Monday 7th August 2017

Post by **refitman** » Mon 07 Aug, 2017 7:10 am

Morning all.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Mon 07 Aug, 2017 9:08 am

Morning

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/help ... quity-loan" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Government remains committed to the Help to Buy equity loan scheme to 2021

New housing
Following stories in the media on the future of Help to Buy equity loan, the Department for Communities and Local Government has made the following statement.

We remain committed to the Help to Buy equity loan scheme to 2021, ensuring it continues to support homebuyers and stimulate housing supply.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Mon 07 Aug, 2017 9:17 am

http://thehill.com/regulation/healthcar ... s-heats-up" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Fight over right to sue nursing homes heats up

Fight over right to sue nursing homes heats up

Consumer groups are making a last ditch effort to stop the Trump administration from stripping nursing home residents and their families of the right to take facilities to court over alleged abuse, neglect or sexual assault.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Mon 07 Aug, 2017 9:23 am

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/gove ... ection-law" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Press release
Government to strengthen UK data protection law

https://www.gov.uk/government/consultat ... -for-views" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Mon 07 Aug, 2017 9:38 am

https://www.theguardian.com/business/20 ... -six-years" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

UK construction industry faces weakest growth in six years

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Mon 07 Aug, 2017 9:40 am

https://www.theguardian.com/business/li ... iness-live" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

house price growth hits four-year low

Breaking! UK house prices growth has hit a four-year low.

Halifax’s monthly survey, just released, shows that prices in the three months to July were only 2.1% higher than a year ago.

That’s the weakest annual rate since April 2013, down from a blistering 10% back in March 2016.

House prices in the last three months were 0.2% lower than in the previous three months (February-April). That’s the fourth quarterly fall in a row, and another sign that the economy is slowing.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Mon 07 Aug, 2017 9:42 am

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/uk-engla ... 65a9f80487" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Thousands of athletes from around the country are on their way to Yorkshire ahead of the start of this year's Special Olympics.

The event, which is the country's largest multi-sports event for athletes with learning disabilities, takes place in Sheffield, opening today with competition beginning in earnest tomorrow.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Mon 07 Aug, 2017 9:54 am

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/ ... CMP=twt_gu" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Time is fast running out for athletics to act on the scale of problems it faces
IAAF president must be decisive after jeers for 100m winner Justin Gaitlin

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Mon 07 Aug, 2017 9:56 am

https://www.tes.com/news/school-news/br ... self-worth" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Theresa May: stop destroying teachers' sense of value and self-worth'

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Mon 07 Aug, 2017 10:25 am

Labour Press
Labour welcome that the Government have finally understood that our current data protection legislation needs updating

http://press.labour.org.uk/post/1639006 ... ve-finally" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Mon 07 Aug, 2017 10:35 am

How did the swingers party go PF?

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Mon 07 Aug, 2017 10:36 am

If you can remember.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Mon 07 Aug, 2017 10:39 am

HindleA wrote:How did the swingers party go PF?

You had to be there. As they say.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Mon 07 Aug, 2017 10:39 am

Good morfternoon.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Mon 07 Aug, 2017 10:43 am

I failed the audition.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Mon 07 Aug, 2017 10:47 am

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/le ... g-10943475" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

At least 70,000 vulnerable people living in 'inadequate' social care homes

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Mon 07 Aug, 2017 10:49 am

#DavidSchneider

Gatlin. Don't be down. The last person who got booed was caught cheating on austerity but is now editor of the Evening Standard.

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Mon 07 Aug, 2017 11:12 am

As I said the other week, that was one of this country's high points in recent years.

"Another world is possible", indeed

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Mon 07 Aug, 2017 11:36 am

https://www.gov.uk/government/consultat ... ivals-data" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Open consultation
Home Office’s immigration statistics – arrivals data

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Mon 07 Aug, 2017 11:49 am

http://urthevoice.co.uk/outrage-dwp-rev ... t-appeals/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

"It's not a target it is a performance indicator"refrain.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Mon 07 Aug, 2017 1:26 pm

Something awry with HMRC records/systems;getting (better half)employer related info/bills etc.IT stopped in April/May 2015,were told and never had this stuff before (relates to this year).

