Friday June 9th 2017

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Fri 09 Jun, 2017 9:11 am

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tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Fri 09 Jun, 2017 9:13 am

bollocks

NonOxCol · Post by **NonOxCol** » Fri 09 Jun, 2017 9:16 am

She really has learned nothing...

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RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Fri 09 Jun, 2017 9:18 am

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Very impressed if it's true that the Prime Minister has decided to soldier on. In these circumstances, that takes real courage.

And those circumstances - whose fault were they exactly? Berk.

Post by **adam** » Fri 09 Jun, 2017 9:19 am

tinyclanger2 wrote:DUP - TM might find it difficult to survive (reported via Keunssberg)

It's a quote from the leader of the DUP, Arlene Foster. When it comes to the political classes talking about how it's difficult to see how a leader can survive, she should know.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Fri 09 Jun, 2017 9:21 am

~~Uriah~~ Jeremy Hunt says he's humbled.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Fri 09 Jun, 2017 9:22 am

Tony Travis (LSE) suggesting Labour might have 50% of votes in the future British Republic of that London

Post by **adam** » Fri 09 Jun, 2017 9:22 am

tinyclanger2 wrote:~~Uriah~~ Jeremy Hunt says he's humbled.

Humbled (Adj. - Covered in entrails)

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Fri 09 Jun, 2017 9:23 am

Simeon Harman‏ @VoteGreenHarman 2m2 minutes ago
#GE2017 is a sign we are not owned by the billionaire's newspapers. We are smarter and better informed then they want us to be.

I try not to be optimistic but I'll briefly enjoy this notion

NonOxCol · Post by **NonOxCol** » Fri 09 Jun, 2017 9:24 am

RogerOThornhill wrote:
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Very impressed if it's true that the Prime Minister has decided to soldier on. In these circumstances, that takes real courage.

And those circumstances - whose fault were they exactly? Berk.

Ever reliable barometer of what not to think. Anyone badgering him about the £3 thing today at all, by any chance?

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Fri 09 Jun, 2017 9:24 am

posh sounding bloke interviewed in the street in London describes May as "rather arrogant and stupid"

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Fri 09 Jun, 2017 9:25 am

adam wrote:
tinyclanger2 wrote:~~Uriah~~ Jeremy Hunt says he's humbled.
Humbled (Adj. - Covered in entrails)

Does sound more likely than the popular interpretation

NonOxCol · Post by **NonOxCol** » Fri 09 Jun, 2017 9:28 am

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36% to 72% in a year, apparently. Stunning.

NonOxCol · Post by **NonOxCol** » Fri 09 Jun, 2017 9:32 am

Another barometer speaks:

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Who called the election after triggering A50, you inconceivably stupid, ignorant woman?

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 09 Jun, 2017 9:35 am

#MartinRowson

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AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Fri 09 Jun, 2017 9:35 am

tinyclanger2 wrote:Louise Bakes @LouiseBakes 2m2 minutes ago
36% of 18-24 voted in EU Ref. 72% voted in the General Election. How very telling. #GE2017 #theirfuture

Sorry, but that first stat is nonsense (even though it - wrongly - got some publicity immediately afterwards) Youth turnout in the EU referendum was almost two thirds, one thing that made Labour people optimistic they could get a significant increase this time. But 72% is amazing

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 09 Jun, 2017 9:39 am

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AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Fri 09 Jun, 2017 9:41 am

NonOxCol wrote:Mood keeps slipping - just found out that my MP, Mr Candy Crush of Amber Valley, managed to win over half the bleeding vote this time!

Labour had its worst results in seats like yours.

Not sure what can be done about it right now, though their finally realising May won't give them their fabled "best Brexit" might help them come round.

NonOxCol · Post by **NonOxCol** » Fri 09 Jun, 2017 9:42 am

AnatolyKasparov wrote:
tinyclanger2 wrote:Louise Bakes @LouiseBakes 2m2 minutes ago
36% of 18-24 voted in EU Ref. 72% voted in the General Election. How very telling. #GE2017 #theirfuture
Sorry, but that first stat is nonsense (even though it - wrongly - got some publicity immediately afterwards) Youth turnout in the EU referendum was almost two thirds, one thing that made Labour people optimistic they could get a significant increase this time. But 72% is amazing

Ah, ok, thanks. Thought we could rely on you.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 09 Jun, 2017 9:42 am

#Chris Mason

The Conservative MP for Reigate, Crispin Blunt: "the electorate plainly have got it wrong"

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 09 Jun, 2017 9:43 am

I moved from there to here to escape,little did I know.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 09 Jun, 2017 9:45 am

It was over twenty years ago,to be fair.

yahyah · Post by **yahyah** » Fri 09 Jun, 2017 9:47 am

HindleA wrote:I moved from there to here to escape,little did I know.

NonOxCol · Post by **NonOxCol** » Fri 09 Jun, 2017 9:47 am

AnatolyKasparov wrote:
NonOxCol wrote:Mood keeps slipping - just found out that my MP, Mr Candy Crush of Amber Valley, managed to win over half the bleeding vote this time!
Labour had its worst results in seats like yours.

Not sure what can be done about it right now, though their finally realising May won't give them their fabled "best Brexit" might help them come round.

But Broxtowe borders both us and Erewash, and yet the swing there was way way different. I really don't get that. Is it a load of Leavers ganging up on (the over-rated centrist darling) Soubry, or what?

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Fri 09 Jun, 2017 9:49 am

Tory bloke on BBC saying that they were forced to stop their planned campaign (slagging off Labour) in order to talk about their own policies.

