Thursday 1st June 2017

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Thu 01 Jun, 2017 7:30 pm

Mr Steel

Theresa May sees the election as a distraction – I bet she wishes she could get her hands on whichever idiot called it
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/the ... 67696.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Thu 01 Jun, 2017 7:32 pm

On Sunday she’ll see Jeremy Hunt is being interviewed by Andrew Marr, and run into the studio, grabbing him out of the chair while yelling “WHAT do you think you’re doing here asking people to vote for us? Go home and pay attention to Brexit negotiations, like I’m doing.”

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Thu 01 Jun, 2017 7:34 pm

In any case, as Damian Green explained when asked why she didn’t turn up, “She takes lots of questions from the public.” There you are, that explains it. She can’t take questions from the public AND go on television, who’s she supposed to be, Superman?

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Thu 01 Jun, 2017 7:35 pm

I’m sure there are government leaflets that get handed to the unemployed, that advise, “When you are asked to attend an interview, it’s essential that you stand out as a candidate by not going. When they call and ask why you’re not there, affect an air that says, ‘I’ve got better things to do than waste time with you wankers’, and the job will be as good as yours!”

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Thu 01 Jun, 2017 7:40 pm

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/bbc ... 67101.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
The ban on “Liar Liar” illustrates the problem with the prevailing culture at the top of the BBC.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Thu 01 Jun, 2017 7:42 pm

Am having a Lene Lovich moment.
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tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Thu 01 Jun, 2017 7:43 pm

(only the alone bit - not the tumbling to the ground and that, I hasten to add)

la la la la la la

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Thu 01 Jun, 2017 7:44 pm

Stiff.
Records.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Thu 01 Jun, 2017 7:46 pm

These consecutive words caught my eye like no-one's business:

Nina Hagen & Lene Lovich in Italy

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citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Thu 01 Jun, 2017 7:49 pm

Theresa May as Uriah Heep
I hadn't noticed that until now

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Thu 01 Jun, 2017 7:49 pm

tinyclanger2 wrote:These consecutive words caught my eye like no-one's business:

Nina Hagen & Lene Lovich in Italy

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My lucky number...

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Thu 01 Jun, 2017 7:54 pm

tinyclanger2 wrote:Mr Steel
Theresa May sees the election as a distraction – I bet she wishes she could get her hands on whichever idiot called it
http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/the ... 67696.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

T May called the election
she'll blame god

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Thu 01 Jun, 2017 7:55 pm

a la Stephen Fry?

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Thu 01 Jun, 2017 7:57 pm

tinyclanger2 wrote:a la Stephen Fry?

I like Stephen Fry

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Thu 01 Jun, 2017 7:59 pm

http://www.euronews.com/2017/06/01/the- ... ws+-+en%29" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Summary from that Europe with respect to our forthcoming "poll" and the main characters involved.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Thu 01 Jun, 2017 8:00 pm

Revealed: chocolate and drinks shrink since Brexit vote with no price drop

it's all that damned Dave Cameron's fault

tinybgoat · Post by **tinybgoat** » Thu 01 Jun, 2017 8:05 pm

citizenJA wrote:Theresa May as Uriah Heep
I hadn't noticed that until now

I googled and couldn't see a resemblance with any of the band members, then brain kicked in.

frightful_oik · Post by **frightful_oik** » Thu 01 Jun, 2017 8:12 pm

Ed M's latest tweet is good. Can somebody post it here.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Thu 01 Jun, 2017 8:17 pm

tinyclanger2 wrote:
On Sunday she’ll see Jeremy Hunt is being interviewed by Andrew Marr, and run into the studio, grabbing him out of the chair while yelling “WHAT do you think you’re doing here asking people to vote for us? Go home and pay attention to Brexit negotiations, like I’m doing.”

Perhaps going public because he's decided that hiding behind Treez won't get him anywhere . . .

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Thu 01 Jun, 2017 8:19 pm

The hope is upsetting me.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Thu 01 Jun, 2017 8:32 pm

#Christopher Hope

BREAKING Theresa May has refused to appear on @BBCRadio4's Woman's Hour tomorrow morning. She is sending Justine Greening.

#Ed M

WestEnd JCP Can I report someone who has failed to attend two job interviews in 48 hours. I know where she lives..What is the sanction?

