Monday 17th July 2017
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Monday 17th July 2017
Morning all.
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Cabinet "tearing itself apart"
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Cabinet "tearing itself apart"
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Re: Monday 17th July 2017
I think I've worked out why a link I posted yesterday didn't work, it was from Google to an article on Conservative Home & linked to a encrypted URL (HTTPS).
If you go directly to the website it's has unencrypted http links and there's no problem.
I probably just (stupidly) clicked to accept the HTTPS site (obv. because who wouldn't trust conservativehome).
Anyway, that's my theory, it's all Google's fault.
If you go directly to the website it's has unencrypted http links and there's no problem.
I probably just (stupidly) clicked to accept the HTTPS site (obv. because who wouldn't trust conservativehome).
Anyway, that's my theory, it's all Google's fault.
Re: Monday 17th July 2017
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Jeremy Corbyn should be involved in the Brexit talks, says Guy Verhofstadt
Re: Monday 17th July 2017
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Interesting on investment, or rather lack of, from the private sector despite the almost complete absence of investment from the public sector. So much for the "crowding out" theory.Governments have to invest in the fourth industrial revolution
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tinybgoat wrote:http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 39746.html
Jeremy Corbyn should be involved in the Brexit talks, says Guy Verhofstadt
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Morning all...
Ouch.
My Tory party has gambled away its reputation. It needs more than a new leader
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... new-leader
Ouch.
My Tory party has gambled away its reputation. It needs more than a new leader
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... new-leader
So how did the party of Burke bring us the maelstrom of 2017? Tory governments once claimed themselves our benevolent parents. But living in modern Britain feels like being one of a family of anxious, squabbling children whose parents have abandoned us to get drunk at the casino. Since the night of the Brexit referendum, when my Tory friend celebrated, sterling has lost 12% of its value against the dollar. Tory policies once promised a haven from global unrest. Now, they seem to provoke it.
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Re: Monday 17th July 2017
Edu select committee should be very entertaining given the firepower that Labour brings to it.
Lucy Powell joins two teachers in education committee line-up
http://schoolsweek.co.uk/lucy-powell-jo ... e-line-up/
Lucy Powell joins two teachers in education committee line-up
http://schoolsweek.co.uk/lucy-powell-jo ... e-line-up/
Excellent.It was reported on Saturday that Emma Hardy, a former teacher, NUT activist and Schools Week columnist, had been elected to serve on the committee.
And it has since been confirmed that Thelma Walker, a former headteacher who was elected to represent Colne Valley in June, will also serve, as will James Frith, the former head of careers education social enterprise All Together.
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Thelma is my new MP. Happy for herRogerOThornhill wrote:Edu select committee should be very entertaining given the firepower that Labour brings to it.
Lucy Powell joins two teachers in education committee line-up
http://schoolsweek.co.uk/lucy-powell-jo ... e-line-up/
Excellent.It was reported on Saturday that Emma Hardy, a former teacher, NUT activist and Schools Week columnist, had been elected to serve on the committee.
And it has since been confirmed that Thelma Walker, a former headteacher who was elected to represent Colne Valley in June, will also serve, as will James Frith, the former head of careers education social enterprise All Together.
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Re: Monday 17th July 2017
One for you Roger?
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Re: Monday 17th July 2017
I thought Gus O'Donnell's line was good.PaulfromYorkshire wrote:http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 44116.html
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The EU has clear negotiating guidelines, while it appears that cabinet members haven’t yet finished negotiating with each other, never mind the EU
One world, like it or not - John Martyn
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Government welfare cuts blamed for 50% surge in mental health issues among unemployed
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Re: Monday 17th July 2017
Ignoring the obligatory dig at McDonnell, this is fun.
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Philip Hammond is the most overpaid public sector worker in the country
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Philip Hammond is the most overpaid public sector worker in the country
One grey, middle aged robot with the charisma of a 1950s BBC continuity announcer, the rhetorical flair of a field of wheat, and the gift for radiating empathy of a comatose sociopath, should sate the Tory appetite. Two in a row would be suicide.
