Wednesday 14th June 2017

AngryAsWell · Post by **AngryAsWell** » Wed 14 Jun, 2017 6:23 pm

Tory MP who lost seat messages former constituent on Facebook to call him a 'thick chav'
Facebook user was surprised to receive the unsolicited abusive messages on Monday night

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yahyah · Post by **yahyah** » Wed 14 Jun, 2017 6:28 pm

Tim Farron is quitting according to Paul Waugh on Twitter.

AngryAsWell · Post by **AngryAsWell** » Wed 14 Jun, 2017 6:29 pm

yahyah wrote:Tim Farron is quitting according to Paul Waugh on Twitter.

On R4 as well..

SpinningHugo · Post by **SpinningHugo** » Wed 14 Jun, 2017 6:33 pm

yahyah wrote:Tim Farron is quitting according to Paul Waugh on Twitter.

A lightweight politician, never suited for the role.

Front rank politics is populated by pygmies.

NonOxCol · Post by **NonOxCol** » Wed 14 Jun, 2017 6:39 pm

AngryAsWell wrote:Tory MP who lost seat messages former constituent on Facebook to call him a 'thick chav'
Facebook user was surprised to receive the unsolicited abusive messages on Monday night

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 90296.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Gosh, I nearly fainted when I saw who that former MP was. Whoever would have thought it?

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Wed 14 Jun, 2017 6:41 pm

Does that mean that Brian Paddick will have to unresign?

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Wed 14 Jun, 2017 6:50 pm

NonOxCol has come over all unnecessary!

Edited to add -

(Or, rather, hasn't. Just in case you think I missed the point.)

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Wed 14 Jun, 2017 6:51 pm

PorFavor wrote:
Architect Sam Webb says breaches of fire safety standards in UK are common and lessons from Lakanal House have not been learned

“I really don’t think the building industry understands how fire behaves in buildings and how dangerous it can be. The government’s mania for deregulation means our current safety standards just aren’t good enough.” (Guardian - my emphasis)
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/201 ... wer-blocks

No kidding
I think the smoke detectors in our flat work
it's an old block
not all that high
a couple neighbours frequently are

Can we stop the Tory hydraulic fracturing, please
It's not going to be their water supply poisoned

AngryAsWell · Post by **AngryAsWell** » Wed 14 Jun, 2017 6:54 pm

aniel Hannan‏Verified account
@DanielJHannan

One last point. The Conservative Party has never pretended to be neutral about the status of Northern Ireland. We are pro-Union.

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(Not the pro union bit - the never pretended to be neutral bit)

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Wed 14 Jun, 2017 7:01 pm

Queen's Speech back on for Monday? (Guardian) This is as close to feeling sorry for the Quing as I'm ever likely to get.

AngryAsWell · Post by **AngryAsWell** » Wed 14 Jun, 2017 7:12 pm

Not seen this any where else

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Jim Waterson‏Verified account @jimwaterson 43s43 seconds ago
More
Shadow cabinet appointments:
Scotland: Lesley Laird
Northern Ireland: Owen Smith
Diverse Communities: Dawn Butler
Party Chair: Ian Lavery

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Wed 14 Jun, 2017 7:16 pm

Owen Smith Shadow Sec State for Northern Ireland
Peace, wonderful peace

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Wed 14 Jun, 2017 7:17 pm

SpinningHugo wrote:
yahyah wrote:Tim Farron is quitting according to Paul Waugh on Twitter.

A lightweight politician, never suited for the role.

Front rank politics is populated by pygmies.

I thought he would be better at it than he actually was, tbh.

Labour electing Corbyn as leader seemed to leave him totally lost, he never really recovered.

SpinningHugo · Post by **SpinningHugo** » Wed 14 Jun, 2017 7:22 pm

AngryAsWell wrote:Not seen this any where else

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Jim Waterson‏Verified account @jimwaterson 43s43 seconds ago
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Shadow cabinet appointments:
Scotland: Lesley Laird
Northern Ireland: Owen Smith
Diverse Communities: Dawn Butler
Party Chair: Ian Lavery

He didn't have to reach out. So he didn't. The PLP would have behaved no differently if the positions were reversed.

