Friday 7th July 2017
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Friday 7th July 2017
Morning all.
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Morning.
I see that Anatoly asked for a reminder about the "internal eyes only" Stephen Doughty blog, in connection with Robbie Gibb. Apologies for the delay, see below:
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2016/ ... kuenssberg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
There was a much more excoriating piece by MediaLens at the time, but I hardly think you need it hammered home that this whole thing stank.
I see that Anatoly asked for a reminder about the "internal eyes only" Stephen Doughty blog, in connection with Robbie Gibb. Apologies for the delay, see below:
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2016/ ... kuenssberg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
There was a much more excoriating piece by MediaLens at the time, but I hardly think you need it hammered home that this whole thing stank.
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Proposals for Margaret Thatcher statue near parliament turned down ...
'The Royal Parks manages the land on which the statue would be sited but said it refused permission on the grounds that it has not been given assurances that Thatcher’s family approve of the monument.
The £300,000 work was commissioned by the Public Memorials Appeal, after the former Conservative prime minister’s death in 2013. However, Thatcher’s daughter, Carol, sent a letter to the charity last year... objecting to the absence of a handbag in the design. '
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... urned-down" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
'The Royal Parks manages the land on which the statue would be sited but said it refused permission on the grounds that it has not been given assurances that Thatcher’s family approve of the monument.
The £300,000 work was commissioned by the Public Memorials Appeal, after the former Conservative prime minister’s death in 2013. However, Thatcher’s daughter, Carol, sent a letter to the charity last year... objecting to the absence of a handbag in the design. '
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It seems a bit far fetched to claim Tories are outspent,
but also, maybe not picking an unnecessarily wide range of society might have been a good idea, rather than complaining about them having the audacity to fight back?
Gist of the article is (apparently) that writer is concerned about effect on campaigns in future, rather than result of the election.. Labour had the backing of vastly more third party campaigners and organisations than the Conservatives. From fox hunting to ivory to food banks to school funding, on a myriad of issues there were well-funded, well-organised groups and individuals pushing out effectively pro-Labour messages to millions of people.
It seems a bit far fetched to claim Tories are outspent,
but also, maybe not picking an unnecessarily wide range of society might have been a good idea, rather than complaining about them having the audacity to fight back?
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Funny how we never get any comment from the academy cheerleaders about these kind of events...
Ministers finally set to shut down Perry Beeches
http://schoolsweek.co.uk/ministers-fina ... y-beeches/
Funny how we never get any comment from the academy cheerleaders about these kind of events...
Ministers finally set to shut down Perry Beeches
http://schoolsweek.co.uk/ministers-fina ... y-beeches/
...or those who highlight every bit of misconduct in the NHS - they're strangely silent too. Funny that...The controversial Perry Beeches academy trust in Birmingham is finally set to be disbanded, with its five schools handed to other trusts, 15 months after financial irregularities were first revealed.
Schools Week understands that proposals to close the trust and rebroker its schools have finally been agreed, and are awaiting sign-off from the academies minister Lord Nash.
Four of the schools are set to be handed to the Core Education Trust, which was set up to take over two Birmingham schools caught up in the Trojan Horse affair. Ark will take on the other school.
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Ah, what happened to Julie/Judy whatever her name was? Is she still interested in saving the NHS?RogerOThornhill wrote:Morning all.
Funny how we never get any comment from the academy cheerleaders about these kind of events...
Ministers finally set to shut down Perry Beeches
http://schoolsweek.co.uk/ministers-fina ... y-beeches/
...or those who highlight every bit of misconduct in the NHS - they're strangely silent too. Funny that...The controversial Perry Beeches academy trust in Birmingham is finally set to be disbanded, with its five schools handed to other trusts, 15 months after financial irregularities were first revealed.
Schools Week understands that proposals to close the trust and rebroker its schools have finally been agreed, and are awaiting sign-off from the academies minister Lord Nash.
Four of the schools are set to be handed to the Core Education Trust, which was set up to take over two Birmingham schools caught up in the Trojan Horse affair. Ark will take on the other school.
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House prices stalling, balance of trade widening, industrial output falling. Going well this Tory chancellor lark. I expect its all down to Labour.
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Julie Bailey - Cure the NHS. What happened to her charity enterprise? I rather lost track.StephenDolan wrote:Ah, what happened to Julie/Judy whatever her name was? Is she still interested in saving the NHS?RogerOThornhill wrote:Morning all.