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Classic trollingtinybgoat wrote:http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 39746.html
Jeremy Corbyn should be involved in the Brexit talks, says Guy Verhofstadt
"IS TONTY BLAIR BEHIND THIS???!!!!111???!!!"
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Interesting, especially the maps.
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Radio 4's 'More or Less' did this one a few years ago - you can listen to it hereStephenDolan wrote:Interesting, especially the maps.
http://www.statsmapsnpix.com/2017/07/wh ... a.html?m=1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Thanks Adam.adam wrote:Radio 4's 'More or Less' did this one a few years ago - you can listen to it hereStephenDolan wrote:Interesting, especially the maps.
http://www.statsmapsnpix.com/2017/07/wh ... a.html?m=1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Well, yes.
Well, yes.
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And re yesterday's chatter following the Doctor Who announcement, the Labour party has actually had two women leaders.
(both short term, yes, but constitutionally fully in charge of the leadership in that period - not just "acting")
There is another major party who has never had a woman even temporarily in charge.......
(both short term, yes, but constitutionally fully in charge of the leadership in that period - not just "acting")
There is another major party who has never had a woman even temporarily in charge.......
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Re: Monday 17th July 2017
Good morfternoon.
According to the TV news, David Davis spent a whole "couple of hours" at the EU negotiations today. He's now left.
According to the TV news, David Davis spent a whole "couple of hours" at the EU negotiations today. He's now left.
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We can but admire his selfless sacrifice.PorFavor wrote:Good morfternoon.
According to the TV news, David Davis spent a whole "couple of hours" at the EU negotiations today. He's now left.
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Re: Monday 17th July 2017
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Rail firms that fail on disability should lose franchise – thinktank
Rail firms that fail on disability should lose franchise – thinktank
Re: Monday 17th July 2017
More on "David Davis has left the building" -
David Davis, the Brexit secretary, has already left Brussels - not because he left his notes at home (see 10.08am) but because most of the talks this week are being conducted by officials, not by the principals. He will be back on Thursday when he will hold talks with Michel Barnier before the two men give a press conference. (Politics Live, Guardian)
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Guidance
HB Bulletin: G7/2017
Info concerning runaround with two child policy,and legislation introduction of the sick/disabled/carers (continued) residualisation/negation of previous contributions policy,amongst others
Guidance
HB Bulletin: G7/2017
Info concerning runaround with two child policy,and legislation introduction of the sick/disabled/carers (continued) residualisation/negation of previous contributions policy,amongst others
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Re: Monday 17th July 2017
Moving steadily from "most situations are temporary,if they are not tough" to blanket removal regardless.
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Anyone listen to Dead Ringers on R4 ?PorFavor wrote:More on "David Davis has left the building" -
David Davis, the Brexit secretary, has already left Brussels - not because he left his notes at home (see 10.08am) but because most of the talks this week are being conducted by officials, not by the principals. He will be back on Thursday when he will hold talks with Michel Barnier before the two men give a press conference. (Politics Live, Guardian)
"Brexit Bulldog" has Davies down to T
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I'm afraid I started to read that, and straight away came up against this. Clear as mud.HindleA wrote:https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... tin-g72017
Guidance
HB Bulletin: G7/2017
Info concerning runaround with two child policy,and legislation introduction of the sick/disabled/carers (continued) residualisation/negation of previous contributions policy,amongst others
It's not just me is it? 4 says you can't claim UC if you've got more than 2 kids, but 5 calls you a UC claimant anyway.Claimants with more than two children
4. Claimants with three or more children or QYPs will not be able to make a new
claim for Universal Credit, unless the claimant:
• has been in receipt of Universal Credit within the previous six month period
and is making a re-claim
• is making a new claim as a single person within one month of a previous
joint claim ending, because they are no longer a member of a couple
5. New Universal Credit claimants with more than two children or QYPs will need
to apply for Child Tax Credit and any other benefits they may be entitled to
including HB.
