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Re: Wednesday 2nd August 2017

Posted: Wed 02 Aug, 2017 6:07 pm
by Willow904
(Dunkirk spirit)

Re: Wednesday 2nd August 2017

Posted: Wed 02 Aug, 2017 6:18 pm
by howsillyofme1
gilsey wrote:I should be able to answer that but I don't think I can.
More often bottled than you get here.
'Pression' we usually ask for small or large! Have occasionally idled away the time wondering what the measure was but I can't remember the answer. Small is third of a litre maybe.

hsom will know.
une choppe de pression - 500ml

Re: Wednesday 2nd August 2017

Posted: Wed 02 Aug, 2017 6:33 pm
by Willow904
Although the US retains the Imperial system, their gallon isn't the same as our gallon so our pint is bigger than their pint.

I think the term "pint" was commonly used across Europe for a drink, but they've been using the metric system a long time so such "pints" in actual measurement terms have long been 1/2 litre or whatever, not a British Imperial pint, which we gave to the world but has been pretty much abandoned by everyone else, including our old colonies of Australia and New Zealand, bar Ireland which, let's face it, is why they are our favourites. That and Guinness.

Re: Wednesday 2nd August 2017

Posted: Wed 02 Aug, 2017 6:37 pm
by Willow904
Oh and Irish coffee, of course.

Although I prefer brandy in mine.

Re: Wednesday 2nd August 2017

Posted: Wed 02 Aug, 2017 7:05 pm
by tinybgoat
'I arst you civil enough, didn't I?' said the old man, straightening his shoulders pugnaciously. 'You telling me you ain't got a pint mug in the 'ole bleeding boozer?'
'And what in hell's name is a pint?' said the barman, leaning forward with the tips of his fingers on the counter.
'Ark at 'im! Calls 'isself a barman and don't know what a pint is! Why, a pint's the 'alf of a quart, and there's four quarts to the gallon. 'Ave to teach you the A, B, C next.'
'Never heard of 'em,' said the barman shortly. 'Litre and half litre -- that's all we serve. There's the glasses on the shelf in front of you.
Hmm, remembered some Orwell at last, funny which bits of O'levels stay with you.
edit - having completely forgotten Emmanuel Goldstein, some weeks back

Re: Wednesday 2nd August 2017

Posted: Wed 02 Aug, 2017 7:09 pm
by HindleA
https://www.theplanner.co.uk/news/consu ... ed-delayed" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The Department for Communities and Local Government has confirmed the consultation on assessing local housing need has been delayed until Parliament returns in September.

Re: Wednesday 2nd August 2017

Posted: Wed 02 Aug, 2017 7:30 pm
by Willow904
https://amp.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... eea-brexit" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Cross-party group of MPs hope to force a vote on UK staying in EEA
This article covers a lot of ground, throwing up some interesting issues:
But it is legally uncertain whether the UK is able to leave the EEA without the permission of parliament, after the high court ruled this year that it was too soon to make a judgment. As recently as March, David Davis, the Brexit secretary, said it was likely that parliament would have to have a say on any changes to the European Economic Area Act 1993, but since the election, there may now be no majority for exiting the EEA.

The official government position is that the UK will leave the EEA automatically when it leaves the EU, but a Whitehall source told the Guardian that view is not shared by all the government’s lawyers or ministers.
The 'Repeal Bill' is going to force a lot of hands on all sides of the house, I suspect. Unless article 50 is revocable, it's essential it passes and the form it passes in will have significant effects.

Re: Wednesday 2nd August 2017

Posted: Wed 02 Aug, 2017 7:32 pm
by HindleA
https://www.gov.uk/government/collectio ... fell-tower" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Information relating to the fire at Grenfell Tower

(updated}

Re: Wednesday 2nd August 2017

Posted: Wed 02 Aug, 2017 7:44 pm
by tinybgoat
HindleA wrote:https://www.theplanner.co.uk/news/consu ... ed-delayed

The Department for Communities and Local Government has confirmed the consultation on assessing local housing need has been delayed until Parliament returns in September.
, the government has clearly concluded that efforts to force councils to increase the number of homes in their local plans is too much of a political hot-potato.”
Which gives me an incredibly poor excuse to link to the almost totally unconnected (except for potatoes)

