Saturday September 27th & Sunday 28th September 2014

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Sun 28 Sep, 2014 7:48 pm

Iain Duncan Smith: a reputation beyond accountability?

http://www.ekklesia.co.uk/node/20540

Worth reading...

AngryAsWell · Post by **AngryAsWell** » Sun 28 Sep, 2014 7:49 pm

tinyclanger2 wrote:
rebeccariots2 wrote:I'm sitting here putting off the point when I have to go and work out yet another way of presenting courgettes for dinner to Mr Riots. This eating seasonal stuff is damn challenging sometimes ...
Pasta with grilled courgettes in a lemon juice/olive oil/grated parmesan "sauce". It's a winner.

I might try that one, I do feel its time I grew up and ate courgettes properly

AngryAsWell · Post by **AngryAsWell** » Sun 28 Sep, 2014 7:50 pm

rebeccariots2 wrote:Courgette dinner decision is on hold as one of the dogs has gone AWOL and Mr Riots is off across the fields in a panic with a torch. She would have to do this just at dusk ... and after she's been taken to the beach for a long walk and been fed a tasty dinner.

Fingers crossed you find her soon

Post by **refitman** » Sun 28 Sep, 2014 7:54 pm

AngryAsWell wrote:
refitman wrote:
AngryAsWell wrote: Courgettes - hummm, a veg I always find challenging, the texture (when cooked) is to slimy for me
Slice length-ways, oil & season and then griddle (preferably BBQ). Get them to where they start to char. Yum.
Tried them like that but the middle - squishy bit - sets my teeth on edge.
The only way I can eat them (so far) is sliced v thin and pan fried with garlic and onions till crispy (some would say burnt)

I never could eat jelly as a child either - still can't

Ah, I meant into slices, not just in half.

Tubby Isaacs · Post by **Tubby Isaacs** » Sun 28 Sep, 2014 7:55 pm

Hague seems to be Minister for Media.

Odd choice, as bloke on another board has pointed out. He's not even going to be in the Commons after 2015

Post by **refitman** » Sun 28 Sep, 2014 7:57 pm

AngryAsWell wrote:
refitman wrote:
AngryAsWell wrote: Courgettes - hummm, a veg I always find challenging, the texture (when cooked) is to slimy for me
Slice length-ways, oil & season and then griddle (preferably BBQ). Get them to where they start to char. Yum.
Tried them like that but the middle - squishy bit - sets my teeth on edge.
The only way I can eat them (so far) is sliced v thin and pan fried with garlic and onions till crispy (some would say burnt)

I never could eat jelly as a child either - still can't

As a youth I used to weep in butchers shops...
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Tubby Isaacs · Post by **Tubby Isaacs** » Sun 28 Sep, 2014 8:00 pm

Stephen Crabb, the Welsh secretary, has said that the government will offer Wales greater tax-varying powers. He told the conference:
Our tax devolution will end the politics of the begging bowl in Wales. And so will begin a new era of responsible government in Wales. This is devolution with a purpose.

You can see where this is heading, can't you?

Cut to the grant, go and levy the extra money yourself. Given that tax cuts don't "pay for themselves", it's likely to involve having higher tax than England. Scotland (rightly) has decided that's a non-starter.

Not at all pulled out of the Tory arse to make English Votes thing look more plausible.

How have the Welsh Government been irresponsible?

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sun 28 Sep, 2014 8:11 pm

cf. weeping in butchers shops.

Are we there yet?
No. We're here.

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Sun 28 Sep, 2014 8:15 pm

I've completely forgotten how to even put a link for an image off Twitter:

But has anyone else seen the shot of Grant Shapps standing in front of Conservative Youth in their Union Jack T-shirts?

Seriously disturbing. Someone on Twitter likened them to cult members. Which I thought was a good description. Wish there was a closer shot because from what I can see their body language is interesting...

Puzzling too. They're young. Have sharp brains, and yet they can sit - which suggests support - behind a serial liar...

AngryAsWell · Post by **AngryAsWell** » Sun 28 Sep, 2014 8:24 pm

ohsocynical wrote:I've completely forgotten how to even put a link for an image off Twitter:

But has anyone else seen the shot of Grant Shapps standing in front of Conservative Youth in their Union Jack T-shirts?