# politics home Theresa May on Corbyn's debate challenge: “He ought to be paying more attention to thinking abt Brexit negotiations – that’s what I’m doing”

Ed M
Hell No. She's not tough enough

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Thu 01 Jun, 2017 8:45 pm

Potential irony overload as Europe gets act together:

Angela Merkel and Emmanuel Macron have given Europe its mojo back by standing up to Donald Trump
In expressing loss of confidence in US President, leaders of France and Germany caught public mood and did much to restore continent's sense of self

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/ang ... 64731.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Thu 01 Jun, 2017 8:55 pm

Good grief...I know we were warned but even so.

Bernie Sanders‏Verified account @SenSanders 18m18 minutes ago
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Trump's decision to withdraw the US from the Paris climate agreement is an abdication of American leadership and an international disgrace.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Thu 01 Jun, 2017 9:01 pm

PorFavor wrote:The hope is upsetting me.

I know exactly what you mean

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Thu 01 Jun, 2017 9:05 pm

tinybgoat wrote:
citizenJA wrote:Theresa May as Uriah Heep
I hadn't noticed that until now
I googled and couldn't see a resemblance with any of the band members, then brain kicked in.

potential misunderstandings abound in just one language

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Thu 01 Jun, 2017 9:36 pm

bill peduto (@billpeduto)

As the Mayor of Pittsburgh, I can assure you that we will follow the guidelines of the Paris Agreement for our people, our economy & future. https://t.co/3znXGTcd8C" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
June 1, 2017 (Guardian)

https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... -live-news

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Thu 01 Jun, 2017 10:01 pm

I wonder what the good people of Paris, Texas thought about their President's words?

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Thu 01 Jun, 2017 10:04 pm

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 68226.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Former US presidential candidate Bernie Sanders has said he is "very impressed" by Jeremy Corbyn and the Labour leader's willingness to talk about class issues.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Thu 01 Jun, 2017 10:05 pm

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 68201.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Elon Musk quits as Trump adviser over Paris Agreement withdrawal: 'Climate change is real'

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Thu 01 Jun, 2017 10:06 pm

Jeff Immelt, the chief executive of the conglomerate General Electric, tweeted: "Disappointed with today’s decision on the Paris Agreement. Climate change is real. Industry must now lead and not depend on government."

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Thu 01 Jun, 2017 10:11 pm

http://www.pewglobal.org/2017/06/01/bri ... ions-loom/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

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tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Thu 01 Jun, 2017 10:12 pm

Similar to the June referendum, optimistic attitudes toward Brexit are most frequently expressed by people who are 50 or older, have a secondary education or less, and are partial to political parties on the right, including the Conservative (Tory) Party and the United Kingdom Independence Party (UKIP).

(same source)

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Thu 01 Jun, 2017 10:15 pm

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NonOxCol · Post by **NonOxCol** » Thu 01 Jun, 2017 10:21 pm

SHOUT OUT TO JILL STEIN AND SUSAN SARANDON.

And every other false equivalence moron out there.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Thu 01 Jun, 2017 10:24 pm

NonOxCol wrote:SHOUT OUT TO JILL STEIN AND SUSAN SARANDON.

And every other false equivalence moron out there.

You've lost me.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Thu 01 Jun, 2017 10:30 pm

http://news.forexlive.com/!/uk-election ... s-20170601" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
'Britain Elects' aggregates UK election polls into its model
In summary:
Conservative 362 (+32 seats)
Labour 206 (-26 )
Scottish National 47 (-9 )
Liberal Democrat 11 (+3 )
UKIP 0 (-1 )

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Thu 01 Jun, 2017 10:33 pm

https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... -us-impact" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
The Paris deal pullout is more damaging to the US than the climate

If I recall correctly, the US dragged their feet on signing up.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Thu 01 Jun, 2017 10:35 pm

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... duced-lead" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Turnout of younger voters holds key to election outcome
Divergence in polls – giving Theresa May everything from a 3-point to a 12-point lead – is down to how pollsters treat 18-34s

55DegreesNorth · Post by **55DegreesNorth** » Thu 01 Jun, 2017 10:41 pm

Evening folks,
Just watching Look North. The reporter noted that there was little detail in Theresa Mays speech in Guisbourough, and showed her doing a classic Maybot non-answer. She also pointed out that the workers at the plant hire firm hosting the speech were not invited to attend, then cut to a voxpop in town, featuring people who had no idea she was visiting.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Thu 01 Jun, 2017 10:51 pm

http://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/prime-m ... story.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Thu 01 Jun, 2017 10:55 pm

Goodnight, everyone
love,
cJA

Post by **adam** » Thu 01 Jun, 2017 11:06 pm

PorFavor wrote:
NonOxCol wrote:SHOUT OUT TO JILL STEIN AND SUSAN SARANDON.