[youtube]yQ9IOEpGlr4[/youtube]

Daughter inflicted it on me, but was worth sticking with for some of the comments. (esp. starchy & staple leadership)

Re: Wednesday 2nd August 2017

Posted: Wed 02 Aug, 2017 8:35 pm
by citizenJA
HindleA wrote:https://www.gov.uk/government/collectio ... fell-tower

Information relating to the fire at Grenfell Tower

(updated}
Amazing what can be done when government decides to bust a move
Power and resources exist
Distribute equitably the proceeds of work everyone does

Re: Wednesday 2nd August 2017

Posted: Wed 02 Aug, 2017 8:41 pm
by HindleA
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... ngle-payer" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


Bernie Sanders pushes universal health plan in wake of Republican repeal failure
Sanders to tout ‘Medicare for All’ proposal before unveiling bill next month

Re: Wednesday 2nd August 2017

Posted: Wed 02 Aug, 2017 8:52 pm
by HindleA
https://www.disabilityrightsuk.org/news ... d-students" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;



MPs urge rule change to enable UC to be payable to disabled students
02 August 2017
Seven members of the All Party Parliamentary Group (APPG) on Disability have written to the DWP Minister Damian Hinds to urge that all full-time disabled students who receive DLA or PIP be eligible to receive Universal Credit.

Universal Credit, which replaces means tested benefits such as Employment and Support Allowance (ESA) and Housing Benefit (HB) is being increasingly 'rolled out’ to more UK areas in its ‘full service’ form.

Receipt of ESA and HB means that disabled students can top-up their student finance with ESA to pay for their extra disability related costs and attend colleges and universities away from their home.

However, this ability is denied to them under Universal Credit as it does not automatically treat them as having a “limited capability for work”.

The current situation creates a post code lottery where some disabled students can still claim ESA and HB but others can only claim and be refused Universal Credit.

The letter from members of the APPG says:

“Only 16% of disabled people have a degree level qualification compared to 30% of non-disabled people.

Universal Credit will inevitably make this situation worse as it:

adds to the financial barrier to disabled people accessing higher education; and
bars disabled people from accessing residential college or other rented accommodation.
We would urge the Government to make the following simple addition to Schedule 8 (Circumstances in which a claimant is to be treated as having limited capability for work) of the Universal Credit Regulations 2013 so that this applies where:

“The claimant is undertaking a course of education and is entitled to a disability living allowance, armed forces independence payment or personal independence payment.”

Stop press
The DWP has confirmed to DR UK that only disabled students who receive DLA or PIP and have had their limited capability for work agreed by a work capability assessment are eligible for Universal Credit.

However, it has not been uncommon for ESA claimants to wait up to a year for a work capability assessment appointment.

If a disabled student is still being only ‘treated as having a limited capability for work’ as they have not yet attended a work capability assessment the DWP says that they cannot be awarded Universal Credit.

In addition, Article 4 of Universal Credit Commencement Orders mean, if such a disabled student does claim Universal Credit, not only will it be refused but their claim will also lead to ending of their ESA.

You can view a list of areas where full service Universal Credit has already been rolled out and a timetable for the future roll out of full UC

Ken Butler DR UK’s Welfare Rights Adviser said:

“The DWP’s belated confirmation that many existing disabled students being legitimately being paid ESA are barred from Universal Credit makes an unfair situation even worse.

Disabled students may have made their decisions on undertaking courses away from home partly on their ability claim housing benefit.

If their college or university is then included in a ‘full service’ Universal Credit area this may mean them abandoning a course before they even start it.”

Re: Wednesday 2nd August 2017

Posted: Wed 02 Aug, 2017 8:56 pm
by citizenJA
Tories accuse Labour of trying to kick Brexit into the 'long grass'

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... gle-market" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
You what

Re: Wednesday 2nd August 2017

Posted: Wed 02 Aug, 2017 9:09 pm
by PorFavor
Brexit: Job advert reveals UK trade dispute plans

The government has revealed through a job advert how it plans to tackle unfair trade after Brexit.