Seriously disturbing. Someone on Twitter likened them to cult members. Which I thought was a good description. Wish there was a closer shot because from what I can see their body language is interesting...

Puzzling too. They're young. Have sharp brains, and yet they can sit - which suggests support - behind a serial liar...

I posted a link to one of them above /\

AngryAsWell · Post by **AngryAsWell** » Sun 28 Sep, 2014 8:25 pm

AngryAsWell wrote:
ohsocynical wrote:I've completely forgotten how to even put a link for an image off Twitter:

But has anyone else seen the shot of Grant Shapps standing in front of Conservative Youth in their Union Jack T-shirts?

Seriously disturbing. Someone on Twitter likened them to cult members. Which I thought was a good description. Wish there was a closer shot because from what I can see their body language is interesting...

Puzzling too. They're young. Have sharp brains, and yet they can sit - which suggests support - behind a serial liar...
I posted a link to one of them above /\

Here you go

Are you really sure this won't make us look like a fascist party in a dystopian novel?"
"Yeah, sure,don't worry

https://twitter.com/youngvulgarian/stat" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; ... 9621517312

danesclose · Post by **danesclose** » Sun 28 Sep, 2014 8:27 pm

ohsocynical wrote:I've completely forgotten how to even put a link for an image off Twitter:

But has anyone else seen the shot of Grant Shapps standing in front of Conservative Youth in their Union Jack T-shirts?

Seriously disturbing. Someone on Twitter likened them to cult members. Which I thought was a good description. Wish there was a closer shot because from what I can see their body language is interesting...

Puzzling too. They're young. Have sharp brains, and yet they can sit - which suggests support - behind a serial liar...

Hi Ohso. Is this the image you were looking for?

: 2014-09-28_202335.jpg (61.5 KiB) Viewed 18392 times

Loved the comment below the picture:

"The branch on the linden is leafy and green. The Rhine gives its gold to the sea"

AngryAsWell · Post by **AngryAsWell** » Sun 28 Sep, 2014 8:27 pm

25 People Who Are Really Confused As To Why Grant Shapps Follows Them On Twitter
http://www.buzzfeed.com/jimwaterson/peo ... is#1blj8vq" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Grant Shapps, The Tory MP Trying To Deal With His Party’s UKIP Defections And Sexting Scandal, Is Following A Porn Star On Twitter

http://www.buzzfeed.com/hannahjewell/gr ... er#1blj8vq" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Sun 28 Sep, 2014 8:28 pm

Dog back.

Trotted in looking very pleased with whatever adventure she had decided to have.

Mr Riots summonsed back from his field trip with 2 short sharp blasts of the whistle we have for this very purpose (yes, we really do ...).

No point in chastising dog (or Mr Riots). Far too late for that.

Dinner will be later than usual tonight.

AngryAsWell · Post by **AngryAsWell** » Sun 28 Sep, 2014 8:30 pm

rebeccariots2 wrote:Dog back.

Trotted in looking very pleased with whatever adventure she had decided to have.

Mr Riots summonsed back from his field trip with 2 short sharp blasts of the whistle we have for this very purpose (yes, we really do ...).

No point in chastising dog (or Mr Riots). Far too late for that.

Dinner will be later than usual tonight.

Phew - really please she's back

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Sun 28 Sep, 2014 8:30 pm

Tubby Isaacs wrote:
Stephen Crabb, the Welsh secretary, has said that the government will offer Wales greater tax-varying powers. He told the conference:
Our tax devolution will end the politics of the begging bowl in Wales. And so will begin a new era of responsible government in Wales. This is devolution with a purpose.
You can see where this is heading, can't you?

Cut to the grant, go and levy the extra money yourself. Given that tax cuts don't "pay for themselves", it's likely to involve having higher tax than England. Scotland (rightly) has decided that's a non-starter.

Not at all pulled out of the Tory arse to make English Votes thing look more plausible.

How have the Welsh Government been irresponsible?

We're hoping to end Stephen Crabb's parliamentary experience .... got a much better candidate up our sleeve.

Post by **letsskiptotheleft** » Sun 28 Sep, 2014 8:32 pm

''Mam, can I go to Folly Farm with the school'' ''yes love, now get out of my way and I'll text the school''

Tories, solving the hard problems no one else can.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/ed ... phone.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

ErnstRemarx · Post by **ErnstRemarx** » Sun 28 Sep, 2014 8:38 pm

ohsocynical wrote: Iain Duncan Smith: a reputation beyond accountability?

http://www.ekklesia.co.uk/node/20540

Worth reading...