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Mon 07 Aug, 2017 1:45 pm

"Inform us if the business has ceased to trade" Well,that is one way to put it.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Mon 07 Aug, 2017 1:53 pm

Get everyone to take up a personal budget/be an employer;a million business set ups in the health/care sector~~,despite Brexit~~.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Mon 07 Aug, 2017 1:58 pm

HindleA wrote:Get everyone to take up a personal budget/be an employer;a million business set ups in the health/care sector,despite Brexit.

You're not allowed to say "despite 'Brexit'".

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Mon 07 Aug, 2017 2:11 pm

I didn't say it out loud

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Mon 07 Aug, 2017 2:37 pm

http://www.politics.co.uk/news/2017/08/ ... -documents" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

DWP fights to block publication of fit-for-work documents

tinybgoat · Post by **tinybgoat** » Mon 07 Aug, 2017 2:49 pm

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/bre ... 80741.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

"A breakthrough at long last in the Brexit negotiations."

Nobody seriously expects the UK not to settle its “divorce bill”, be it for £36bn, £60bn or whatever the European Union decides it wants, and now that Theresa May has “ruled out” paying it, there can be no more certain guarantee that it will be paid in full.

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Mon 07 Aug, 2017 2:50 pm

Afternoon all.

Whenever an org says that it is non-partisan, it almost certainly means the opposite.

Firstly a tweet about how safe American food is...

Institute4FreeTrade‏ @IFTtweets 6h6 hours ago
More
Institute4FreeTrade Retweeted The Independent
US standards not unsafe, allow US farms to be more productive, EU doesn't like it. Sound familiar? #cancermilk #hormonebeef #chlorinechicken

So, a little digging and...

http://www.ifreetrade.org/about" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

IFT makes the intellectual and moral case for free trade, and sees Britain’s withdrawal from the European Union as a unique opportunity to revitalize the world trading system.

IFT’s President is the Conservative MEP Daniel Hannan. The institute is managed by an Executive Board, and has an International Advisory Panel.

Non-partisan....right...

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Mon 07 Aug, 2017 2:54 pm

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Mon 07 Aug, 2017 2:57 pm

Was going to say as "fair and balanced " as Fox News,but they have dropped that tagline

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2017/ ... ced-slogan" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Mon 07 Aug, 2017 3:01 pm

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 81036.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Donald Trump's Bible study pastor called mothers serving in public office sinners

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Mon 07 Aug, 2017 3:18 pm

tinybgoat wrote:http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/bre ... 80741.html

"A breakthrough at long last in the Brexit negotiations."

Nobody seriously expects the UK not to settle its “divorce bill”, be it for £36bn, £60bn or whatever the European Union decides it wants, and now that Theresa May has “ruled out” paying it, there can be no more certain guarantee that it will be paid in full.

They're going to pay it whilst not paying it - Schroedinger's Brexit Bill.

tinybgoat · Post by **tinybgoat** » Mon 07 Aug, 2017 3:25 pm

HindleA wrote:http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 81036.html

Donald Trump's Bible study pastor called mothers serving in public office sinners

“It’s the best Bible study that I’ve ever taught in my life. They are so teachable; they’re so noble, they're so learned,” Mr Drollinger told CBN News.
“These are godly individuals that God has risen to a position of prominence in our culture.”

omg, he think Putin's God.
(joke courtesy of daughter)

SpinningHugo · Post by **SpinningHugo** » Mon 07 Aug, 2017 4:12 pm

I'm not all that fussed by all the Venezuela stuff. The patsies have long looked ridiculous. But Corbyn today is laughably predictable

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-4 ... ws_central" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Mon 07 Aug, 2017 4:27 pm

So you really think all the aggro there *is* just coming from the government side?

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Mon 07 Aug, 2017 4:53 pm

HindleA wrote:http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world ... 81036.html

Donald Trump's Bible study pastor called mothers serving in public office sinners

For those knowing their Sinclair Lewis, this is turning out to be a It Can't Happen Here / Elmer Gantry mashup.

By coincidence these are next to each other on my bookshelf...

howsillyofme1 · Post by **howsillyofme1** » Mon 07 Aug, 2017 5:47 pm

Afternoon all

Ah, the Venezuela situation arises

Well, my view on this is I don't think anyone here can be really sure what is going on there. What we do know is the US (as all the 'Great Powers' do) still interferes in the goings on in its immediate neighbours and has tried for years to undermine the current regime in Venezuela, including backing of coups and supporting the opposition with money and probably weapons. To think there is not a significant amount of that going on now would be naïve.

