Saturday 24th & Sunday 25th June 2017

Post by **refitman** » Sat 24 Jun, 2017 7:22 am

Morning all.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sat 24 Jun, 2017 7:48 am

Post by **refitman** » Sat 24 Jun, 2017 7:52 am

All Blacks vs The Lions at half 8. Nervous & excited.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sat 24 Jun, 2017 7:56 am

Children must be taught British values at school to develop resilience against terror, says Ofsted chief
'Recent attacks in Westminster, London Bridge, Manchester and Finsbury Park have brought into stark relief the threats that we face', says Amanda Spielman
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/educa ... 04656.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

"British values". One can't help but wonder what they might actually be.

Post by **refitman** » Sat 24 Jun, 2017 7:58 am

Just to repeat from last night. Jeremy Corbyn will be at Glastonbury, at 4pm this afternoon. He's introducing Run the Jewels, who are an abrasive, politically minded, hip-hop duo.

There's a good video of Killer Mike (one half of the duo) talking to Stephen Colbert about political activism: " onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

This is one of their songs, to get a flavour:
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tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sat 24 Jun, 2017 7:59 am

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/ho ... 04301.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Rupert Murdoch 'heckled with abuse on trip to Hackney cinema'

Post by **refitman** » Sat 24 Jun, 2017 8:12 am

tinyclanger2 wrote:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/ho ... 04301.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Rupert Murdoch 'heckled with abuse on trip to Hackney cinema'

Marina Hyde had a short column about that, which was poor by her standard. This, however is much, much better: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... nservative" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Broadcasters who’ve spent a year being told Andrea Leadsom can’t come to the phone because she’s trapped under something heavy are now able to put her on the telly several times a day. Leadsom’s media appearances are only outstripped by those of Iain Duncan Smith, who has emerged from wherever the Tories hid him, and is now peddling a brilliantly knowing form of self-satire. At least, I think that’s what happening. There’s no other reasonable explanation for a man who’d be intellectually outgunned by any of the runners at Royal Ascot this week deciding to launch an attack on “silly people in the Conservative party with big mouths and small brains”.

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Sat 24 Jun, 2017 8:14 am

Morning all.

One for the "How out of touch with ordinary people can I make this?" file

Majority of the replies I've seen are of the "Yes, yes that is precisely what we do"...

Post by **refitman** » Sat 24 Jun, 2017 8:44 am

RogerOThornhill wrote:Morning all.

One for the "How out of touch with ordinary people can I make this?" file

Majority of the replies I've seen are of the "Yes, yes that is precisely what we do"...

Clearly talking about moving into a second home.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Sat 24 Jun, 2017 8:59 am

refitman wrote:All Blacks vs The Lions at half 8. Nervous & excited.

I'm just fair and serious. But then, I don't follow rugby.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sat 24 Jun, 2017 9:01 am

Inspired by RoTs contribution from last night:

https://news.artnet.com/art-world/botch ... own-197057" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Botched Restoration of Jesus Fresco Miraculously Saves Spanish Town

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Sat 24 Jun, 2017 9:01 am

Good morfternoon.

Computer update seems to have been successful.

@SpinningHugo

Welcome to your new home.

Post by **refitman** » Sat 24 Jun, 2017 9:03 am

PorFavor wrote:Good morfternoon.

Computer update seems to have been successful.

@SpinningHugo

Welcome to your new home.

The big question is: did Hugo move all his stuff in at once, or bit by bit?

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sat 24 Jun, 2017 9:05 am

PorFavor wrote:Good morfternoon.

Computer update seems to have been successful.

@SpinningHugo

Welcome to your new home.

Plot thickener?

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sat 24 Jun, 2017 9:06 am

refitman wrote:
PorFavor wrote:Good morfternoon.

Computer update seems to have been successful.

@SpinningHugo

Welcome to your new home.
The big question is: did Hugo move all his stuff in at once, or bit by bit?

Hah!

Post by **refitman** » Sat 24 Jun, 2017 9:07 am

(Have to confess, It took me nearly a month to move into my house, but I was moving out of a house I shared with a friend and didn't have a deadline)

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Sat 24 Jun, 2017 9:08 am

refitman wrote:
PorFavor wrote:Good morfternoon.

Computer update seems to have been successful.

@SpinningHugo

Welcome to your new home.
The big question is: did Hugo move all his stuff in at once, or bit by bit?

Very good!

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 24 Jun, 2017 9:47 am

http://touchstoneblog.org.uk/2017/06/ru ... nsion-age/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Eric_WLothian · Post by **Eric_WLothian** » Sat 24 Jun, 2017 10:04 am

tinyclanger2 wrote:
Children must be taught British values at school to develop resilience against terror, says Ofsted chief
'Recent attacks in Westminster, London Bridge, Manchester and Finsbury Park have brought into stark relief the threats that we face', says Amanda Spielman
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/educa ... 04656.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
"British values". One can't help but wonder what they might actually be.

1.13604 euros

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 24 Jun, 2017 10:09 am

"According to Ofsted, 'fundamental British values' are:

democracy
the rule of law
individual liberty
mutual respect for and tolerance of those with different faiths and beliefs and for those without faith."

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Sat 24 Jun, 2017 10:24 am

refitman wrote:All Blacks vs The Lions at half 8. Nervous & excited.

But the same old same old in the end.

Post by **refitman** » Sat 24 Jun, 2017 10:28 am

refitman wrote:All Blacks vs The Lions at half 8. Nervous & excited.

