Friday 23rd June 2017

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 23 Jun, 2017 6:00 pm

http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/we ... ildren?amp" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 23 Jun, 2017 6:13 pm

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/alle ... aths-paper" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Allegations of malpractice in Edexcel's C4 maths paper

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 23 Jun, 2017 6:22 pm

https://redbrickblog.wordpress.com/2017 ... ty-crisis/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Tenants and the homeless must not be made to pay for the tower block fire safety crisis

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 23 Jun, 2017 6:39 pm

citizenJA wrote:
HindleA wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/201 ... enefit-cap
Will the former residents of Grenfell be able to afford rent increases?

As per usual" "DHP expectation"

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 23 Jun, 2017 7:15 pm

Buggered up crossword thread elsewhere with too cryptic cryptic clue,again.On a different wavelength to people on a different wavelength is disconcerting.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Fri 23 Jun, 2017 7:19 pm

"The Britons were endlessly lied to and deceived," Schaeuble told a conference according to Reuters. When the Brexit campaigners "happened to be successful, the ones who did it ran away because they said they can't take responsibility". In the days after the vote, Prime Minister David Cameron, who called the referendum, resigned, and several prominent leave campaigners dropped out of the race to succeed him.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-06-2 ... ved-brexit" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Post by **refitman** » Fri 23 Jun, 2017 7:21 pm

adam wrote:
citizenJA wrote:
PorFavor wrote:What's going on with the DUP deal? I wonder if the DUP themselves initiated the idea (ie threatened to withold their usual support if they didn't get some sort of pay-off) on account of Theresa May's incredibly weakened position.
Is that even legal?
I understand it's an MPs' job to represent their constituencies and use their time in office getting what communities need.
'If our community isn't given special funding, we'll not support you in government' - is an altogether different thing, isn't it? Have I misunderstood? I may very well have done.
I don't think many laws apply to what goes in in parliament. Individual MPs are elected as representatives of their communities, to use their judgement or otherwise on how to act and are not delegates, and are not delegated to act in a certain way (the idea being that if they don't represent their constituents to their constituents' content then they'll be voted out).

If the DUP's membership don't like what their party is doing they can kick up a stink but that seems very unlikely. The DUP can ask for whatever they want from the government. The issue won't be whether they're allowed to, it will be how much the government give them, and how much it pisses off the other nations/regions and so on.

I caught the very end of QT last night and someone asked, if the DUP are going to get NI £2bn for supporting the Tories, can Devon & Cornwall get £4bn for their 16 MPs, if they support the government?

Post by **refitman** » Fri 23 Jun, 2017 7:24 pm

I then made the mistake of watching This Week. Had some woman who was one The Apprentice, banging on about "left wing thugs in balaclavas", Alan Johnson having another pop at Corbyn and Momentum and Mel Philips (I didn't watch that). It says a lot when the best part of your program is Richard Madley doing the weekly round-up.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Fri 23 Jun, 2017 7:29 pm

refitman wrote:I then made the mistake of watching This Week. Had some woman who was one The Apprentice, banging on about "left wing thugs in balaclavas", Alan Johnson having another pop at Corbyn and Momentum and Mel Philips (I didn't watch that). It says a lot when the best part of your program is Richard Madley doing the weekly round-up.

Balaclavas? In this weather?

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 23 Jun, 2017 7:32 pm

Clotheist.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 23 Jun, 2017 7:39 pm

Letterbox doing the pretend something has been put me through me thing.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 23 Jun, 2017 7:47 pm

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... are_btn_tw" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Fascist lefty on the annniversary of the Brexit vote

55DegreesNorth · Post by **55DegreesNorth** » Fri 23 Jun, 2017 8:22 pm

Evening folks,
Courtesy of New Scientist, I happened on this site. It's very good, and I recommend watching the videos (each clip is only a few minutes, although there are loads). I think we should have this course on the national curriculum.
http://callingbullshit.org/index.html

