Saturday 22nd July & Sunday 23rd July 2017

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 22 Jul, 2017 6:27 am

Morning.

A wet and windy one here and the weather is not much better.

Children in temporary housing up a third since 2014

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-40685901" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 22 Jul, 2017 6:30 am

https://www.theguardian.com/money/2017/ ... mastercard" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

UK court blocks £14bn class action case against MasterCard

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 22 Jul, 2017 6:36 am

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... eproducing" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The Guardian view on historical fiction: reimagining, not reproducing
Editorial

http://themanbookerprize.com/news/judge ... onal-prize" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 22 Jul, 2017 7:28 am

https://www.disabilitynewsservice.com/m ... arliament/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

McDonnell calls for disabled-led solution to care crisis, as DPAC occupies parliament

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 22 Jul, 2017 7:29 am

https://www.disabilitynewsservice.com/c ... an-ruling/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Concerns over council’s post-18 support after ombudsman ruling

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 22 Jul, 2017 7:32 am

https://municipaldreams.wordpress.com/2 ... e_in_time/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Ian Waites, ‘Middlefield: A postwar council estate in time’

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 22 Jul, 2017 8:26 am

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... oliticians" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Post by **PaulfromYorkshire** » Sat 22 Jul, 2017 8:39 am

Morning A

A question for Anatoly, or anyone else who knows.

Members of the from Yorkshire family had a chess conundrum last night. We know you aren't allowed to castle out of check. But if it's your only option (i.e. otherwise it's checkmate) can you castle?

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 22 Jul, 2017 8:51 am

~~Sit to be corrected but still applies AFAIK~~.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 22 Jul, 2017 9:09 am

Guardian on Government's holistic approach to homelessness.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/201 ... n-rises-37" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Sat 22 Jul, 2017 10:40 am

Yes, you can castle in those circumstances as long as none of the other prohibitions on it apply.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 22 Jul, 2017 10:50 am

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyl ... mazon-says" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Pet translators will be on sale soon, Amazon says

Post by **PaulfromYorkshire** » Sat 22 Jul, 2017 10:50 am

AnatolyKasparov wrote:Yes, you can castle in those circumstances as long as none of the other prohibitions on it apply.

Thank you

So, that neither piece has moved previously, that you don't castle through check....

I can't think of any more

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 22 Jul, 2017 10:54 am

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... ter-brexit" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 22 Jul, 2017 10:56 am

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/ ... yers-union" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Ashes series under threat from Australia pay dispute, says players union – report

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 22 Jul, 2017 10:58 am

Australia

https://www.theguardian.com/australia-n ... pside-down" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

A Turnbull government minister has taken the novel approach of changing the definition of poverty t

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 22 Jul, 2017 11:06 am

https://www.theguardian.com/money/blog/ ... simplistic" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Sat 22 Jul, 2017 11:07 am

PaulfromYorkshire wrote:
AnatolyKasparov wrote:Yes, you can castle in those circumstances as long as none of the other prohibitions on it apply.
Thank you

So, that neither piece has moved previously, that you don't castle through check....

I can't think of any more

You can't castle out of check either.

But you *can* if the rook is attacked or (in the case of Q-side castling) has to pass through an attacked b1/b8 square.

(even world class GMs have been made to look silly by that one)

Post by **PaulfromYorkshire** » Sat 22 Jul, 2017 11:24 am

AnatolyKasparov wrote:
PaulfromYorkshire wrote:
AnatolyKasparov wrote:Yes, you can castle in those circumstances as long as none of the other prohibitions on it apply.
Thank you

So, that neither piece has moved previously, that you don't castle through check....

I can't think of any more
You can't castle out of check either.

But you *can* if the rook is attacked or (in the case of Q-side castling) has to pass through an attacked b1/b8 square.

(even world class GMs have been made to look silly by that one)

Trying to work that one out should keep me busy for the rest of the day

Willow904 · Post by **Willow904** » Sat 22 Jul, 2017 12:30 pm

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... an-stanley" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Is this the Brexit banking exodus Theresa May told us couldn’t happen?