Hi ohso - yes, that's a very good read and nails it down. The list of directors at IDS' pet think tank is quite terrifying in their removal from reality and the everyday lives of so many - not least the people they purport to 'understand'.

Full marks to you (and Bernadette Mearden) to raising this one. It's well worth retweeting as it gets right to the heart of why IDS is wrong and is making such a colossal mess of his brief, and why the Graun should hang its head in eternal shame. 'In praise of Iain Duncan Smith' indeed. A memorable low.

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Sun 28 Sep, 2014 8:39 pm

danesclose wrote:
ohsocynical wrote:I've completely forgotten how to even put a link for an image off Twitter:

But has anyone else seen the shot of Grant Shapps standing in front of Conservative Youth in their Union Jack T-shirts?

Seriously disturbing. Someone on Twitter likened them to cult members. Which I thought was a good description. Wish there was a closer shot because from what I can see their body language is interesting...

Puzzling too. They're young. Have sharp brains, and yet they can sit - which suggests support - behind a serial liar...
Hi Ohso. Is this the image you were looking for?

2014-09-28_202335.jpg
Loved the comment below the picture:

"The branch on the linden is leafy and green. The Rhine gives its gold to the sea"

Thanks

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Sun 28 Sep, 2014 8:41 pm

AngryAsWell wrote:
AngryAsWell wrote:
ohsocynical wrote:I've completely forgotten how to even put a link for an image off Twitter:

But has anyone else seen the shot of Grant Shapps standing in front of Conservative Youth in their Union Jack T-shirts?

Seriously disturbing. Someone on Twitter likened them to cult members. Which I thought was a good description. Wish there was a closer shot because from what I can see their body language is interesting...

Puzzling too. They're young. Have sharp brains, and yet they can sit - which suggests support - behind a serial liar...
I posted a link to one of them above /\
Here you go
Are you really sure this won't make us look like a fascist party in a dystopian novel?"
"Yeah, sure,don't worry

https://twitter.com/youngvulgarian/stat" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; ... 9621517312

Thank you

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Sun 28 Sep, 2014 8:53 pm

ErnstRemarx wrote:
ohsocynical wrote: Iain Duncan Smith: a reputation beyond accountability?

http://www.ekklesia.co.uk/node/20540

Worth reading...
Hi ohso - yes, that's a very good read and nails it down. The list of directors at IDS' pet think tank is quite terrifying in their removal from reality and the everyday lives of so many - not least the people they purport to 'understand'.

Full marks to you (and Bernadette Mearden) to raising this one. It's well worth retweeting as it gets right to the heart of why IDS is wrong and is making such a colossal mess of his brief, and why the Graun should hang its head in eternal shame. 'In praise of Iain Duncan Smith' indeed. A memorable low.

An eye opener on his think tank too. Guys in high up jobs, and they've come up with schemes that are wasting eye watering amounts.
Incompetent. If I saw mention of George Smith's think tank on their CV I wouldn't give them a job. Or want them sitting on the board of any company I might own.

AngryAsWell · Post by **AngryAsWell** » Sun 28 Sep, 2014 8:57 pm

John Bull ‏@larrymeath · 10m
The #UKIP think-tank has just parked on my front lawn. pic.twitter.com/WkXSpE7r1h

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RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Sun 28 Sep, 2014 9:03 pm

letsskiptotheleft wrote:''Mam, can I go to Folly Farm with the school'' ''yes love, now get out of my way and I'll text the school''

Tories, solving the hard problems no one else can.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/ed ... phone.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

If that's the level of policy they're thinking about then Tristram Hunt has nothing to worry about.

AngryAsWell · Post by **AngryAsWell** » Sun 28 Sep, 2014 9:04 pm

George Eaton ‏@georgeeaton · 5m
Tory leadership "incredibly concerned" that Chris Kelly MP will be next to defect to UKIP, reports @AnooshChakelian http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/20 ... ext-defect" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; …

Dudley South

AngryAsWell · Post by **AngryAsWell** » Sun 28 Sep, 2014 9:07 pm

Thank you for adding images for me

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Sun 28 Sep, 2014 9:17 pm

AngryAsWell wrote:George Eaton ‏@georgeeaton · 5m
Tory leadership "incredibly concerned" that Chris Kelly MP will be next to defect to UKIP, reports @AnooshChakelian http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/20 ... ext-defect" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; …

Dudley South

They say Farage has been hinting there'll be another defection before Cameron makes his speech...