That is not to say that Maduro is actually a good leader and has not made a mess of the economy to a large extent and has reacted badly - which has given an opportunity for the propaganda to be turned against him

Personally, I think Corbyn is just doing what we would expect - he has an affiliation to the Venezuelans based on their attempts to reduce the inequality there - no mattered how flawed some of the methods had been - and I imagine there is contradictory evidence over who is behind all the violence. The people who have been calling for him to condemn the Venezuelans are only doing it to try and put him in a spot but if the Ireland stuff hasn't hurt him as much as we thought then this won't either. In reality his words will make no difference to the situation so it is all a bit of a storm in a teacup

I think it would be difficult to find any politician who does not make their statements and condemnations in an entirely consistent and usually demands from opponents for condemnations are to put people in a spot. Their are plenty of Governments around the world who behave in a similar manner but they are not so interesting politically

There are some cases that are more serious, however, where the UK supports regimes with arms sales - the noxious Government in Bahrain for example, or our great friends the Saudis among others. In this case the fact we sell arms and support the regime materially is far more important and in those cases a difference can be made by strong condemnation and withholding of weapons from them

Perhaps the press could concentrate on these types of countries rather than ones which our politicians have no influence over

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Mon 07 Aug, 2017 5:56 pm

https://www.theguardian.com/money/2017/ ... -freeholds" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Breakthrough in leasehold scandal as Countryside buys back freeholds

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Mon 07 Aug, 2017 6:53 pm

https://www.amnesty.org/en/countries/am ... venezuela/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Willow904 · Post by **Willow904** » Mon 07 Aug, 2017 7:08 pm

https://www.civilrightsdefenders.org/co ... venezuela/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

howsillyofme1 · Post by **howsillyofme1** » Mon 07 Aug, 2017 7:08 pm

Indeed

https://www.amnesty.org/en/countries/mi ... t-bahrain/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

But we don't send the SAS to help train the troops and fund the Venezuelan Government.......

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Mon 07 Aug, 2017 7:12 pm

Which is why bringing up the likes of Saudi Arabia is the very opposite of "whataboutery". Either basic human rights should be available to all, or they should not.

howsillyofme1 · Post by **howsillyofme1** » Mon 07 Aug, 2017 7:21 pm

So Venezuela is a bloody basket case now - poor economic conditions has led to the Government becoming repressive and very unpleasant - the issue though is that the opposition here are not the angelic protestors that we would sometimes be led to believe - they have been in the past probably are now being supported by the US......there is a lot of black propaganda going on here as well

It does not excuse the actions of the Venezuelan Government at all but why the focus on this one regime when we have seen oppression and violence by Governments all over the world

Why are we not supporting protestors in Saudi or Bahrain by not supplying their oppressors with weapons and training - that is a more relevant question that what Corbyn says about Venezuela.

Labour have a leader who talk us into a probably unjustifiable war whilst probably lying - we have tolerated the torture of people and abetted the secret rendition of prisoners

How much have British Governments known about US interference and support in the actions of right-wing Governments in the Central American region

These are things that are far more important than the fuss made about Corbyn - as I say above the calls are made to put him on the spot when politicians in the UK have, at best, tolerated much worse

These continual jibes are getting a bit tiring and, if the election is anything to go by, have no effect

Willow904 · Post by **Willow904** » Mon 07 Aug, 2017 7:23 pm

There is no Shangri-la.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Mon 07 Aug, 2017 7:33 pm

https://take-a-way.co.uk/menu/4708/shan ... woodhouse/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Willow904 · Post by **Willow904** » Mon 07 Aug, 2017 7:50 pm

HindleA wrote:https://take-a-way.co.uk/menu/4708/shan ... woodhouse/

Balls.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Mon 07 Aug, 2017 8:26 pm

https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... CMP=twt_gu" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

New species of grass snake discovered in England

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Mon 07 Aug, 2017 8:30 pm

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... CMP=twt_gu" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Martin Rowson on Jeremy Corbyn and violence in Venezuela

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Mon 07 Aug, 2017 9:12 pm

https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 ... d-by-judge" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-40855771" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Mon 07 Aug, 2017 9:39 pm

http://www.lbc.co.uk/news/london/west/k ... ing-empty/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Enough Empty Council Flats In One Chelsea Block To House All Grenfell Families

PTO