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"But hey look at the money not saved and lack of cost saving investment"
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Redeemed myself to a degree on crossword forum with knowledge of 10cc songs.
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Although,they have appeared to hidden it unaware of my "delving" powers.
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They moved the whole bloody site,shortly after I joined,not that I took it personally.
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Sorry (and the article is very decent in many respects) but who is "we"??

In actual fact, public opinion has been moving leftwards on welfare/benefits in the last few years as on some other topics.

(its only perhaps immigration, amongst the major issues, where most people remain stubbornly reactionary even now)
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HindleA wrote:[youtube]Oc46Gk-6qrA[/youtube]
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memory playing tricks. can anyone help me.

circa late 1970s a club in Manchester, upstairs they had tales of the unexpected.
I recall a wide stage (rather the length of the venue than the width) and stairs going up on the left. upstairs was a chill area with, as I say, tales of the unexpected playing.
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PorFavor wrote:
May says there are 600,000 nurses registered in the UK. There are 13,000 more than in 2010. She says she understands that it has been hard, as the government has been dealing with Labour’s mismanagement of the economy. But if you don’t deal with the deficit, you will become like Greece.(Politics Live, Guardian)
Venezuela, Greece. Greece, Venezuela. Tedious and pathetic.
The woman is an absolute ....
The Tories, indeed are absolute ....s

No interest in the people they 'represent'; just whatever it takes to stay in power and siphon as much as they can into their pockets.
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AnatolyKasparov wrote:I see from the above that May is trying to exhume "the deficit" as a bogeyman.

Not so easy when, after it going almost totally unmentioned during the GE campaign (what a contrast with 2 years ago) the MAGIC MONEY TREE has been shown to be alive and well :roll:
on out planet we have magic music trees.
except that they're not magic. they're just trees that play music.
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Tinyclanger,I only know two clubs in Manchester,neither relevant,I am afraid.
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HindleA wrote:Redeemed myself to a degree on crossword forum with knowledge of 10cc songs.
Impressive.

Track listing[edit]
"Donna"
"Rubber Bullets"
"The Dean and I"
"The Wall Street Shuffle"
"Silly Love"
"Life Is A Minestrone"
"Une Nuit A Paris"
"I'm Not in Love"
"Art for Art's Sake"
"I'm Mandy Fly Me"
"The Things We Do for Love"
"Good Morning Judge"
"Dreadlock Holiday"
"People in Love"
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"Wedding Bells" *
"Cry" *
"Neanderthal Man" **
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According to "research" the first episode was shown on March 24th '79.
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It wasn't the Factory/Russel Club, Cyprus Tavern and I DON'T THINK it was the Poly disco.
Nor was it Belle Vue.

Squat?
Maybe the Poly after all but wasn't the stage at the end?

Too many hazy memories.
Need time travel to check.
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I had the benefit of cryptic clues to them.
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10cc were of course from down the road in owen jones-land.
(Stockport)
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This is the sound ... of Stockport
(na na na na na na na na)

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/ ... rt-8436996" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Bends can be deceptive.
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They've renamed it?
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Stockport Stockport
So good they named it twice
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"Tarquinville"
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JRM has had sixth child (Sixtus Dominic Boniface Christopher).
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Soz, went a bit off piste. (politics).
On account of the fact that I've lost interest on medical grounds.
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Is the new Messiah confusing temporary jobs with zero hours contracts?
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(Labour commitment to)

Incorporating the UN Disability Rights Convention into UK law – what would it mean
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@HindleA

You've got the bends?
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Eric_WLothian wrote:Interesting article on the Grenfell inquiry from George Monbiot:
The Grenfell inquiry will be a stitch-up. Here’s why

...Let me give you an example. On the morning of 14 June, as the tower blazed, an organisation called the Red Tape Initiative convened for its prearranged discussion about building regulations. One of the organisation’s tasks was to consider whether rules determining the fire resistance of cladding materials should be removed for the sake of construction industry profits.
Please bear with me while I explain what this initiative is and who runs it, as it’s a perfect cameo of British politics. It’s a government-backed body, established “to grasp the opportunities” that Brexit offers to cut “red tape” – a disparaging term for public protections. It’s chaired by the Conservative MP Sir Oliver Letwin, who has claimed that “the call to minimise risk is a call for a cowardly society”. It is a forum in which exceedingly wealthy people help decide which protections should be stripped away from lesser beings.

Among the members of its advisory panel are Charles Moore, who was editor of the Daily Telegraph and the chair of an organisation called Policy Exchange. He was also best man at Letwin’s wedding. Sitting beside him is Archie Norman, the former chief executive of Asda and the founder of Policy Exchange. He was once Conservative MP for Tunbridge Wells – and was succeeded in that seat by Greg Clark, the minister who now provides government support for the Red Tape Initiative...
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... y-exchange" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
This sounds like the latest iteration of what they and the lib dems set up in late 2010, saying it was a consultation on national and local government regulations and inviting the public to email their comments on regulations to 'burdens at gov.uk'.

(rewritten to stop it actually being a link to send an email) (and then redone again to actually edit my post instead of replying to it)
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The Hacienda
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@PF 10cc reference.
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actually.
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mbc1955 wrote:The Hacienda
Thank you, I didn't ask the question, but have been scratching my brain over that for ages now... :lol:
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Reminds me of a question I meant to ask, has "kintory" actually been accepted as a word for scrabble purposes,I know it was under debate.
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AngryAsWell wrote:
mbc1955 wrote:The Hacienda
Thank you, I didn't ask the question, but have been scratching my brain over that for ages now... :lol:

Me, too. Although trying to remember something that I knew I'd never known in the first place must be a sign of something . . .
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The times?
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Night night.
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HindleA wrote:Reminds me of a question I meant to ask, has "kintory" actually been accepted as a word for scrabble purposes,I know it was under debate.
Not sure, but KINTORI YAKITORI is skewered meat & vegetables :?

Same thing ? :lol: :lol:
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:lol!:
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-40499567" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


One in three nursing homes in England 'fail safety'


https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 ... is-failing" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The Care Quality Commission said that of 4,000 nursing homes, which care for the most vulnerable people at the end of their lives, 32% have been rated inadequate or requires improvement and 37% have been told they must improve safety.



While nursing homes come out worst, services grouped as “community social care” emerge best. These include sheltered housing with “extra-care” support and so-called “shared lives” schemes whereby people accept others needing care and support into their own homes.
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