Post by **letsskiptotheleft** » Sun 28 Sep, 2014 9:18 pm

I've always had the Kippers down as dead ringers for extras from The League of Gentlemen, apols for language.

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AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Sun 28 Sep, 2014 9:18 pm

AngryAsWell wrote:George Eaton ‏@georgeeaton · 5m
Tory leadership "incredibly concerned" that Chris Kelly MP will be next to defect to UKIP, reports @AnooshChakelian http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/20 ... ext-defect" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; …

Dudley South

Announced he was standing down as an MP next year just days after Carswell defected. Many believe this was not a complete coincidence

AngryAsWell · Post by **AngryAsWell** » Sun 28 Sep, 2014 9:32 pm

John Prescott ‏@johnprescott · 3m
Grant Shapps says Mark Reckless 'lied, lied and lied again.' Here are two pictures #CPC14 #donthavenightmares pic.twitter.com/PdMxsN0Tjd

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rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Sun 28 Sep, 2014 9:42 pm

Retweeted by Patrick O'Flynn
Lord Ashcroft ‏@LordAshcroft Sep 27
Survation Rotheram poll LAB 48% UKIP 37% CON 6% LDEM 4%

Well that should be a reality alarm for some.

Conservative 6% and Lib Dem 4%. Almost enough to make me wee me knickers from sniggering (those adverts about womens' leaky bladders have a lot to answer for).

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Sun 28 Sep, 2014 9:44 pm

AngryAsWell wrote:John Prescott ‏@johnprescott · 3m
Grant Shapps says Mark Reckless 'lied, lied and lied again.' Here are two pictures #CPC14 #donthavenightmares pic.twitter.com/PdMxsN0Tjd

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I've tried to sort of make his hypocritical whingeing and whining cool - by hearing it as a kind of soul anthem, a cry from the heart - a la Mary J Blige or someone really not as naff as him, way out of his class.

AngryAsWell · Post by **AngryAsWell** » Sun 28 Sep, 2014 9:45 pm

@election-data blog on Heywood and Middleton, makes interesting reading

http://election-data.blogspot.co.uk/201 ... n.html?m=1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

AngryAsWell · Post by **AngryAsWell** » Sun 28 Sep, 2014 9:47 pm

AngryAsWell wrote:John Prescott ‏@johnprescott · 3m
Grant Shapps says Mark Reckless 'lied, lied and lied again.' Here are two pictures #CPC14 #donthavenightmares pic.twitter.com/PdMxsN0Tjd

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Need a heart smiley :<3:
Thank you again

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Sun 28 Sep, 2014 9:50 pm

rebeccariots2 wrote:
Retweeted by Patrick O'Flynn
Lord Ashcroft ‏@LordAshcroft Sep 27
Survation Rotheram poll LAB 48% UKIP 37% CON 6% LDEM 4%
Well that should be a reality alarm for some.

Conservative 6% and Lib Dem 4%. Almost enough to make me wee me knickers from sniggering (those adverts about womens' leaky bladders have a lot to answer for).

I wonder if the penny's finally dropping at no 10, that he actually isn't very good at the job.

Humiliating.

AngryAsWell · Post by **AngryAsWell** » Sun 28 Sep, 2014 9:52 pm

AngryAsWell wrote:@election-data blog on Heywood and Middleton, makes interesting reading

http://election-data.blogspot.co.uk/201 ... n.html?m=1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

trying to find out who writes @election-data blog - anyone know?

ohsocynical · Post by **ohsocynical** » Sun 28 Sep, 2014 9:57 pm

Denis Skinner ‏@BolsoverBeast 13h
Unexpectedly available

Mens Vintage Paisley Pyjamas By St Michael (M&S) Size Medium

Condition used: An item that has been previously worn

Another favourite of mine.

