Wednesday 31st May 2017
Posted: Wed 31 May, 2017 6:58 am
Morning all.
The Conservative's commitment to hard Brexit is bad for the UK currency, so even a hung parliament could be better than a Tory majority, US bank says
http://smallbusiness.co.uk/uk-workers-t ... s-2538772/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;Falling value of the pound revealed as UK workers top concern
Strange order, for instance I'd have thought the falling pound could have been seen as an effect of brexit, and if concerned about job security then changes to the benefit system would be a higher priority, but it may just be how question was asked & results interpreted.Top seven concerns
1. The falling value of the pound
2. Automation
3. Outsourcing
4. Brexit
5. Globalisation
6. Immigration
7. Changes to the benefits system
The milk has turned, the cookies crumbled,citizenJA wrote:Auguries bode ill for Theresa May's Tories
Baked and sponge-based cheese cake, I trust.tinybgoat wrote:The milk has turned, the cookies crumbled,citizenJA wrote:Auguries bode ill for Theresa May's Tories
the coagulation of chaos has begun,
the coalition of cheesecake, will rise up.
Theresa May has had her day, in the sun.
(me too, think I best go lie down, now)
Just like two years ago, then.StephenDolan wrote:Labour smell of poo and wee.
Seems to be where we're heading.
Desperation is never a good look.StephenDolan wrote:Labour smell of poo and wee.
Seems to be where we're heading.
That the polls were all in agreement that Labour were headed for coalition territory helped that narrative in 2015, of course. Unlike now....oh, hang on....AnatolyKasparov wrote:Just like two years ago, then.StephenDolan wrote:Labour smell of poo and wee.
Seems to be where we're heading.
On that occasion, though, the Tories had something to hang it on - "you will be held to ransom by SCARY SCOTS!" - which cut through to many floating voters.
(assisted, of course, by the "left-liberal BBC" making that its lead story ALMOST EVERY F***ING DAY of the campaign)
Even this morning, the speculation was that Labour would be sending Emily Thornberry instead. Yes, a risk from JC but maybe one worth taking.StephenDolan wrote:Ballsy move to attend tonight. It'll be interesting to see how Sturgeon plays it.
Edit: Robertson, not Sturgeon.
Definitely baked, not sure on the base though,PorFavor wrote:Baked and sponge-based cheese cake, I trust.tinybgoat wrote:The milk has turned, the cookies crumbled,citizenJA wrote:Auguries bode ill for Theresa May's Tories
the coagulation of chaos has begun,
the coalition of cheesecake, will rise up.
Theresa May has had her day, in the sun.
(me too, think I best go lie down, now)
I'm not a fan of Emily Thornberry so I see it more as a wise move myself. I really don't get what people see in her. I assume it's relief all round that it's not Diane Abbott in response to Rudd?AnatolyKasparov wrote:Even this morning, the speculation was that Labour would be sending Emily Thornberry instead. Yes, a risk from JC but maybe one worth taking.StephenDolan wrote:Ballsy move to attend tonight. It'll be interesting to see how Sturgeon plays it.
Edit: Robertson, not Sturgeon.
HindleA wrote:A cardboard cut out with "Strong and Stable" on it.
Yes, but they show the Tories capable of making gains from Labour in leave voting areas. What I want to know is where people think Labour can make gains from the Tories. I used to have a Labour MP during the New Labour years, for instance, but I don't realistically expect to see them win here now and it seems unlikely Labour can gain more seats from the SNP than the Tories, so where do people think Labour can realistically make gains that don't just balance losses but narrows their seat difference to the Tories? Where are the battle grounds?AnatolyKasparov wrote:The local elections were better for the Tories than the current polls are, and even then there weren't *that* many nailed-on gains in evidence.
The UK broadcasting regulator is considering whether to launch an investigation into Jeremy Paxman’s interview with Jeremy Corbyn after receiving dozens of complaints that he was biased against the Labour leader. (Politics Live, Guardian)
Willow904 wrote:I'm not a fan of Emily Thornberry so I see it more as a wise move myself. I really don't get what people see in her. I assume it's relief all round that it's not Diane Abbott in response to Rudd?AnatolyKasparov wrote:Even this morning, the speculation was that Labour would be sending Emily Thornberry instead. Yes, a risk from JC but maybe one worth taking.StephenDolan wrote:Ballsy move to attend tonight. It'll be interesting to see how Sturgeon plays it.
Edit: Robertson, not Sturgeon.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/election-2017-40091449" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;Jeremy Corbyn: I have never been afraid of a debate
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12:46
Here's the full statement from the Labour leader on his decision to join the BBC election debate:
I will be taking part in tonight's debate because I believe we must give people the chance to hear and engage with the leaders of the main parties before they vote. I have never been afraid of a debate in my life. Labour's campaign has been about taking our polices to people across the country and listening to the concerns of voters. The Tories have been conducting a stage-managed arms-length campaign and have treated the public with contempt. Refusing to join me in Cambridge tonight would be another sign of Theresa May's weakness, not strength."