Funny how we never get any comment from the academy cheerleaders about these kind of events...
Ministers finally set to shut down Perry Beeches
http://schoolsweek.co.uk/ministers-fina ... y-beeches/
...or those who highlight every bit of misconduct in the NHS - they're strangely silent too. Funny that...The controversial Perry Beeches academy trust in Birmingham is finally set to be disbanded, with its five schools handed to other trusts, 15 months after financial irregularities were first revealed.
Schools Week understands that proposals to close the trust and rebroker its schools have finally been agreed, and are awaiting sign-off from the academies minister Lord Nash.
Four of the schools are set to be handed to the Core Education Trust, which was set up to take over two Birmingham schools caught up in the Trojan Horse affair. Ark will take on the other school.
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Good morfternoon.
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Ah yes, I remember now. All rather rum, it is fair to say.NonOxCol wrote:Morning.
I see that Anatoly asked for a reminder about the "internal eyes only" Stephen Doughty blog, in connection with Robbie Gibb. Apologies for the delay, see below:
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2016/ ... kuenssberg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
There was a much more excoriating piece by MediaLens at the time, but I hardly think you need it hammered home that this whole thing stank.
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Best thread yet on Grenfell Tower -its long, but worth it
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There's so much rubbish/lies being spewed about #GrenfellTower that can't be backed up but fit alt-right narrative (1/?)
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There's so much rubbish/lies being spewed about #GrenfellTower that can't be backed up but fit alt-right narrative (1/?)
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Re last night's query about polling - Labour also scored 46% in Panelbase last weekend. But had done so only once previously in Miliband's leadership, and indeed for the last 15 years. They last registered higher in mid-2002, pre the Iraq war build up.
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AAW thanks for that,another reminder why stereotypical misrepresentation is "not useful",wherever it comes from.
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Housing our homeless households - Full Report
The LGA’s report Housing Our Homeless Households responds to rising concern amongst local authorities about the increasing homelessness pressures being faced across the country.
Housing our homeless households - Full Report
The LGA’s report Housing Our Homeless Households responds to rising concern amongst local authorities about the increasing homelessness pressures being faced across the country.
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Mental health service closure undermines parity of esteem pledge
Mental health service closure undermines parity of esteem pledge
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https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... -committeeCorbyn critics win election to Labour parliamentary committee
Internal power struggle continues as supporters of leader including Clive Lewis fail to win enough support to make cut
Critics of Jeremy Corbyn have won election to the party’s parliamentary committee, as the struggle between allies and opponents of the leader continues despite a new eight-point poll lead for Labour.
Among those elected to the influential backbench body, which has a weekly meeting with Corbyn, were Neil Coyle, Graham Jones, Angela Smith and Ruth Smeeth.
Clive Lewis, seen as a potential future leader from the left of the party, and Ian Mearns, a staunch supporter of Corbyn, did not have enough support from fellow MPs to make the cut. (Guardian)
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Did this "influential" institution even get mentioned before Corbyn became leader?
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Well, I'd never heard of it before but I assumed it was a demonstration of my ignorance (despite my being a follower of things political).AnatolyKasparov wrote:Did this "influential" institution even get mentioned before Corbyn became leader?
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https://www.theguardian.com/business/20 ... th-reports" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Fears for UK economy after trio of weaker-than-expected growth reports
Fears for UK economy after trio of weaker-than-expected growth reports
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Apprently, it's "similar" to the 1922 Committee.
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HindleA wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/business/20 ... th-reports
Fears for UK economy after trio of weaker-than-expected growth reports
I wasn't expecting that . . .
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(I cannot help it)
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Stale old white men that like to bray and bang on tables?PorFavor wrote:Apprently, it's "similar" to the 1922 Committee.
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Similar in form only, I would say.PorFavor wrote:Apprently, it's "similar" to the 1922 Committee.
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As in the Bold and the Beautiful bold?http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/1539 ... of_Brexit/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
G20 summit: May insists Britain will be "bold" on world stage despite uncertainties of Brexit
Or as in the equivalent of speechless in : rarely seen historical photographs that will leave you speechless bold?
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or merely bold as in completely deluded bold?
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... despite-eu
May Restates Goal of Frictionless Trade After Brexit Despite EU
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Fucked up UK decides Climate change 'not a priority'
Find it hard to believe there was a time when I though Cameron and Osborne was as bad as the Tories could get.http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 26846.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Following up on Dan Hannan's whine about academics...