Tubby Isaacs · Post by **Tubby Isaacs** » Sun 28 Sep, 2014 9:59 pm

AnatolyKasparov wrote:
AngryAsWell wrote:George Eaton ‏@georgeeaton · 5m
Tory leadership "incredibly concerned" that Chris Kelly MP will be next to defect to UKIP, reports @AnooshChakelian http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/20 ... ext-defect" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; …

Dudley South
Announced he was standing down as an MP next year just days after Carswell defected. Many believe this was not a complete coincidence

Wouldn't that lead to another by-election? I suppose the more they can get the more publicity they'd get. Like Reckless, he'd have an MEP-ship waiting for him in 2019.

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Sun 28 Sep, 2014 10:14 pm

ohsocynical wrote:Denis Skinner ‏@BolsoverBeast 13h
Unexpectedly available

Mens Vintage Paisley Pyjamas By St Michael (M&S) Size Medium

Condition used: An item that has been previously worn

Another favourite of mine.

Oooh, he is awful, isn't he. But I like him too.

Hobiejoe · Post by **Hobiejoe** » Sun 28 Sep, 2014 10:19 pm

AngryAsWell wrote:Peter Hale ‏@petervhale · 4m
BBC News - Two Tories go Independent in Teignbridge - http://bbc.in/1sGk9Mz" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; - Two Devon Tories go Independent

They're buggers for that down here. I'm next door, in South Hams, and in the Great 90's Tory Meltdown we were suddenly overwhelmed with "Independants". Happily, the council saved a little bit of money because all they had to do to change the big notice board at the entrance to Follaton House was to put a sticker under the photo of each frit Tory councillor changing their allegiance.

Given what came to pass in '97' I'd say that this is, albeit unquantifiable, a heartening piece of news.

55DegreesNorth · Post by **55DegreesNorth** » Sun 28 Sep, 2014 10:19 pm

rebeccariots2 wrote:I'm sitting here putting off the point when I have to go and work out yet another way of presenting courgettes for dinner to Mr Riots. This eating seasonal stuff is damn challenging sometimes ...

Try grating them with the coarsest side, then blanch them briefly in boiling water. A great alternative to pasta and a decent veg, as long as you don't overcook.

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Sun 28 Sep, 2014 10:26 pm

Hobiejoe wrote:
AngryAsWell wrote:Peter Hale ‏@petervhale · 4m
BBC News - Two Tories go Independent in Teignbridge - http://bbc.in/1sGk9Mz" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; - Two Devon Tories go Independent
They're buggers for that down here. I'm next door, in South Hams, and in the Great 90's Tory Meltdown we were suddenly overwhelmed with "Independants". Happily, the council saved a little bit of money because all they had to do to change the big notice board at the entrance to Follaton House was to put a sticker under the photo of each frit Tory councillor changing their allegiance.

Given what came to pass in '97' I'd say that this is, albeit unquantifiable, a heartening piece of news.

We've got lots of those 'Independents' here too. In our case it seems to be code for Tories of a Freemason persuasion. We also have a unique class system of Independents as we have the additional layer of 'Independents Plus'. Super shit Tories of a Freemason persuasion.

rebeccariots2 · Post by **rebeccariots2** » Sun 28 Sep, 2014 10:28 pm

55DegreesNorth wrote:
rebeccariots2 wrote:I'm sitting here putting off the point when I have to go and work out yet another way of presenting courgettes for dinner to Mr Riots. This eating seasonal stuff is damn challenging sometimes ...
Try grating them with the coarsest side, then blanch them briefly in boiling water. A great alternative to pasta and a decent veg, as long as you don't overcook.

Whoever knew what a dab hand the FTN crew would prove to be with recipe advice. Thank you 55DN. I will give it a go - especially as we have several courgettes of the 'larger' variety on the go.

AngryAsWell · Post by **AngryAsWell** » Sun 28 Sep, 2014 10:29 pm

Hobiejoe wrote:
AngryAsWell wrote:Peter Hale ‏@petervhale · 4m
BBC News - Two Tories go Independent in Teignbridge - http://bbc.in/1sGk9Mz" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; - Two Devon Tories go Independent
They're buggers for that down here. I'm next door, in South Hams, and in the Great 90's Tory Meltdown we were suddenly overwhelmed with "Independants". Happily, the council saved a little bit of money because all they had to do to change the big notice board at the entrance to Follaton House was to put a sticker under the photo of each frit Tory councillor changing their allegiance.