And every other false equivalence moron out there.
You've lost me.

I'm guessing it's a 'they're just the same, if not Bernie then nobody' thing.

NonOxCol · Post by **NonOxCol** » Thu 01 Jun, 2017 11:12 pm

Harbinger:

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NonOxCol · Post by **NonOxCol** » Thu 01 Jun, 2017 11:26 pm

Oh, it's not just Woman's Hour she's pulled out of either...

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Keep scrolling down. It just gets weirder.

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Thu 01 Jun, 2017 11:44 pm

...and

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Natalie Bloomer‏
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Conservative candidate is empty chaired at the Northampton South hustings tonight.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 02 Jun, 2017 12:04 am

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Happened to do my schooling at Peterhead Academy,known as Trotsky for some reason.A music teacher,an Elvis Costello look alike was in the Communist Party,interesting times.

Sky'sGoneOut · Post by **Sky'sGoneOut** » Fri 02 Jun, 2017 12:10 am

I've been away in the the middle of nowhere for a week. Are the polls still looking slightly less shit than expected?

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 02 Jun, 2017 12:23 am

Seem to be,particularly yougov,but questioning validity.I have already voted,Tories are hitting here hard May has been very near me a few times even though she didn't know where she was,which even I do at least most of the time.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 02 Jun, 2017 12:43 am

https://www.mumsnet.com/Talk/_chat/a294 ... sal-Credit" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The horror of Universal Credit

Mark’s story began when was diagnosed with terminal Cancer by a Macmillan Nurse at Guy’s Hospital. She told him to apply for fast track Employment Support Allowance (ESA) as he was not expected to live beyond 6 months. Due to the postcode lottery it turned out that he should have applied for Universal Credit (UC).

This took weeks to reveal itself and Mark had to live on very little money as he was self-employed but unable to work. Having struggled to complete 60 pages of the ESA form his efforts were wasted. Moreover ESA can be backdated to the date of diagnosis, but UC cannot. By the time Mark was able to start over with his UC claim his health had severely deteriorated and his concentration levels had become poor due to high levels of morphine medication. He sat next to me at my computer whilst I completed the form. In his condition, he was a bit befuddled with the incredible levels of detail required, but without completing all the mandatory boxes you can’t progress through the form. In short, the process is completely unsuitable for the physical and mental states of the people who have to use the system. In addition, you only have limited time to complete the form online before it shuts down and this requires you to start over.

The system then requires that the claimant is “verified” by Experian. According to Experian, Mark doesn’t exist, although he is very much still with me as I write this story. Several “helpline advisers” did not help, simply parroting the statement that they did not deal with online applications, although this was the number given on the UC website. Mark was asked to take his identity documents to a Job Centre, quite a trial for a man who had not been out or, indeed, off his bed for over a fortnight, stick thin and sleeping most of the time. I was told that, without verification, his claim would not go through. After verification of his terminal illness had finally taken place, I thought all was well and he had fast tracked his claim. How wrong I was. The following day, Mark was told that his claim could only be processed once he had completed a to-do task and that once again he needed to verify his ID online. His first payment, if his claim is accepted, will be on the 24th June, months after he needed the money to live his final months in some level of comfort and dignity.
“It is shameful – the hallmark of an advanced democracy is in how it treats its vulnerable people and I have been let down by the system”

But, Mark’s story does not stop there. Mark subsequently found out that he has to have a “Fitness to Work” telephone interview. I called the Universal Credit Work Coach to ask if she was aware that he is terminally ill and has difficulty speaking as he has mouth cancer. She said she did but said it still had to be done. I cannot think of any words that express my contempt for her callous and emotionally bankrupt approach to Mark’s predicament.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 02 Jun, 2017 1:54 am

" There's a bloke on our street pretending to be dying of cancer"