A new body called the UK Trade Remedies Organisation will be set up to tackle allegations of unfair competition and investigate complaints.

The online advert for a digital design lead said the organisation needs to be up and running by October 2018 - ahead of the UK's exit in March 2019.

The UK can then enforce its own trade rules - a job currently done by the EU.

"This is a challenging deadline and the Trade Remedies Implementation Team is being formed to ensure this is effectively delivered on time," read the advert.

However, prospective candidates have been warned they will be working in a "changing and uncertain environment", with changes to policy possible as "thinking develops", as legislation moves through parliament, and because of the on-going negotiation with the EU. (BBC News website)
Good luck with that.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-40803267

Re: Wednesday 2nd August 2017

Posted: Wed 02 Aug, 2017 9:12 pm
by HindleA
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/te ... r-10918900" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;



Terminally ill dad and family fear they'll end up homeless as they face eviction from flat

Re: Wednesday 2nd August 2017

Posted: Wed 02 Aug, 2017 9:12 pm
by citizenJA
citizenJA wrote:
Tories accuse Labour of trying to kick Brexit into the 'long grass'

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... gle-market" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
You what
Charlie Elphicke, MP for Dover.... “It would be wrong for the Labour party to seek to undermine the referendum decision or seek to kick it into the long grass,” said Elphicke.

A senior Tory source...claiming everyone knew the “four pillars” of the single market, including free movement were indivisible.
“Labour don’t know what they are doing. They’ve got a GCSE-level understanding of Brexit and that is totally inconsistent and letting down Labour members and the country as a whole.”
tick-tock Tory losers

Re: Wednesday 2nd August 2017

Posted: Wed 02 Aug, 2017 9:12 pm
by PorFavor
UKTRO? Somehow doesn't have that certain ring to it ...

Re: Wednesday 2nd August 2017

Posted: Wed 02 Aug, 2017 9:15 pm
by HindleA
Automated Alliteration Response Unit


tick-tock Tory tossers

Re: Wednesday 2nd August 2017

Posted: Wed 02 Aug, 2017 9:16 pm
by citizenJA
PorFavor wrote:
Brexit: Job advert reveals UK trade dispute plans
The government has revealed through a job advert how it plans to tackle unfair trade after Brexit.
A new body called the UK Trade Remedies Organisation will be set up to tackle allegations of unfair competition and investigate complaints.
The online advert for a digital design lead said the organisation needs to be up and running by October 2018 - ahead of the UK's exit in March 2019.
The UK can then enforce its own trade rules - a job currently done by the EU.

"This is a challenging deadline and the Trade Remedies Implementation Team is being formed to ensure this is effectively delivered on time," read the advert.

However, prospective candidates have been warned they will be working in a "changing and uncertain environment", with changes to policy possible as "thinking develops", as legislation moves through parliament, and because of the on-going negotiation with the EU. (BBC News website)
Good luck with that.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-40803267
(cJA emphasis & edit)
TRIT

Re: Wednesday 2nd August 2017

Posted: Wed 02 Aug, 2017 9:18 pm
by citizenJA
Good rhyming potential

Re: Wednesday 2nd August 2017

Posted: Wed 02 Aug, 2017 10:09 pm
by PorFavor
Night night.

Re: Wednesday 2nd August 2017

Posted: Wed 02 Aug, 2017 10:12 pm
by citizenJA
A local authority has admitted its air pollution data was deliberately manipulated for three years to make it look cleaner. Cheshire East council apologised after serious errors were made in air quality readings from 2012 to 2014. It is reviewing planning applications amid fears falsified data may have affected decisions in at least five towns. It said it would reveal the full list of sites affected this week.

- Cheshire East council admits air pollution data was falsified

https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... ution-data" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I'm angry

Re: Wednesday 2nd August 2017

Posted: Wed 02 Aug, 2017 10:12 pm
by citizenJA
PorFavor wrote:Night night.
Goodnight, PorFavor

Re: Wednesday 2nd August 2017

Posted: Wed 02 Aug, 2017 10:15 pm
by citizenJA
Cheshire East Council has 82 councillors in 52 wards

51 Tory councillors
16 Labour councillors
2 Liberal Democrat councillors
1 Non-grouped independent councillor

http://www.cheshireeast.gov.uk/council_ ... uncil.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Wednesday 2nd August 2017

Posted: Wed 02 Aug, 2017 10:17 pm
by citizenJA
Cheshire police said officers would review the case to establish if any criminal offences occurred.

