
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I have apprentices to make my roll ups,since grape peelers were made redundant.
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Our values are rooted in the fundamental truth that whatever your background, wherever you are from,
you should have the means and opportunity to fulfil your potential."
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Good to hear Corbyn castigate the abusers of Emma Barnett after his interview this morning.
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Yes, despite what some like to insinuate he has no time for such stuff. Nor can he police the wilder recesses of social media.pk1 wrote:Good to hear Corbyn castigate the abusers of Emma Barnett after his interview this morning.
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Indeed. Every party has its share of supporters who will come out with stuff that is wince-inducing - social media - and Twitter in particular - has just brought them into the open. But it needs slapping down sharpish and its good to see that happening now.pk1 wrote:Good to hear Corbyn castigate the abusers of Emma Barnett after his interview this morning.
Edited to spell wince correctly...
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Stuck record time again:
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Like most who watched, I recall this woman, and certainly recall the "Labour supporter" businessman upset about the abolition of ZHC, the £10 NMW, and VAT on his kids' school fees.
It's bad enough that the BBC peak-time TV news is *leading* on that Woman's Hour thing (3rd or 4th story on the Radio 2 news bulletins I heard today). But shit like this, where they're supposed to distil for and inform people who didn't watch...
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Like most who watched, I recall this woman, and certainly recall the "Labour supporter" businessman upset about the abolition of ZHC, the £10 NMW, and VAT on his kids' school fees.
It's bad enough that the BBC peak-time TV news is *leading* on that Woman's Hour thing (3rd or 4th story on the Radio 2 news bulletins I heard today). But shit like this, where they're supposed to distil for and inform people who didn't watch...
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Apologies if you've had these already, although not many apologies as they are worth the repeat.
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Out of internet action for boring personal and work reasons. This seemed interesting to me
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@SpinningHugo
Ah - there you are. I was beginning to wonder if you'd got tangled up in a guy-rope, somewhere.
Ah - there you are. I was beginning to wonder if you'd got tangled up in a guy-rope, somewhere.
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Another excellent interview on the One Show, and obvs he is winning the twitter battle.
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That looks horribly close to me. Do Corbyn and Co really really want the responsibility of respecting TWOTP and negotiating all the horrendous detail of sorting the assets and liabililities of the divorce ?SpinningHugo wrote:Out of internet action for boring personal and work reasons. This seemed interesting to me
http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pol ... l-election" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
The Tories would be overjoyed to be out of the line of fire .
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Evening, folks,
A medic chum put this on her BookTube page. It's worth sharing, although I'm sure it's not news to many here.
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It's an explanation of how the Tories will force the sale of NHS land and assets.
A medic chum put this on her BookTube page. It's worth sharing, although I'm sure it's not news to many here.
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It's an explanation of how the Tories will force the sale of NHS land and assets.
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I assume this would be coalition territory, which would allow the withdrawal of A50 as a requirement of LibDems and SNP/NI support. That would please a lot of people.frog222 wrote:That looks horribly close to me. Do Corbyn and Co really really want the responsibility of respecting TWOTP and negotiating all the horrendous detail of sorting the assets and liabililities of the divorce ?SpinningHugo wrote:Out of internet action for boring personal and work reasons. This seemed interesting to me
http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pol ... l-election" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
The Tories would be overjoyed to be out of the line of fire .
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Do you mean overturning TWOTP ?55DegreesNorth wrote:I assume this would be coalition territory, which would allow the withdrawal of A50 as a requirement of LibDems and SNP/NI support. That would please a lot of people.frog222 wrote:That looks horribly close to me. Do Corbyn and Co really really want the responsibility of respecting TWOTP and negotiating all the horrendous detail of sorting the assets and liabililities of the divorce ?SpinningHugo wrote:Out of internet action for boring personal and work reasons. This seemed interesting to me
http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pol ... l-election" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
The Tories would be overjoyed to be out of the line of fire .
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This TWOTP. Is it like gnat's-pee?
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[quote="frog222"Do you mean overturning TWOTP ?[/quote]
In all seriousness, I could see an argument for suspending TWOTP in order to have a genuinely informed debate, debunking lies and bollocks. A lot of people who voted Brexit would support that.
I believe that if the EU vote had had three options:
1. Leave
2. Remain
3. Fuck off, everybody;
that option 3 would have won.
In all seriousness, I could see an argument for suspending TWOTP in order to have a genuinely informed debate, debunking lies and bollocks. A lot of people who voted Brexit would support that.
I believe that if the EU vote had had three options:
1. Leave
2. Remain
3. Fuck off, everybody;
that option 3 would have won.
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In all seriousness, I could see an argument for suspending TWOTP in order to have a genuinely informed debate, debunking lies and bollocks. A lot of people who voted Brexit would support that.55DegreesNorth wrote:[quote="frog222"Do you mean overturning TWOTP ?
I believe that if the EU vote had had three options:
1. Leave
2. Remain
3. Fuck off, everybody;
that option 3 would have won.[/quote]
Option3 was abstention !!!
55 -- suspending the so-called TWOTP would take a VERY high degree of political skill
Farage, and perhaps some other major Tory brexiteers, would TRY to bring out the Mob, for a start ...
I need to think some more on this, so many variables .... !
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sorry. Old information, though somehow I missed the passing of Maya Angelou three years ago. I was pretty unwell in 2014 which might explain why.
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I've been hypothesising about this for a while, but had stopped at the Norway option.55DegreesNorth wrote:I assume this would be coalition territory, which would allow the withdrawal of A50 as a requirement of LibDems and SNP/NI support. That would please a lot of people.frog222 wrote:That looks horribly close to me. Do Corbyn and Co really really want the responsibility of respecting TWOTP and negotiating all the horrendous detail of sorting the assets and liabililities of the divorce ?SpinningHugo wrote:Out of internet action for boring personal and work reasons. This seemed interesting to me
http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pol ... l-election" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
The Tories would be overjoyed to be out of the line of fire .
Actually overturning TWOTP and withdrawing A50? I'm not sure they should try, selling EFTA would be hard enough.
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