Thursday 1st June 2017

Post by **refitman** » Thu 01 Jun, 2017 6:58 am

Morning all.

tinybgoat · Post by **tinybgoat** » Thu 01 Jun, 2017 8:38 am

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RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Thu 01 Jun, 2017 9:42 am

Morning all.

Oh dear me...

StephenDolan · Post by **StephenDolan** » Thu 01 Jun, 2017 9:45 am

RogerOThornhill wrote:Morning all.

Oh dear me...

I'm very clear that I am not answering the question.

gilsey · Post by **gilsey** » Thu 01 Jun, 2017 9:47 am

There's a lot of right-wing media types tweeting that.

When I saw we were off to a slow start this morning, I wondered if we were all stunned into silence by the sheer ineptitude of May and the tory campaign. Beyond our wildest dreams.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Thu 01 Jun, 2017 9:50 am

Good morfternoon.

This, from the writer and comedian Armando Iannucci, is quite fun.

Armando Iannucci (@Aiannucci)

So far, the only person Theresa May has debated on TV is her husband.
June 1, 2017

(Politics Live, Guardian)

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Thu 01 Jun, 2017 10:01 am

I notice that May did the old "I debate Jeremy Corbyn every week in the Commons" line - no, he asked questions - you just sneered at him. That's not a debate.

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Thu 01 Jun, 2017 10:08 am

The attempts by the Currant Bun and Torygraph to pretend Jez bombed in last night's debate are hilarious even by their normally debased standards.

I mean, even some of their own readers must be smelling a rat by now?

StephenDolan · Post by **StephenDolan** » Thu 01 Jun, 2017 10:13 am

AnatolyKasparov wrote:The attempts by the Currant Bun and Torygraph to pretend Jez bombed in last night's debate are hilarious even by their normally debased standards.

I mean, even some of their own readers must be smelling a rat by now?

No real interest in politics by the former, cognitive dissonance is strong in the latter.

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Thu 01 Jun, 2017 10:16 am

And can somebody tell me how on earth Tom Harris ever got to be a LABOUR party MP??

gilsey · Post by **gilsey** » Thu 01 Jun, 2017 10:26 am

Has everyone seen Krishnan G-M with DD?
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HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Thu 01 Jun, 2017 10:35 am

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NonOxCol · Post by **NonOxCol** » Thu 01 Jun, 2017 10:39 am

AnatolyKasparov wrote:The attempts by the Currant Bun and Torygraph to pretend Jez bombed in last night's debate are hilarious even by their normally debased standards.

I mean, even some of their own readers must be smelling a rat by now?

Apparently Norman Smith has argued (on Victoria Live) that the best performers were Caroline Lucas and, obviously, Amber Rudd.

StephenDolan · Post by **StephenDolan** » Thu 01 Jun, 2017 10:43 am

NonOxCol wrote:
AnatolyKasparov wrote:The attempts by the Currant Bun and Torygraph to pretend Jez bombed in last night's debate are hilarious even by their normally debased standards.

I mean, even some of their own readers must be smelling a rat by now?
Apparently Norman Smith has argued (on Victoria Live) that the best performers were Caroline Lucas and, obviously, Amber Rudd.

I did like Debbie Abrahams tweeting immediately back to Norman Smith. Let's see what he does!

NonOxCol · Post by **NonOxCol** » Thu 01 Jun, 2017 12:19 pm

How low can they go?

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NonOxCol · Post by **NonOxCol** » Thu 01 Jun, 2017 12:41 pm

Oh DEAR:

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citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Thu 01 Jun, 2017 12:42 pm

Good-afternoon, everyone

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Thu 01 Jun, 2017 12:42 pm

Nigel Farage is 'person of interest' in FBI investigation into Trump and Russia

Exclusive: FBI interested in former Ukip leader’s ties with people connected to US president and WikiLeaks’ Julian Assange (Guardian)

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... and-russia

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Thu 01 Jun, 2017 12:43 pm

@NonOxCol

Snap!

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Thu 01 Jun, 2017 12:45 pm

China and EU strengthen commitment to Paris deal with US poised to step away

Beijing and Brussels to set up new alliance to reduce global carbon emissions as Donald Trump says he will announce decision later on Thursday (Guardian)

https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... -agreement

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Thu 01 Jun, 2017 12:46 pm

Farage is likely sincerely thrilled

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Thu 01 Jun, 2017 12:50 pm

Theresa May in Middlesbrough (Sky TV News).

She's certainly slapped on the, um, slap.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Thu 01 Jun, 2017 12:58 pm

She's over-acting. Dreadful.

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Thu 01 Jun, 2017 1:15 pm

Good poll for Labour in London - 17 point lead.

SpinningHugo · Post by **SpinningHugo** » Thu 01 Jun, 2017 1:25 pm

The Economist backs the Lib Dems

http://www.economist.com/news/leaders/2 ... /te/bl/ed/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Thu 01 Jun, 2017 1:32 pm

Please accept my thanks, FlyTheNesters, for your consistent loving-kindness, empathy, attention and friendship offered me.
You're some of the best friends I've ever known and I'll not forget you.
I'm not going away; I earnestly thank you, that's all.