AngryAsWell · Post by **AngryAsWell** » Wed 14 Jun, 2017 7:27 pm

I really, really do despair

Deborah Boschman‏
@Manitobagal

Replying to @shadowwraiths
R the owners Muslims? Had the fire been planned since this time? London is @ war! Everyone, everywhere is a target 4 these hateful killers

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citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Wed 14 Jun, 2017 7:33 pm

I didn't have the courage to look at the London story until Mr citizen came home
I'm so sorry
a terrible thing

edited to add
I didn't read the eyewitness accounts until now

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Wed 14 Jun, 2017 7:33 pm

SpinningHugo wrote:
AngryAsWell wrote:Not seen this any where else

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Jim Waterson‏Verified account @jimwaterson 43s43 seconds ago
More
Shadow cabinet appointments:
Scotland: Lesley Laird
Northern Ireland: Owen Smith
Diverse Communities: Dawn Butler
Party Chair: Ian Lavery

He didn't have to reach out. So he didn't. The PLP would have behaved no differently if the positions were reversed.

Owen Smith modestly suggests otherwise, and most appointments haven't been announced yet.

Does anybody know anything about Laird (save that she isn't Ian Murray)?

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Wed 14 Jun, 2017 7:38 pm

AnatolyKasparov wrote:Owen Smith modestly suggests otherwise, and most appointments haven't been announced yet.

Does anybody know anything about Laird (save that she isn't Ian Murray)?

Lesley Laird will be the new shadow Scottish secretary

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... ow-cabinet" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

AngryAsWell · Post by **AngryAsWell** » Wed 14 Jun, 2017 7:38 pm

AnatolyKasparov wrote:
SpinningHugo wrote:
AngryAsWell wrote:Not seen this any where else

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Jim Waterson‏Verified account @jimwaterson 43s43 seconds ago
More
Shadow cabinet appointments:
Scotland: Lesley Laird
Northern Ireland: Owen Smith
Diverse Communities: Dawn Butler
Party Chair: Ian Lavery

He didn't have to reach out. So he didn't. The PLP would have behaved no differently if the positions were reversed.
Owen Smith modestly suggests otherwise, and most appointments haven't been announced yet.

Does anybody know anything about Laird (save that she isn't Ian Murray)?

Only what Wiki says

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HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Wed 14 Jun, 2017 7:41 pm

http://www.lesleylaird.com" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Wed 14 Jun, 2017 7:45 pm

http://www.economist.com/blogs/speakers ... /te/bl/ed/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Wed 14 Jun, 2017 7:47 pm

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/201 ... -published" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Wed 14 Jun, 2017 7:49 pm

Married to Cammell,I believe.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Wed 14 Jun, 2017 8:03 pm

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... are_btn_tw" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Wed 14 Jun, 2017 8:07 pm

Keeley continues.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Wed 14 Jun, 2017 8:13 pm

Mental Health and Social Care,for anybody not interested.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Wed 14 Jun, 2017 8:25 pm

National Clean Air Day,tomorrow.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Wed 14 Jun, 2017 8:30 pm

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/201 ... wer-blocks" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Wed 14 Jun, 2017 8:33 pm

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... are_btn_tw" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Wed 14 Jun, 2017 8:37 pm

AngryAsWell · Post by **AngryAsWell** » Wed 14 Jun, 2017 8:39 pm

Paul Slatter‏
@paulgslatter

Boris Johnson, then Mayor of London, telling London Assembly member to 'get stuffed' in response to questions on cuts in fire service, 2013

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citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Wed 14 Jun, 2017 8:40 pm

HindleA wrote:http://www.economist.com/blogs/speakers ... /te/bl/ed/

Commentator elsewhere below the line disgusted with Labour's, 'inflated vote share'
Apparently, young people didn't understand or think ill of 'red menaces' or something

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Wed 14 Jun, 2017 8:43 pm

http://www.onlondon.co.uk/comment-dont- ... ower-fire/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Wed 14 Jun, 2017 8:48 pm

HindleA wrote:http://www.onlondon.co.uk/comment-dont- ... ower-fire/

Built around 1974, eh?
About the same era as the flat Mr citizen and I live
fortunately, not an upgrade ever done

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Wed 14 Jun, 2017 8:51 pm

'soviet gray' I call the flooring colour
and composition

SpinningHugo · Post by **SpinningHugo** » Wed 14 Jun, 2017 8:52 pm

AnatolyKasparov wrote:
SpinningHugo wrote:
AngryAsWell wrote:Not seen this any where else

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Jim Waterson‏Verified account @jimwaterson 43s43 seconds ago
More
Shadow cabinet appointments:
Scotland: Lesley Laird
Northern Ireland: Owen Smith
Diverse Communities: Dawn Butler
Party Chair: Ian Lavery

He didn't have to reach out. So he didn't. The PLP would have behaved no differently if the positions were reversed.