Willow904 · Post by **Willow904** » Sat 22 Jul, 2017 12:32 pm

Financial services employs 7.3% of the UK workforce and, the year before the Brexit vote, contributed a record £71.4bn in taxes, almost 12% of total government tax yield. This puts the Tories in a most awkward position. The party that is supposed to represent clear-sighted financial acumen must now put Brexit ideology before financial sense as far as popular messaging is concerned – while also desperately trying to implore bankers not to leave.

Willow904 · Post by **Willow904** » Sat 22 Jul, 2017 1:30 pm

Twitter thread that makes some good points about Brexit and the left:

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AngryAsWell · Post by **AngryAsWell** » Sat 22 Jul, 2017 1:41 pm

Michael Gove asked me to a meeting to share my expertise. I declined. Instead, I’ve given him a piece of my mind.
Jay Rayner

http://www.jayrayner.co.uk/news/michael ... f-my-mind/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sat 22 Jul, 2017 2:55 pm

Willow904 wrote:
Financial services employs 7.3% of the UK workforce and, the year before the Brexit vote, contributed a record £71.4bn in taxes, almost 12% of total government tax yield. This puts the Tories in a most awkward position. The party that is supposed to represent clear-sighted financial acumen must now put Brexit ideology before financial sense as far as popular messaging is concerned – while also desperately trying to implore bankers not to leave.

Hmm. 1.4 billion a week. 4 times more than Farage's 350 million a week.

Someone needs to start telling it how it is.

AngryAsWell · Post by **AngryAsWell** » Sat 22 Jul, 2017 3:51 pm

The Tides Of History

"When we realise that all the tides of history are flowing in our direction; that we are not beaten, that we represent the future; then when we say it and mean it, we shall lead our people to where they deserve to be led!" – Nye Bevan, 1959

Now Britain is a Socialist Country: How Labour shocked the world and won the 1945 election

https://tidesofhistory.wordpress.com/20 ... -election/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sat 22 Jul, 2017 4:09 pm

Pretty sickening (in my view):

http://www.independent.co.uk/environmen ... 53741.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Golf courses cover 10 times more land than allotments – and get £550,000 in farming subsidies

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sat 22 Jul, 2017 4:09 pm

golf:

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Sat 22 Jul, 2017 5:14 pm

tinyclanger2 wrote:Pretty sickening (in my view):

http://www.independent.co.uk/environmen ... 53741.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Golf courses cover 10 times more land than allotments – and get £550,000 in farming subsidies

Farming subsidies? I'm ashamed to say that that piece of knowledge had, until now, passed me by. Unless my brain simply refused to assimilate it.

Edited - to add a space

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Sat 22 Jul, 2017 5:34 pm

AngryAsWell wrote:Michael Gove asked me to a meeting to share my expertise. I declined. Instead, I’ve given him a piece of my mind.
Jay Rayner

http://www.jayrayner.co.uk/news/michael ... f-my-mind/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Food security and sustainability
Interesting section, this part

"In the early 1990s Britain’s self-sufficiency in food reached its highest in modern times. We were producing just over 70% of all the food we were eating. Since then the story has been one only of decline. We now produce 60% of our own food, but because of exports only around 50% of the food we eat is actually produced here."

I didn't realise domestic food growing and/or production was that high not long ago

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 22 Jul, 2017 5:58 pm

https://www.theguardian.com/business/20 ... rification" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Full speed ahead for train builders as minister pulls plug on electrification
Chris Grayling has axed promised upgrades, but in other areas the industry looks healthy. What’s going on?

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Sat 22 Jul, 2017 6:01 pm

'The path to your house is dimly lit, we'll light it up for you...

All the best,

Captain Swing'

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Sat 22 Jul, 2017 6:03 pm

tinyclanger2 wrote:golf:

Indeed
For more reasons than several, I dislike golf

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 22 Jul, 2017 6:22 pm

https://www.sportengland.org/research/a ... le-survey/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Sat 22 Jul, 2017 6:30 pm

"...[S]ocialism as practised in the War did no one any harm and quite a lot of people good. The children of this country have never been so well-fed or healthy. What milk there was was shared equally. The rich did not die because their meat ration was no larger than the poor, and there is no doubt that this common sharing and feeling of sacrifice was one of the strongest bonds that unified us. So, why, they say, cannot this common feeling of sacrifice be made to work as effectively in peace?”