Re: Wednesday 2nd August 2017

Posted: Wed 02 Aug, 2017 10:17 pm
by citizenJA
Goodnight, everyone
love,
cJA

Re: Wednesday 2nd August 2017

Posted: Wed 02 Aug, 2017 11:10 pm
by HindleA
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-news-fr ... e-40801328" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


An increase in divorce petitions in one part of Indonesia is being blamed on the love of pigeon racing, it's been reported.

Re: Wednesday 2nd August 2017

Posted: Wed 02 Aug, 2017 11:13 pm
by HindleA
https://www.gov.uk/government/statistic ... 17#history" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Schools, pupils and their characteristics: January 2017

Updated)

https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... 18#history" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Guidance
Dedicated schools grant (DSG): 2017 to 2018

Re: Wednesday 2nd August 2017

Posted: Wed 02 Aug, 2017 11:14 pm
by HindleA
https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... ary-school" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


The schools adjudicator's variation of admission arrangements decision about Sir John Offley Church of England Primary School.

Re: Wednesday 2nd August 2017

Posted: Wed 02 Aug, 2017 11:16 pm
by HindleA
https://www.gov.uk/government/statistic ... 17#history" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Number of deaths, self-harm and assaults in prison custody in England and Wales.

Re: Wednesday 2nd August 2017

Posted: Wed 02 Aug, 2017 11:20 pm
by HindleA
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-40803107" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


Game of Thrones's Harington backs disability campaign

Re: Wednesday 2nd August 2017

Posted: Wed 02 Aug, 2017 11:22 pm
by HindleA
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


Tesla revenues double but losses also grow


Electric car-maker Tesla quarterly revenues have more than doubled helped by higher deliveries of its upmarket vehicles but its losses also grew.
The company reported revenue of almost $2.8bn (£2.1) in the three months to 30 June, up from $1.3bn during the same period last year.

Re: Wednesday 2nd August 2017

Posted: Wed 02 Aug, 2017 11:25 pm
by HindleA
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... chael-gove" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


Why are prisoners rioting? Serial ministerial incompetence
Tom Gash

Re: Wednesday 2nd August 2017

Posted: Wed 02 Aug, 2017 11:27 pm
by HindleA
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... it-cartoon" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


Kate Evans on Theresa May and the pressures of Brexit – cartoon

Re: Wednesday 2nd August 2017

Posted: Wed 02 Aug, 2017 11:47 pm
by tinybgoat
citizenJA wrote:
citizenJA wrote:
Tories accuse Labour of trying to kick Brexit into the 'long grass'

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... gle-market" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
You what
Charlie Elphicke, MP for Dover.... “It would be wrong for the Labour party to seek to undermine the referendum decision or seek to kick it into the long grass,” said Elphicke.

A senior Tory source...claiming everyone knew the “four pillars” of the single market, including free movement were indivisible.
“Labour don’t know what they are doing. They’ve got a GCSE-level understanding of Brexit and that is totally inconsistent and letting down Labour members and the country as a whole.”
tick-tock Tory losers
Labour has been accused of attempting to kick Brexit into the “long grass” after Keir Starmer revealed that he planned to pile pressure on the government to keep Britain inside the single market during a transitional period.....
...The Conservatives are hoping to hit back at Labour by exploiting potential differences at the top of the party after the shadow trade secretary, Barry Gardiner, wrote in the Guardian that Brexit meant leaving the single market and customs union.
But Gardiner was talking about the final brexit agreement, not a transitional stage, so his position & Starmer's aren't incompatible:
As a transitional phase, a customs union agreement might be thought to have some merit. However, as an end point it is deeply unattractive.

Re: Wednesday 2nd August 2017

Posted: Thu 03 Aug, 2017 12:13 am
by HindleA
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/201 ... rification" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;



Labour warns of fallout from scrapping rail electrification
Cancellation and downgrading of projects will lengthen journey times and increase costs, says party