Given what came to pass in '97' I'd say that this is, albeit unquantifiable, a heartening piece of news.

Lets hope its a prophecy

(By the way I predict a Labour Landslide, and have done for the past year from about the time my hard core tory - now ex tory - neighbour started referring to the unemployed as "those poor buggers" instead of "scrounging bas£ards")

Hobiejoe · Post by **Hobiejoe** » Sun 28 Sep, 2014 10:34 pm

rebeccariots2 wrote:
Michael Savage ‏@michaelsavage 23m
I thought Michael Gove was meant to be the minister for the TV? Today, shortly after the political shows, he was spotted in Birmingham Boots

I don't know why I think that's funny - but I do - I really do.

If the spirit of Spike Milligan is looking down/up at us, the hubbub in the pharmacy would have gone quiet just as he ordered a tub of Blue Unction in a loud voice.

Post by **refitman** » Sun 28 Sep, 2014 10:36 pm

John Crace has almost written a good column:

As Shapps once operated under the aliases of both Michael Green and Sebastian Fox when promoting his internet business, you’d have thought he might have had some sympathy for a man with an identity crisis. But the new caring Conservatism only extends so far.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... ace-sketch" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

TechnicalEphemera · Post by **TechnicalEphemera** » Sun 28 Sep, 2014 10:39 pm

refitman wrote:John Crace has almost written a good column:
As Shapps once operated under the aliases of both Michael Green and Sebastian Fox when promoting his internet business, you’d have thought he might have had some sympathy for a man with an identity crisis. But the new caring Conservatism only extends so far.
http://www.theguardian.com/politics/201 ... ace-sketch" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I saw that as well, I assumed I was hallucinating. Clearly not.

ErnstRemarx · Post by **ErnstRemarx** » Sun 28 Sep, 2014 10:41 pm

That H&M blog is very good. Labour needs to up its game in such seats and appeal to what are some of the poorest and most disenfranchised people around. I work hard as a Labour councillor, but I'm always aware that I have to strive to cover every last inch, and that's far more the case for poorer wards such as those highlighted.

Langley (a Manchester overspill that should comfortably return Labour councillors) turning to UKIP is either the sign of utter despair or a major plea for a lot less southern England, middle class Blairism and a return to ordinary people, not just those who can afford the mock Tudor homes and run two cars. The blog links well with the Graun link I posted earlier about the Labour party and the subsequent posts I made on the subject which, frankly, I was hoping would excite a few replies.

AngryAsWell · Post by **AngryAsWell** » Sun 28 Sep, 2014 10:43 pm

http://labourlist.org/2014/09/six-answe ... questions/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

"You can always tell when Jeremy Hunt is rattled. He starts sending out dodgy tweets."

Post by **refitman** » Sun 28 Sep, 2014 10:46 pm

AngryAsWell wrote:http://labourlist.org/2014/09/six-answe ... questions/

"You can always tell when Jeremy Hunt is rattled. He starts sending out dodgy tweets."

You can always tell when Jeremy Hunt is rattled. He ~~starts sending out dodgy tweets.~~ hides behind a tree.

Fixed it for you/them.

AngryAsWell · Post by **AngryAsWell** » Sun 28 Sep, 2014 10:49 pm

ErnstRemarx wrote:That H&M blog is very good. Labour needs to up its game in such seats and appeal to what are some of the poorest and most disenfranchised people around. I work hard as a Labour councillor, but I'm always aware that I have to strive to cover every last inch, and that's far more the case for poorer wards such as those highlighted.

Langley (a Manchester overspill that should comfortably return Labour councillors) turning to UKIP is either the sign of utter despair or a major plea for a lot less southern England, middle class Blairism and a return to ordinary people, not just those who can afford the mock Tudor homes and run two cars. The blog links well with the Graun link I posted earlier about the Labour party and the subsequent posts I made on the subject which, frankly, I was hoping would excite a few replies.

Langley has always had a BNP/ ELD feel. Skin heads with Rottweiler's or pit bulls rome freely round the estate. Not pleasant. I got attacked on Bowlee once, fortunately they did not realise how scatty my horse was till he booted of them in the gut

Or how fast he could move.....
I was going to reply to the other post but got tied up with cooking an stuff, now its got too late

Will dig in tomorrow.
Night all

Been a happy day