- Sarah Churchill writing to her dad after Labour GE victory 1945

https://www.gresham.ac.uk/lectures-and- ... ction-1945" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Sat 22 Jul, 2017 6:35 pm

a few take too much while many don't have enough

AngryAsWell · Post by **AngryAsWell** » Sat 22 Jul, 2017 7:19 pm

Well....

Paul Fletcher‏
@P25_Fletch

Replying to @Scientists4EU
You guys seen this from Hannan - brexiteers in full retreat ?

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tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sat 22 Jul, 2017 7:48 pm

HindleA wrote:https://www.sportengland.org/research/a ... le-survey/

golf going down

AngryAsWell · Post by **AngryAsWell** » Sat 22 Jul, 2017 7:49 pm

Japan asks: “Why has Britain gone mad?”

https://infacts.org/japan-asks-britain-gone-mad/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sat 22 Jul, 2017 7:58 pm

Japan is not alone

Willow904 · Post by **Willow904** » Sat 22 Jul, 2017 7:59 pm

But we soon will be.

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Sat 22 Jul, 2017 8:07 pm

AngryAsWell wrote:Japan asks: “Why has Britain gone mad?”

https://infacts.org/japan-asks-britain-gone-mad/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

48% of Britain replies "We have absolutely no idea."

AngryAsWell · Post by **AngryAsWell** » Sat 22 Jul, 2017 8:09 pm

V interesting thread about coffee showing just how little Fox & co understand how import/export works.

Steve Analyst‏
@EmporersNewC

Steve Analyst Retweeted Faisal Islam
1. Liam Fox says there is something wrong. It's the infrastructure, and let's talk about the 'Coffee' claim....

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tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sat 22 Jul, 2017 8:20 pm

https://uk.yahoo.com/finance/news/uk-si ... 57847.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
PARIS (Reuters) - Britain risks losing clout in the aerospace industry, one of its largest skilled employers, due to concerns over its departure from the European Union, a corporate overhaul at Airbus and a new Franco-German push on defense, industry insiders say.

Initiatives from a new continental combat jet to a decision by Airbus (AIR.PA) to downgrade its UK representation, as well as the redeployment of some research projects, have left the $90-billion UK sector feeling increasingly sidelined.

I sense quagmire. Would welcome views on how this can work out because try as I might I can't see it.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sat 22 Jul, 2017 8:31 pm

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HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 22 Jul, 2017 9:51 pm

https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 ... fit-freeze" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

100 tenants a day lose homes as rising rents and benefit freeze hit

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Sat 22 Jul, 2017 10:33 pm

Ugh, what an amazingly triggering pic

EDIT: is that why its now gone??

RE-EDIT: no such luck, it appears

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sat 22 Jul, 2017 10:34 pm

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 53451.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

: theresa-may-0.jpg (115.86 KiB) Viewed 26722 times

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sat 22 Jul, 2017 10:35 pm

AnatolyKasparov wrote:Ugh, what an amazingly triggering pic

EDIT: is that why its now gone??

It was a bit big so have edited accordingly.
My blood literally ran cold.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sat 22 Jul, 2017 10:37 pm

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 53286.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Sadiq Khan has said he opposes a controversial major international arms fair taking place in London – but that he does not have the powers to stop it from happening.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sat 22 Jul, 2017 10:40 pm

https://bdaily.co.uk/articles/2017/07/2 ... -to-brexit" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
New figures released by the London Chamber of Commerce and Industry have suggested that the exodus of EU workers from the capital as a result of Brexit may already have begun much earlier than anyone anticipated.
In a poll for the Chamber conducted by ComRes which surveyed over 500 of London’s businesses, nearly a third (31%) of businesses who employed EU workers said they had lost employees as a result of Brexit.
For larger businesses, that is those with ten or more staff, the impact was even more pronounced with 40% of those surveyed claiming that they had lost EU staff as a direct result of the Brexit vote.