Says it all really.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 09 Jun, 2017 9:49 am

(George Gardiner)

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 09 Jun, 2017 9:53 am

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Weak and unstable comment.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Fri 09 Jun, 2017 9:57 am

Donald Tusk ✔ @eucopresident
We don't know when Brexit talks start. We know when they must end. Do your best to avoid a "no deal" as result of "no negotiations". #GE2017

Doesn't look like EU trying to delay - surely couldn't be May talking bollocks?

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BREAK Theresa May is likely to stay on as Prime Minister because she does not want to allow Brussels to delay Brexit talks, Tory sources say

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 09 Jun, 2017 10:09 am

Bow group calls for leadership election.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 09 Jun, 2017 10:11 am

Kensington might go on until tomorrow

NonOxCol · Post by **NonOxCol** » Fri 09 Jun, 2017 10:12 am

An irredeemable bellend writes:

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NonOxCol · Post by **NonOxCol** » Fri 09 Jun, 2017 10:12 am

I mean, as tweets go, that is an open goal given his bloody catchphrase.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 09 Jun, 2017 10:14 am

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Tory MPs have been evicted from their seats for not taking housing seriously
Dawn Foster

NonOxCol · Post by **NonOxCol** » Fri 09 Jun, 2017 10:17 am

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Wow. May to Palace at 12:30pm, believing she can form a government.

Cameron actually beating someone in the dignity stakes.

pk1 · Post by **pk1** » Fri 09 Jun, 2017 10:18 am

May is off to see the Queen later.

What happens if she can't get agreement with DUP & Corbyn can't get agreement with LD, SNP & others ?

NonOxCol · Post by **NonOxCol** » Fri 09 Jun, 2017 10:18 am

Well, this really is an amazing graph. In a good way.

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Post by **adam** » Fri 09 Jun, 2017 10:24 am

pk1 wrote:May is off to see the Queen later.

What happens if she can't get agreement with DUP & Corbyn can't get agreement with LD, SNP & others ?

She bluffs it out until she does or doesn't get a Queen's Speech and Budget through the commons.

Edited to add - and then Labour would have to be allowed to have a go - and then they'd look around and see if there was any other possibility - and then there would have to be another election.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 09 Jun, 2017 10:26 am

Right that is sorted,can't think why I didn't think of it before,I've moved boundary sign so now back in Labour terrority.

Post by **adam** » Fri 09 Jun, 2017 10:26 am

The point about 'Gordon Brown 2010 Territory' is that she is the Prime Minister and she's entitled to try to get a programme vote passed in the commons. Whether it's right to charge ahead without any surety of getting there, given that we should have a government focussed on negotiating with the EU, is another question.

Post by **adam** » Fri 09 Jun, 2017 10:27 am

She's done a deal with the DUP- story here

NonOxCol · Post by **NonOxCol** » Fri 09 Jun, 2017 10:32 am

Cameron was just a short-termist, hubristic idiot. This woman is an actual monster.

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pk1 · Post by **pk1** » Fri 09 Jun, 2017 10:33 am

adam wrote:
pk1 wrote:May is off to see the Queen later.

What happens if she can't get agreement with DUP & Corbyn can't get agreement with LD, SNP & others ?
She bluffs it out until she does or doesn't get a Queen's Speech and Budget through the commons.

Edited to add - and then Labour would have to be allowed to have a go - and then they'd look around and see if there was any other possibility - andthen there would have to be another election.

I'd have to hibernate - don't think I can face another election so soon

NonOxCol · Post by **NonOxCol** » Fri 09 Jun, 2017 10:34 am

The DUP’s ‘price’ for propping up a new Conservative government will include a promise that there would be no post-Brexit special status for Northern Ireland, the party’s leader in Westminster has confirmed.
Nigel Dodds, re-elected as North Belfast MP, said that among their preconditions would be an insistence that there was no separate deal that would effectively keep the region with one foot still inside the EU.

I'm sorry for the language, but to stop me from saying it outright:

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Willow904 · Post by **Willow904** » Fri 09 Jun, 2017 10:35 am

Morning.

Haven't had much sleep so will only add a few words of muddled thought at this point.

Some may remember that I said that it didn't matter by how much Theresa May won by, if she got a majority of any description she would have won a mandate for hard Brexit and two extra years to make it stick. So I'm obviously very happy this morning because she hasn't won a majority and there is no mandate to take us out of the single market. Really happy to see Labour MPs returned ( especially Clive Lewis ) and that younger voters have worked out how to vote. Heaven knows what comes next, I'm not good at predictions, my only one being that Rees-Mogg would be returned locally, but not a hard one to predict, let's face it!

Sorry that HindleA's prediction their constituency would turn blue came to pass. Thanks for all the comments overnight, have just finished catching them up now. Much more enjoyable experience than 2 years ago!

pk1 · Post by **pk1** » Fri 09 Jun, 2017 10:37 am

Nuttall resigns as Ukip leader

Post by **adam** » Fri 09 Jun, 2017 10:41 am

Two years ago, the UK stood out as a beacon of political stability and economic success.

Guess who?

Post by **adam** » Fri 09 Jun, 2017 10:41 am

pk1 wrote: I'd have to hibernate

How will we tell?

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Fri 09 Jun, 2017 10:46 am

Good-morning, everyone

pk1 · Post by **pk1** » Fri 09 Jun, 2017 10:46 am

adam wrote:
pk1 wrote: I'd have to hibernate
How will we tell?

Miaow !

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Fri 09 Jun, 2017 10:46 am

I've got to catch up on the thread