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"Bold" as delivered by Kenneth Williams.tinyclanger2 wrote:As in the Bold and the Beautiful bold?http://www.heraldscotland.com/news/1539 ... of_Brexit/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
G20 summit: May insists Britain will be "bold" on world stage despite uncertainties of Brexit
Or as in the equivalent of speechless in : rarely seen historical photographs that will leave you speechless bold?
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don't we know itRogerOThornhill wrote:Following up on Dan Hannan's whine about academics...
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Bold is Bold
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Unexpected boldness
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Expected nonboldness
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Didn't know Kenneth Williams was a washing powder salesman.
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Collared dove session at bird bath,rota system seems to be working.
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PIP reassessments cause more than half DLA claimants to lose Motability rights
They've got to get some of the £750million splurged out some way,to be fair,many times more in ATW taxi fare replacements not withstanding.
PIP reassessments cause more than half DLA claimants to lose Motability rights
They've got to get some of the £750million splurged out some way,to be fair,many times more in ATW taxi fare replacements not withstanding.
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Is that a euphemism?HindleA wrote:Didn't know Kenneth Williams was a washing powder salesman.
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"Stop messing about"
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One for AK
"She can move in any direction you know..." (Need to click in to enlarge it to get the full effect.)
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"She can move in any direction you know..." (Need to click in to enlarge it to get the full effect.)
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Adonis seems to be doing a lot of this "Oh woe, what did I unleash?" lately...
I put up tuition fees. It’s now clear they have to be scrapped
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... rew-adonis
I assume the next one will be "I only meant for a few failing schools to become academies to turn them around..."
I put up tuition fees. It’s now clear they have to be scrapped
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... rew-adonis
How indeed...How did we get from the idea of a reasonable contribution to the cost of university tuition – the principle of the Blair reform of 2004, for which I was largely responsible – to today’s Frankenstein’s monster of £50,000-plus debts for graduates on modest salaries who can’t remotely afford to pay back these sums while starting families? And why did we give university vice-chancellors a licence to print money, and pay themselves £400,000 salaries, in a decade when austerity has dominated every other public service, including schools and hospitals?
I assume the next one will be "I only meant for a few failing schools to become academies to turn them around..."
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https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... rew-adonisI put up tuition fees. It’s now clear they have to be scrapped
Andrew Adonis
Debts of £50,000 for graduates are far more than I envisaged, and make the system unworkable
Tuition fees of £9,250 and rising won’t survive. Nor do they deserve to. The only question is whether they are abolished entirely or whether cross-party support can be built to keep fees to between £1,000 and £3,000, as per their introduction 13 years ago.
Not too sure that he's sure that they should be scrapped, though.
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You beat me, again!
You beat me, again!
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Thanks for this. Worth the read.AngryAsWell wrote:Best thread yet on Grenfell Tower -its long, but worth it
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Of course for clarity maybe it is a good thing that there is an amnesty, because of course everyone know those pesky illegals will do anything for a chance to become legal. When they don't turn up, for the obvious reasons, those who love ranting about such things will not have a leg to stand on. Of course they will have some crazy theories, but at least the rest of everyone will be able to see just how bad it has become. That alt-right narrative that ten years ago was a minority grievance and is currently a major driver of our national insanity.
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Week in Review: Brexit debate moves on, but May is stuck in the past
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RogerOThornhill wrote:Adonis seems to be doing a lot of this "Oh woe, what did I unleash?" lately...
I put up tuition fees. It’s now clear they have to be scrapped
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... rew-adonis
How indeed...How did we get from the idea of a reasonable contribution to the cost of university tuition – the principle of the Blair reform of 2004, for which I was largely responsible – to today’s Frankenstein’s monster of £50,000-plus debts for graduates on modest salaries who can’t remotely afford to pay back these sums while starting families? And why did we give university vice-chancellors a licence to print money, and pay themselves £400,000 salaries, in a decade when austerity has dominated every other public service, including schools and hospitals?
I assume the next one will be "I only meant for a few failing schools to become academies to turn them around..."
And his funding alternative is?
More entrepreneurialism.
Pretty poor.
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I know that my presence is essential to the enjoyment of all:
After that I'm here, live, "direct from langthwaite arkengarthdale"
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so just to let you know i'll be away until the end of next week.After that I'm here, live, "direct from langthwaite arkengarthdale"
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Have a good time away from here, and I look forward to your return
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