Tuesday 11th July 2017
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Tuesday 11th July 2017
Morning all.
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Morning.
I just wanted to say that "I apologise for any offence caused" is one of the most nauseating, insincere phrases in modern English and it should be called out at every possible opportunity.
I just wanted to say that "I apologise for any offence caused" is one of the most nauseating, insincere phrases in modern English and it should be called out at every possible opportunity.
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I misspoke. It was not my intention to insult. I was overtired, I'm a hard working MP. Lessons have been learnt. Let's move on.
It would appear that a lot of the press think that there's nothing to report and move on from.
It would appear that a lot of the press think that there's nothing to report and move on from.
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I think Crosby is utterly deluded here, hope that's not wishful thinking.
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"All the evidence I’ve seen, is that, if another referendum were to be held now, more people would vote to leave the EU now than in the referendum,” he said.
Speaking at a business lunch in Sydney on Tuesday, Crosby attempted to explain the phenomenon of Jeremy Corbyn.
“On polling day, over 70% of voters thought the Conservatives were going to win,” Crosby said.
“So they thought we’ll reward [Corbyn] for being prepared to talk about interesting things and shake the system up, but we’ll still have the comfort of having Theresa May as prime minister at the end of the day,” he said.
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People like being 'right', on the winning side. The under 25s percentage turnout increase. Crosby ignores these two points and lines up his next GE pitch.gilsey wrote:I think Crosby is utterly deluded here, hope that's not wishful thinking.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... l-election" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;"All the evidence I’ve seen, is that, if another referendum were to be held now, more people would vote to leave the EU now than in the referendum,” he said.
Speaking at a business lunch in Sydney on Tuesday, Crosby attempted to explain the phenomenon of Jeremy Corbyn.
“On polling day, over 70% of voters thought the Conservatives were going to win,” Crosby said.
“So they thought we’ll reward [Corbyn] for being prepared to talk about interesting things and shake the system up, but we’ll still have the comfort of having Theresa May as prime minister at the end of the day,” he said.
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Strewth, is there anything this desperate, appalling woman ever gets right?
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Foges v Isabel Oakeshott v Camilla Long must be the tightest photo finish in right-wing shitbag history.
Foges v Isabel Oakeshott v Camilla Long must be the tightest photo finish in right-wing shitbag history.
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Ivor Biggun was Doc Cox from the latter stages of That's Life.HindleA wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radi ... nkers-song
I still believe in a town called Hope
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Equally break from unpaid carer.
Equally break from unpaid carer.
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Well, most of the actual evidence recently suggests a move towards remain - though it shouldn't be exaggerated either, things are still pretty close.gilsey wrote:I think Crosby is utterly deluded here, hope that's not wishful thinking.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... l-election" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;"All the evidence I’ve seen, is that, if another referendum were to be held now, more people would vote to leave the EU now than in the referendum,” he said.
Speaking at a business lunch in Sydney on Tuesday, Crosby attempted to explain the phenomenon of Jeremy Corbyn.
“On polling day, over 70% of voters thought the Conservatives were going to win,” Crosby said.
“So they thought we’ll reward [Corbyn] for being prepared to talk about interesting things and shake the system up, but we’ll still have the comfort of having Theresa May as prime minister at the end of the day,” he said.
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Good morfternoon.
Why does that make my soul shrivel?And she [Theresa May] praises those who start businesses.
As aspiration becomes reality, as an idea becomes an invoice, we will back those who dare to dream and who dare to think big. (Politics Live, Guardian - my emphasis)
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Let's not forget JHB and Allison "I was really left wing once" Pearson, shall we?NonOxCol wrote:
Foges v Isabel Oakeshott v Camilla Long must be the tightest photo finish in right-wing shitbag history.
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It is a downright weird turn of phrase without doubt, and one I have never heard before.PorFavor wrote:Good morfternoon.
Why does that make my soul shrivel?And she [Theresa May] praises those who start businesses.
As aspiration becomes reality, as an idea becomes an invoice, we will back those who dare to dream and who dare to think big. (Politics Live, Guardian - my emphasis)
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As an aside, when did mince on toast become a thing?
Never heard of it before.
Never heard of it before.
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Me neither, though some suggestions it is Scottish derived? Which would not be massively surprising if trueRogerOThornhill wrote:As an aside, when did mince on toast become a thing?
Never heard of it before.
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I liked this response to Foges belowNonOxCol wrote:
Foges v Isabel Oakeshott v Camilla Long must be the tightest photo finish in right-wing shitbag history.
"The privileged feel offended again."
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Good-afternoon, everyone
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Fuck this grotesque little individual and every single helper and puffer he's had along the way.
Fuck this grotesque little individual and every single helper and puffer he's had along the way.
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I love mince on toast!AnatolyKasparov wrote:Me neither, though some suggestions it is Scottish derived? Which would not be massively surprising if trueRogerOThornhill wrote:As an aside, when did mince on toast become a thing?
Never heard of it before.
Usually eaten when there is some spare mince from the kids' tea and I come in later
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Left over bol might also get the same treatment.... Or chilli
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With pfy on this, have been known to have Surplus Bolognese or Chilli on toast, next day, delicious, but just easier than cooking more rice, hardly a 'thing'.RogerOThornhill wrote:As an aside, when did mince on toast become a thing?
Never heard of it before.
Maybe it's been confused with Beef Dripping on toast?
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All the fault of a chef from Portsmouth, apparently.
All the fault of a chef from Portsmouth, apparently.
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Nigel Slater in one of his cookbooks says that he was taught to serve toast soldiers with mince.
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Corbyn about May.