I'm surprised at that, Paxman didn't land a blow on Corbyn.PorFavor wrote:The UK broadcasting regulator is considering whether to launch an investigation into Jeremy Paxman’s interview with Jeremy Corbyn after receiving dozens of complaints that he was biased against the Labour leader. (Politics Live, Guardian)
Actually a bit of a worry that they might, in this one instance, go ahead with an investigation, and then the press can frame it that Jeremy Corbyn can't "fight his own battles". Then they'll announce, later, that there's no case to answer. Jeremy Corbyn would be wise to say that he, personally, doesn't need an investigation at this juncture.Temulkar wrote:I'm surprised at that, Paxman didn't land a blow on Corbyn.PorFavor wrote:The UK broadcasting regulator is considering whether to launch an investigation into Jeremy Paxman’s interview with Jeremy Corbyn after receiving dozens of complaints that he was biased against the Labour leader. (Politics Live, Guardian)
He just made himself look like an arse.Temulkar wrote:I'm surprised at that, Paxman didn't land a blow on Corbyn.PorFavor wrote:The UK broadcasting regulator is considering whether to launch an investigation into Jeremy Paxman’s interview with Jeremy Corbyn after receiving dozens of complaints that he was biased against the Labour leader. (Politics Live, Guardian)
Someone (Porfavor?) was musing whether they'd dump her over a slim victory. Looks unlikely. Brexit is toxic and everyone knows it.He also argues that Mrs May is lucky there's "no Gordon Brown in her cabinet" maneuvering to take over from her at the first opportunity, so even if the victory is not stellar, she'll be safe.
Hello.Willow904 wrote:Tim Collins, speechwriter for Thatcher, on BBC live blog:
Someone (Porfavor?) was musing whether they'd dump her over a slim victory. Looks unlikely. Brexit is toxic and everyone knows it.He also argues that Mrs May is lucky there's "no Gordon Brown in her cabinet" maneuvering to take over from her at the first opportunity, so even if the victory is not stellar, she'll be safe.
Did you go for the walk? It's a lovely day for one. (Here, anyway.)citizenJA wrote:Good-afternoon, everyone
We're in agreementHindleA wrote:Contentious,I know,but I think today marks the end of May.
Damn! Knew I shouldn't have guessed. I'm absolutely rubbish at remembering these things.PorFavor wrote:Hello.Willow904 wrote:Tim Collins, speechwriter for Thatcher, on BBC live blog:
Someone (Porfavor?) was musing whether they'd dump her over a slim victory. Looks unlikely. Brexit is toxic and everyone knows it.He also argues that Mrs May is lucky there's "no Gordon Brown in her cabinet" maneuvering to take over from her at the first opportunity, so even if the victory is not stellar, she'll be safe.
No - not me.
Yes! Nowhere fancy, local walk with Mr citizenPorFavor wrote:Did you go for the walk? It's a lovely day for one. (Here, anyway.)citizenJA wrote:Good-afternoon, everyone
These target seats seem very disparate to me, whereas a lot of the Tory targets are northern leave voting areas. Is that right? The following are lists based just on size of majority:10 key seats for Labour to defend – and 10 more to target if Corbyn is to win power
It'll be busy on the Wirral between those two marginals and the nearby city of Chester seat.Willow904 wrote:http://labourlist.org/2017/05/10-key-se ... win-power/These target seats seem very disparate to me, whereas a lot of the Tory targets are northern leave voting areas. Is that right? The following are lists based just on size of majority:10 key seats for Labour to defend – and 10 more to target if Corbyn is to win power
http://www.electionpolling.co.uk/battle ... nservative" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.electionpolling.co.uk/battle ... ets/labour" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Your questions regarding the above are excellent. I've a confession to make. I don't/can't know how long or steep the hill needing climbing is, I'm only taking one step at a time, letting stronger people lead. Other Labour party people are better informed and working harder than I'm able to now. I'll read any data anyone posts. I'm not saying I won't read data about these pertinent questions. I'm only saying I can't find out just now.Willow904 wrote:http://labourlist.org/2017/05/10-key-se ... win-power/These target seats seem very disparate to me, whereas a lot of the Tory targets are northern leave voting areas. Is that right? The following are lists based just on size of majority:10 key seats for Labour to defend – and 10 more to target if Corbyn is to win power
http://www.electionpolling.co.uk/battle ... nservative" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.electionpolling.co.uk/battle ... ets/labour" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;