Baws. We got munched.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 24 Jun, 2017 10:30 am

We had three "homes" for some years (sounds posh,two were flats associated with work)

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 24 Jun, 2017 10:32 am

Didn't see but followed.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 24 Jun, 2017 10:41 am

"Feels",like a Sunday to me,indeed for some hours I thought it was.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sat 24 Jun, 2017 10:43 am

HindleA wrote:"According to Ofsted, 'fundamental British values' are:

democracy
the rule of law
individual liberty
mutual respect for and tolerance of those with different faiths and beliefs and for those without faith."

I see. So not:

whatever the Mail, Sun and Telegraph want
fomenting unrest with regard to 'unelected' judges
putting people away for looting bottles of water
fomenting hatred on behalf of Huguenot descendant (with German ex-spouse) Nigel Farage

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 24 Jun, 2017 10:44 am

Maybe they should revert to playing in black and white like in '71?

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Sat 24 Jun, 2017 10:47 am

HindleA wrote:Maybe they should revert to playing in black and white like in '71?

Thought that was the Barbarians?

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sat 24 Jun, 2017 10:47 am

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... gotiations" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
She said: “It would be helpful if broadcasters were willing to be a bit patriotic. The country took a decision, this government is determined to deliver on that decision.”

Try as I might I still refute the notion that the country did anything more than express a view on one of a random wish list of things that are mutually exclusive with other things it also wants. Thanks to decades of the British press we are fundamentally politically and socially illiterate.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 24 Jun, 2017 10:55 am

@AK
My pathetic attempt at joke

meant black and white TV coverage,

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Sat 24 Jun, 2017 10:58 am

Ah right

Of course *that* Barbarians try is so iconic partly because it was not long after the switch to colour.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 24 Jun, 2017 10:59 am

Apologies,I literally don't know what day it is.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 24 Jun, 2017 11:02 am

Yeah,my dad played a bit of rugby for the RAF,one of those clearly remembered watching with family things,for me.

gilsey · Post by **gilsey** » Sat 24 Jun, 2017 11:04 am

refitman wrote:Just to repeat from last night. Jeremy Corbyn will be at Glastonbury, at 4pm this afternoon. He's introducing Run the Jewels, who are an abrasive, politically minded, hip-hop duo.

There's a good video of Killer Mike (one half of the duo) talking to Stephen Colbert about political activism: " onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

This is one of their songs, to get a flavour:
[youtube]vWaljXUiCaE[/youtube]
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Is it reasonable to assume that Run the Jewels just happened to be on at the most convenient time for JC? He'd probably never heard of them either.

One of them put out a nice tweet when they found out.

Post by **refitman** » Sat 24 Jun, 2017 11:05 am

Leadsom in moron non-shocker.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... -100911069" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 24 Jun, 2017 11:07 am

27 blocks in 15 areas

Post by **refitman** » Sat 24 Jun, 2017 11:11 am

gilsey wrote:
refitman wrote:Just to repeat from last night. Jeremy Corbyn will be at Glastonbury, at 4pm this afternoon. He's introducing Run the Jewels, who are an abrasive, politically minded, hip-hop duo.

There's a good video of Killer Mike (one half of the duo) talking to Stephen Colbert about political activism: " onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

This is one of their songs, to get a flavour:

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Is it reasonable to assume that Run the Jewels just happened to be on at the most convenient time for JC? He'd probably never heard of them either.
One of them put out a nice tweet when they found out.

Sounds about right. Killer Mike does sound like someone who would be a fan of Corbyn.

Post by **refitman** » Sat 24 Jun, 2017 11:17 am

How awesome would it be if JC was a fan?

Willow904 · Post by **Willow904** » Sat 24 Jun, 2017 11:24 am

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... ttee-chair" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Labour MPs are set to back former cabinet minister Nicky Morgan for chair of the influential Treasury select committee, hoping to stop prominent Brexiter Jacob Rees-Mogg in his bid for the post.

Post by **PaulfromYorkshire** » Sat 24 Jun, 2017 11:31 am

Willow904 wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... ttee-chair

Labour MPs are set to back former cabinet minister Nicky Morgan for chair of the influential Treasury select committee, hoping to stop prominent Brexiter Jacob Rees-Mogg in his bid for the post.

I do hope Morgan gets this.

I don't agree with some of her views, but she is coherent on Brexit and it would be good to have her there.

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Sat 24 Jun, 2017 11:42 am

Well if you believe some, JRM has rather higher ambitions than that now

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Sat 24 Jun, 2017 11:54 am

Love Huw Edwards reply to this...

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tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sat 24 Jun, 2017 11:54 am

Not sure

would cover it (depending on what it is)

Post by **PaulfromYorkshire** » Sat 24 Jun, 2017 12:00 pm

RogerOThornhill wrote:Love Huw Edwards reply to this...

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Excellent and TBF likewise Giles' reply.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 24 Jun, 2017 12:19 pm

http://touchstoneblog.org.uk/2017/06/un ... ying-help/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 24 Jun, 2017 12:27 pm

https://mainlymacro.blogspot.co.uk/2017 ... ar-on.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Brexiteers versus Economists one year on

Mainlymacro

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 24 Jun, 2017 12:30 pm

http://news.camden.gov.uk/evacuation-of ... statement/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 24 Jun, 2017 12:56 pm

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liv ... s-13233510" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Sat 24 Jun, 2017 1:59 pm

PaulfromYorkshire wrote:
Willow904 wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... ttee-chair

Labour MPs are set to back former cabinet minister Nicky Morgan for chair of the influential Treasury select committee, hoping to stop prominent Brexiter Jacob Rees-Mogg in his bid for the post.
I do hope Morgan gets this.

I don't agree with some of her views, but she is coherent on Brexit and it would be good to have her there.

A weak, inadequate, minority government and a strong opposition taking advantage of division helping country and people

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Sat 24 Jun, 2017 2:06 pm

Good-afternoon, everyone