"The prime minister now heads a zombie government that has no ideas, no answers and no leadership. Her premiership has run out of steam and she will soon have to deal with her own insecure employment." Feel the burn!
"The prime minister now heads a zombie government that has no ideas, no answers and no leadership. Her premiership has run out of steam and she will soon have to deal with her own insecure employment." Feel the burn!
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You're humanPorFavor wrote:Good morfternoon.Why does that make my soul shrivel?And she [Theresa May] praises those who start businesses.
As aspiration becomes reality, as an idea becomes an invoice, we will back those who dare to dream and who dare to think big. (Politics Live, Guardian - my emphasis)
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Cable edging closer to assisting May whilst bashing Corbyn. Good old Lib Dems.
"Ten years’ work by David Cameron to detoxify the brand has been trashed by what they are now doing, clinging to power, the DUP. And on the other side - we all have to admire what Jeremy Corbyn did, he massively outperformed everyone’s expectation. There is something inherently implausible about a modern party competing for promise on a programme of Venezuelan socialism - simply unreal."
"Ten years’ work by David Cameron to detoxify the brand has been trashed by what they are now doing, clinging to power, the DUP. And on the other side - we all have to admire what Jeremy Corbyn did, he massively outperformed everyone’s expectation. There is something inherently implausible about a modern party competing for promise on a programme of Venezuelan socialism - simply unreal."
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"Five years toxifying the brand I am coming out with any old shit."
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Pre Cameron the Tories would never have targeted the sick/disabled in the way they did,personally I saw the "detoxify"thing as the opposite.Pretence of "protection",only makes them worse IMHO,still chasing hospital beds for spare room payments.
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So...the parents and teachers for Excellence are doing everything they can to convince everyone they are, in their own words, a "non-political campaign"
This is from their new director
Ofsted is right - the battle against fake news can be won in the classroom
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/20 ... classroom/
I asked, but with predictably no response, whether they'd campaigned against grammar schools that were in the Tory manifesto given the evidence against them.
This is from their new director
Ofsted is right - the battle against fake news can be won in the classroom
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/20 ... classroom/
OK, maybe you're not trying too hard...and since when were campaign promises "fake news"?Why? Well, you are less likely to buy into vapour trail conspiracies if your science lessons have covered phase changes for water and the chemical composition of jet fuel. The Protocols of the Elders of Zion or sermons by ISIS-sympathising preachers are going to hold less sway over you if you have a decent grounding in theology, the Abrahamic faiths and the history of the Middle East. And the wild promises of Donald Trump or Jeremy Corbyn can be more rationally analysed if you have been taught the basics of economics or the history of twentieth century Europe and the USA.
I asked, but with predictably no response, whether they'd campaigned against grammar schools that were in the Tory manifesto given the evidence against them.
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(cJA bold)StephenDolan wrote:Cable edging closer to assisting May whilst bashing Corbyn. Good old Lib Dems.
"Ten years’ work by David Cameron to detoxify the brand has been trashed by what they are now doing, clinging to power, the DUP. And on the other side - we all have to admire what Jeremy Corbyn did, he massively outperformed everyone’s expectation. There is something inherently implausible about a modern party competing for promise on a programme of Venezuelan socialism - simply unreal."
An anonymous troll below the line would be embarrassed hitting 'post' on that part
Inaccurate and witless
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Saw this earlier.
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And yes, that is the Digby Jones who used to be Director General of the CBI...
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And yes, that is the Digby Jones who used to be Director General of the CBI...
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(cJA edit)RogerOThornhill wrote:So...the parents and teachers for Excellence are doing everything they can to convince everyone they are, in their own words, a "non-political campaign"
Insisting they're non-political then writing a political piece is unconvincing. Only readers in agreement already will believe it.
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AgreedHindleA wrote:Pre Cameron the Tories would never have targeted the sick/disabled in the way they did,personally I saw the "detoxify"thing as the opposite.Pretence of "protection",only makes them worse IMHO,still chasing hospital beds for spare room payments.
The last seven years of Tory government characterised by saying one thing and doing the opposite
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I'm not sure that installing Roger Scruton as their President was that 'non-political' either...citizenJA wrote:(cJA edit)RogerOThornhill wrote:So...the parents and teachers for Excellence are doing everything they can to convince everyone they are, in their own words, a "non-political campaign"
Insisting they're non-political then writing a political piece is unconvincing. Only readers in agreement already will believe it.
He wrote an article for The Spectator that was a "poor me - no-one liked me at the University of London" about events that took place three decades ago. The idea that the UoL is anti-knowledge is laughable.
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I thought it was Scrotum,when did he change his name?
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There is a sizeable Venn diagram overlap between those who blithely throw "Venezuela"-type epithets around and those who whine piteously about any use of the term "neoliberal".
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Taylor says
Meaningless waffle is all there is.
We're governed by idiots.people may disagree with some of the recommendations, but there is strong support for the idea that people should have good jobs.
Meaningless waffle is all there is.
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Agreed,and I should know.
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Yes, agreedNonOxCol wrote:Morning.
I just wanted to say that "I apologise for any offence caused" is one of the most nauseating, insincere phrases in modern English and it should be called out at every possible opportunity.
I been thinking about this on and off all afternoon
Sincere apologies are felt throughout entire body words and other language are unmistakable
I know when I'm sorry and I can't fake it
Can't unsay or undo what's been done so there's only now
Apology might not get accepted and that's another's right
I accept
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The scales of justice can seem very unbalanced’ – an interview with barrister Tom Royston
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Controversial, that Taylor fellow
supporting the idea sounds radical
supporting the idea sounds radical
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Well done Konta
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The Taylor review: the yay, the meh, and the no way
The Taylor review: the yay, the meh, and the no way