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Barclays bank and former bosses to stand trial in January 2019
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And lo, the number on UC is high, but the amount claimed is low. It works!gilsey wrote:I'm afraid I started to read that, and straight away came up against this. Clear as mud.HindleA wrote:https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... tin-g72017
Guidance
HB Bulletin: G7/2017
Info concerning runaround with two child policy,and legislation introduction of the sick/disabled/carers (continued) residualisation/negation of previous contributions policy,amongst othersIt's not just me is it? 4 says you can't claim UC if you've got more than 2 kids, but 5 calls you a UC claimant anyway.Claimants with more than two children
4. Claimants with three or more children or QYPs will not be able to make a new
claim for Universal Credit, unless the claimant:
• has been in receipt of Universal Credit within the previous six month period
and is making a re-claim
• is making a new claim as a single person within one month of a previous
joint claim ending, because they are no longer a member of a couple
5. New Universal Credit claimants with more than two children or QYPs will need
to apply for Child Tax Credit and any other benefits they may be entitled to
including HB.
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A British diplomat has said Brexit talks on the issue of a frictionaless border in Ireland are “stuck” because a solution cannot be found in isolation from the final deal on the UK’s relationship with the EU.
Neil Holland, deputy head of mission at the British Embassy, told the Magill summer school in Donegal on Monday that the Good Friday Agreement on peace in Northern Ireland had “the highest level of agreement” possible from all sides involved in discussions.
“The problem is how to get from A to B, how to get from the political assertion to the realities soft border,” said Holland.
You can’t have a discussion about what Northern Ireland should look like before we know the nature of the replacement relationship, so we are kind of stuck. Until we know the shape of the future agreement [it’s very difficult to know how that would look.] (Politics Live, Guardian)
Re: Monday 17th July 2017
David Davis has called upon both sides to "get down to business". (BBC TV news)
He then added, "Must dash . . .".
He then added, "Must dash . . .".
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(I can't help it)
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Rather to the point, you might say?HindleA wrote:-
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FWIW according to StatXplore as of December'16 which it is stuck at (recent months otherwise given will be subject to a high degree of revision-their words) about 42,000 receivers of UC have any children(3 to 1 single) and receive(d)the housing element.Just to put the reality/context of" x million claims" and" fully rolled out"
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Point of order, is that a dash or a minus?
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Two dashes minus a dash.tinybgoat wrote:Point of order, is that a dash or a minus?
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Rayner sticking it to Greening.
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I contend.
- dash
pick-me-up hyphen(s)
5-2 minus.
- dash
pick-me-up hyphen(s)
5-2 minus.
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https://www.theguardian.com/education/2 ... -standards" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
School makes pupils wear signs if uniform doesn't meet standards
School makes pupils wear signs if uniform doesn't meet standards
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She's genuinely ace. One of those who was thrown in at the deep end last summer, and actually thrived on it.StephenDolan wrote:Rayner sticking it to Greening.
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Nope, they all look suspiciously like minuses to meHindleA wrote:I contend.
- dash
pick-me-up hyphen(s)
5-2 minus.
http://www.punctuationmatters.com/hyphe ... nd-m-dash/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
- minus
– hyphen
– en-dash (or ndash or n-dash)
— em-dash (or mdash or m-dash)
edited to add sorry, I know it's sad but had already gone as far as copy & pasted each minus, dash & hyphen 10 times, to compare lengths ..
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Isn't that a bit of a.........well..........Cultural Revolution vibe??HindleA wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/education/2 ... -standards
School makes pupils wear signs if uniform doesn't meet standards
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Flagged by "moi" over a year agoAnatolyKasparov wrote:She's genuinely ace. One of those who was thrown in at the deep end last summer, and actually thrived on it.StephenDolan wrote:Rayner sticking it to Greening.
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Tinybgoat.I bow to your obvious superior knowledge.I blame my keyboard.
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Justine Greening statement to parliament on lack of school funding
Justine Greening statement to parliament on lack of school funding
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Day two of Brexit talks – and the UK looks as underprepared as ever
Day two of Brexit talks – and the UK looks as underprepared as ever
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Companies face new UK levies to fund post-Brexit regulators
Companies face new UK levies to fund post-Brexit regulators
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Improving fire safety under housing legislation
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Improving fire safety under housing legislation
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Tory MPs Stop Public Submitting Petitions To Government Until At Least September
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