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Fri 23 Jun, 2017 8:32 pm

Loathing if not fear for Brexit architects:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/ho ... 05466.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

brexit-architects-chart.jpg (23.61 KiB) Viewed 14455 times

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Fri 23 Jun, 2017 8:50 pm

@tinyclanger2

Surprised that Boris Johnson is still so popular! He should be at least level pegging with Nigel Farage.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 23 Jun, 2017 8:53 pm

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lo ... ws_central" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Camden flats to be evacuated over cladding

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 23 Jun, 2017 8:54 pm

He's an adulterous thug.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 23 Jun, 2017 8:55 pm

Censored.Too graphic.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Fri 23 Jun, 2017 8:56 pm

Camden flats to be evacuated over cladding

More than 800 homes in tower blocks on a council estate in Camden, north London, are be evacuated because of safety concerns over cladding in the aftermath of the Grenfell Tower fire.

Camden Council says residents in flats in five towers on the Chalcots estate will be moved for "urgent fire safety works". (BBC News website)

And private landlords are (voluntarily) on the case. No doubt.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-40389148

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Fri 23 Jun, 2017 9:05 pm

@HindleA

Whoops.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 23 Jun, 2017 9:10 pm

Bloody BBC repeats.

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Fri 23 Jun, 2017 9:13 pm

That's a truly........impressive.........figure for Govey there

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Fri 23 Jun, 2017 9:14 pm

isn't it just

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Fri 23 Jun, 2017 9:15 pm

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/n ... s-10674182" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Britain's biggest union tonight accuses the Brexit Minister of trying to weaken asbestos laws while he was a backbencher.

Unite highlighted a series of questions tabled by Steve Baker, who was last week handed a plum job negotiating the UK's exit from the EU, which it says prove he wants to water down health and safety protections.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 23 Jun, 2017 9:26 pm

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/201 ... are_btn_tw" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Two Shelter board members quit after Grenfell Tower fire
Chairman Sir Derek Myers and trustee Tony Rice resign amid internal disquiet over charity’s response to disaster

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Fri 23 Jun, 2017 9:33 pm

https://t.co/6Srx5yfDWc?amp=1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Fri 23 Jun, 2017 9:34 pm

http://www.france24.com/en/20170623-pol ... ce-germany" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Emmanuel Macron and Angela Merkel used the French president's first Brussels summit Friday to deliver an unmistakeable message: their countries intend to lead the EU's post-Brexit revival.

The Franco-German power couple held an unusual joint press conference after meeting their 26 European Union counterparts, against a backdrop of their respective flags and the bloc's blue banner with yellow stars.

Almost as if to say Britain (aka UK) were an irrelevance (!)

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Fri 23 Jun, 2017 9:36 pm

Donaeld The Unready‏ @donaeldunready 6h6 hours ago
More
https://hillforts.arch.ox.ac.uk/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; Some idiot mapped hillforts AND MADE AVAILABLE to all! Nice work losers, now Danes will know where we're hiding.

Excellent map. WOW.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Fri 23 Jun, 2017 9:49 pm

Am developing some kind of phobia about those weird stories you get in newspapers. Was originally taking the proverbial but now starting to react biochemically (fear). Such as:

Most shocking celebrity deaths of all time
Rare photos taken right before the most tragic moments struck
Susan Boyle lost so much weight. Her new look is mesmerising
Man asleep for 19 years wakes up and reveals the horrifying truth

What are they supposed to be?

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Fri 23 Jun, 2017 9:50 pm

(and why do they freak me out so much?)

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Fri 23 Jun, 2017 9:50 pm

Just to say I've got an overnight computer update. Wish me well. I may be gone for some time . . .

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Fri 23 Jun, 2017 9:54 pm

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/ho ... 04386.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Ed Miliband. Radio Star.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Fri 23 Jun, 2017 9:58 pm

We heard the buzz of the clippers.

“It’s not that different from using an electric shaver on oneself really,” Ed/Alan told the nation. “Except it’s a dog, obviously…”

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Fri 23 Jun, 2017 9:59 pm

PorFavor wrote:Just to say I've got an overnight computer update. Wish me well. I may be gone for some time . . .

commiserations and fingers crossed.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Fri 23 Jun, 2017 9:59 pm

Correction.