Owen Smith modestly suggests otherwise, and most appointments haven't been announced yet.

Does anybody know anything about Laird (save that she isn't Ian Murray)?

Putting Owen Smith in the Northern Ireland slot shows Milne has a sense of humour. Nothing more.

Abbott stays, as I said.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Wed 14 Jun, 2017 8:53 pm

'94 mine,still looking for land to transfer brick by brick,they found the signpost and moved it back.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Wed 14 Jun, 2017 8:54 pm

Smith worked in the NI office previously.

NonOxCol · Post by **NonOxCol** » Wed 14 Jun, 2017 8:56 pm

It is possible that Theresa May responded more quickly to the Cadbury Easter egg hunt nonsense than she did to Grenfell Tower.

Certainly feels that way.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Wed 14 Jun, 2017 8:57 pm

Mine was church land,now having all the paperwork I find it interesting.

SpinningHugo · Post by **SpinningHugo** » Wed 14 Jun, 2017 8:59 pm

AnatolyKasparov wrote:
SpinningHugo wrote:
yahyah wrote:Tim Farron is quitting according to Paul Waugh on Twitter.

A lightweight politician, never suited for the role.

Front rank politics is populated by pygmies.
I thought he would be better at it than he actually was, tbh.

Labour electing Corbyn as leader seemed to leave him totally lost, he never really recovered.

Yes. The tactic had been to position the party to the left of Labour in the way that worked for Chucky Bum, but that was closed off.

The Remain tactic looked like a winner, until it became apparent that almost nobody gave a shit about the most important issue by far because they didn't understand it.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Wed 14 Jun, 2017 9:03 pm

Just saw Theresa May interviewed on TV. Sombre and vague. Then the interviewer interposed a question on the DUP talks. A smile and a laugh (she just about managed not to sing "tra-la-la") and then a sudden remembrance that she was supposed to be being sombre. Dire.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Wed 14 Jun, 2017 9:06 pm

I ran through the Brandenburgh gates shortly after reunifiation rememberance jogged by mention of Soviet style architecture

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Wed 14 Jun, 2017 9:06 pm

HindleA wrote:Mine was church land,now having all the paperwork I find it interesting.

That does sound interesting

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Wed 14 Jun, 2017 9:08 pm

Not compared to most,given it was a new home,but personally so.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Wed 14 Jun, 2017 9:09 pm

HindleA wrote:I ran through the Brandenburgh gates shortly after reunifiation rememberance jogged by mention of Soviet style architecture

Brilliant

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Wed 14 Jun, 2017 9:13 pm

NonOxCol wrote:It is possible that Theresa May responded more quickly to the Cadbury Easter egg hunt nonsense than she did to Grenfell Tower.

Certainly feels that way.

Didn't she give a job to the Tory housing failure who'd lost his seat in her disastrous attempt to secure a mandate?

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Wed 14 Jun, 2017 9:13 pm

Usual caveat as regards "running".

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Wed 14 Jun, 2017 9:15 pm

Re Grenfell Tower -

The absence of the council on the street as hundreds of families were homeless was concerning, said Judith Bakeman, a Labour councillor at Kensington and Chelsea. “There’s been so many cuts, there aren’t enough people to deal with this.”

Referring to Notting Hill Methodist church’s Rev Mike Long, she said: “Mike has been running this centre giving people food and water all day and not a single person from the council has been here.”

As we spoke, a volunteer from the Harrow Club and Latimer AP Academy came to tell the councillor she had 138 beds available. He said that no one official had been to the centre and he didn’t know what to do with that information.

Updated at 9.07pm BST
(Guardian)

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/liv ... timer-road

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Wed 14 Jun, 2017 9:19 pm

strong and stable