- cJA

gilsey · Post by **gilsey** » Thu 01 Jun, 2017 1:41 pm

PorFavor wrote:Theresa May in Middlesbrough (Sky TV News).

She's certainly slapped on the, um, slap.

Guisborough, it's just down the road, from M'bro and from us. Blenkinsop was the MP and has stood down so the tories fancy it. Unlike Hartlepool, I have no prediction to offer.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Thu 01 Jun, 2017 1:53 pm

Other than the fact that she's in Middlesbrough, I missed the detail of where in Middlesbrough, and who she was addressing. Anyone here know, please? Or is it a secret?

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Thu 01 Jun, 2017 2:23 pm

PorFavor wrote:Other than the fact that she's in Middlesbrough, I missed the detail of where in Middlesbrough, and who she was addressing. Anyone here know, please? Or is it a secret?

Let me clear, May is in Middlesbrough

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Thu 01 Jun, 2017 2:24 pm

@PorFavor
No, I don't know where in Middlesbrough

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Thu 01 Jun, 2017 2:39 pm

Speech at CJ Leonard and Sons,Guisborough.Middlesborough South and East Cleveland const.as referenced above by gilsey.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Thu 01 Jun, 2017 2:47 pm

HindleA wrote:Speech at CJ Leonard and Sons,Guisborough.Middlesborough South and East Cleveland const.as referenced above by gilsey.

Thanks. And apologies to gilsey for not paying attention!

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Thu 01 Jun, 2017 2:48 pm

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PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Thu 01 Jun, 2017 2:52 pm

HindleA wrote:https://www.cjleonard.co.uk

Plant hire. That must be where she's been getting the "plants" for her audiences.

Edited - typo

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Thu 01 Jun, 2017 2:57 pm

SpinningHugo wrote:The Economist backs the Lib Dems

http://www.economist.com/news/leaders/2 ... /te/bl/ed/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

As part of a trial run for some zombie elitist "centrist" party. Ugh.

Still, their description of Farron as "left wing" provided a moment of levity.

NonOxCol · Post by **NonOxCol** » Thu 01 Jun, 2017 3:04 pm

May eviscerated by Dunt on her Brexit nonsense here:

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(even he has managed to acknowledge that Labour are 'improving' in this area).

Post by **adam** » Thu 01 Jun, 2017 3:53 pm

Went leafleting and canvassing yesterday in what should be a fairly safe seat (held with 5000 majority last time, only voted tory once ever) but which local party are twitchy about. (Little point in doing much election work at home - this was in my 'work' seat). Good feedback on the whole - people were either 'I never vote' or 'of course I'm voting labour'. One woman very reticent to talk about it until we realised that I used to teach her son and then we were fine. There is an 'I'm labour but I'm not voting for Corbyn' feeling in the constituency but it is dwindling a little - earlier more people were saying it, now more of those are grudgingly and a bit unhappily saying they'll vote labour anyway.

gilsey · Post by **gilsey** » Thu 01 Jun, 2017 4:25 pm

HindleA wrote:https://www.cjleonard.co.uk

That isn't even in Guisborough, it's 3-4 miles outside. She really is terrified of meeting people.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Thu 01 Jun, 2017 4:40 pm

Went by information below Guardian pics

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Thu 01 Jun, 2017 5:13 pm

Surprised!

Christopher Hope ‏Verified account @christopherhope 6m6 minutes ago
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BREAKING Theresa May has refused to appear on @BBCRadio4's Woman's Hour tomorrow morning. She is sending Justine Greening.

Me, me, me! It's all about me and my party...until it isn't.

NonOxCol · Post by **NonOxCol** » Thu 01 Jun, 2017 5:30 pm

Can't link Twitter from my phone, but I urge everyone to look at a thread by one Huw Lemmey (@huwlemmey).

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Thu 01 Jun, 2017 5:54 pm

Have said it before, never expecting to have the opportunity to say it again, but there really isn't enough owl-waxing going on these days.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Thu 01 Jun, 2017 5:59 pm

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RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Thu 01 Jun, 2017 6:47 pm

Worth reading.

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tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Thu 01 Jun, 2017 7:00 pm

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Public concern over NHS surges to highest level in 15 years, poll finds
Warnings over health service 'seem to be cutting through with the public', experts say

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Thu 01 Jun, 2017 7:06 pm

May's hairstyle resembles mine in about 1972,as ever I was ahead of my time.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Thu 01 Jun, 2017 7:13 pm

Do they still sell those scrape you skull to bits razor in plastic things?Still bear the scars,resorted to pretending to faint to avoid,which even then didn't work.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Thu 01 Jun, 2017 7:18 pm

I'm very 'rexit Master Copperfield.

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HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Thu 01 Jun, 2017 7:20 pm

TC2 doing the delete to think you are seeing things,plus edited return.Very good

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Thu 01 Jun, 2017 7:28 pm

HindleA wrote:TC2 doing the delete to think you are seeing things,plus edited return.Very good

Learning from the master (in exchange for seethe training)