Ed Miliband. Star.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Fri 23 Jun, 2017 10:10 pm

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 05581.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
MPs from all parties are already planning an alliance to defeat Theresa May’s plans for a hard Brexit, just days into the new Parliament.

Would be interested in your views.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Fri 23 Jun, 2017 10:10 pm

Night night.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Fri 23 Jun, 2017 10:34 pm

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/o ... 58cc?ir=UK" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
When did we completely lose it as a species?

AngryAsWell · Post by **AngryAsWell** » Fri 23 Jun, 2017 10:34 pm

Anyone watching Sky and the evacuation of upto 800 residents from high rise flats due to safety concerns ?

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Fri 23 Jun, 2017 10:34 pm

HindleA wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/201 ... are_btn_tw

Two Shelter board members quit after Grenfell Tower fire
Chairman Sir Derek Myers and trustee Tony Rice resign amid internal disquiet over charity’s response to disaster

Shelter board members these guys...

"Myers is a former chief executive of Kensington and Chelsea council, which owns Grenfell Tower, while trustee Tony Rice is chairman of Xerxes Equity, the sole shareholder in Omnis Exteriors – the company that sold the cladding used in the tower."

christ

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Fri 23 Jun, 2017 10:36 pm

The Daily Mail blasts The Guardian for accusing it “without a shred of foundation of fanning the flames of Islamophobia and racism”. pic.twitter.com/yWn1yGBKcv

— Jamie McGeever (@ReutersJamie) June 22, 2017

Somehow difficult not to laugh. Albeit wryly.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Fri 23 Jun, 2017 10:38 pm

tinyclanger2 wrote:http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/o ... 58cc?ir=UK
When did we completely lose it as a species?

"Thoughts are with the Daily Mail at this very difficult time."
- Gary Lineker

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Fri 23 Jun, 2017 10:38 pm

“No, hardly a day passes without another drip, drip, drip of mendacious vitriol and bile from the Guardian writers, attacking us and our readership and, by implication, all fair-minded, small-conservatives who make up the great majority in this country.”

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Fri 23 Jun, 2017 10:40 pm

'I only called you a fascist xenophobe because that's what's on your business card beneath your name, Mr. Waynekr'

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Fri 23 Jun, 2017 10:41 pm

tinyclanger2 wrote:
“No, hardly a day passes without another drip, drip, drip of mendacious vitriol and bile from the Guardian writers, attacking us and our readership and, by implication, all fair-minded, small-conservatives who make up the great majority in this country.”

How's Beryl doing, please? Anyone know?

AngryAsWell · Post by **AngryAsWell** » Fri 23 Jun, 2017 10:42 pm

AngryAsWell wrote:Anyone watching Sky and the evacuation of upto 800 residents from high rise flats due to safety concerns ?

Flats are in Camden by the way

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Fri 23 Jun, 2017 10:44 pm

PorFavor wrote:Night night.

Goodnight, PorFavor

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Fri 23 Jun, 2017 10:45 pm

tinyclanger2 wrote:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 05581.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
MPs from all parties are already planning an alliance to defeat Theresa May’s plans for a hard Brexit, just days into the new Parliament.
Would be interested in your views.

Hell, yes

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Fri 23 Jun, 2017 10:46 pm

Goodnight, everyone
I've got to read some Jane Austen
love,
cJA

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Fri 23 Jun, 2017 10:47 pm

http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/blog/archi ... +Report%29" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
A year on from the EU referendum there was some new YouGov polling for the Times this morning. The country remain quite evenly split over whether Brexit is right or wrong, 44% think leaving was the right decision, 45% the wrong decision. There is not much optimism about negotiations – only 26% expect the government to achieve a deal that is good for Britain, 31% expect a poor deal, 15% expect no deal at all

which somewhat contrasts with Tim Martin's perfectly reasonable interpretation that:

http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/820764 ... ght-TV-row" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
“... 85 per cent of people voted for party’s which are pro-Brexit,” he raged.