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Carrots and communism: the allotments plotting a food revolution

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Ukip politicians condemn leadership candidate's '£9,000 to leave UK' idea (Guardian)


I saw the headline and, until I got round to reading the article, thought that it was a money-spinner to charge people, who wanted to leave, £9,000. A sort of ransom\hostage scenario. Which would, the way things are going, make a bit more sense . . .

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/aug/18/ukip-peter-whittle-john-rees-evans-9000-to-leave-uk


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"I know more than a scientist and a life time high end user of the NHS,I couldn't ignore my own compulsion to lie,misuse statistics and misrepresent evidence"
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https://www.theguardian.com/voluntary-sector-network/2017/aug/17/carrots-communism-allotments-sustainable-food-revolution-organic


Carrots and communism: the allotments plotting a food revolution



I wondered where you were! I'm afraid I didn't realise that you'd started this thread, so I inadvertently set up a rival one. Which everyone is studiously ignoring . . .


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Actually, I now notice that I got in first. So you're the pretender. I'm not hurt at all . . .


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I humbly apologise.We were opening up at the same time,the weekend rota system needs clarifying.

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Here's my effort. I transplanted it (perhaps someone (refitman?) would be kind enough to delete the other thread)? Thanks, in advance.

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Ukip politicians condemn leadership candidate's '£9,000 to leave UK' idea (Guardian)


I saw the headline and, until I got round to reading the article, thought that it was a money-spinner to charge people, who wanted to leave, £9,000. A sort of ransom\hostage scenario. Which would, the way things are going, make a bit more sense . . .

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/aug/18/ukip-peter-whittle-john-rees-evans-9000-to-leave-uk


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HindleA wrote:
"I know more than a scientist and a life time high end user of the NHS,I couldn't ignore my own compulsion to lie,misuse statistics and misrepresent evidence"
#patronisingprat

Marvellous replies from lots of people who know more than he does.
https://twitter.com/Jeremy_Hunt/status/ ... 9456566274

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PostPosted: Sat 19 Aug, 2017 9:56 am 
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30th anniversary of the Hungerford massacre today. Thoughtful "long read" about it on the BBC website.


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Rare butterfly spotted in Scotland for the first time since 1884

Elusive and endangered white-letter hairstreak discovered in a field in the Scottish borders could become the 34th species to live and breed in the country (Guardian)


The above is a few days old now, but seeing it again reminds me that I've been meaning to say that I've only seen one butterfly so far this year.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/aug/17/rare-butterfly-white-letter-hairstreak-spotted-in-scotland-for-the-first-time-since-1884

Edited to add - and no swifts


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After he tweeted this only last week.

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we have this


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For benefit and convenience of Sunday press.


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Don't always like her stuff, but Marina Hyde is on good form today re the Big Ben nonsense.


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AnatolyKasparov wrote:
Don't always like her stuff, but Marina Hyde is on good form today re the Big Ben nonsense.


She is uniformly good.


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Lloyds and Halifax customers face up to 52% APR overdraft fee

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SpinningHugo wrote:
AnatolyKasparov wrote:
Don't always like her stuff, but Marina Hyde is on good form today re the Big Ben nonsense.


She is uniformly good.


Unsurprisingly, I disagree - much of her pre-election stuff about Corbyn/Labour was lazy bubblethink.

She is a decent *writer* though (stylistically I mean) which alone makes her less bad than some.


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A new exhibition celebrates Berger’s vision through the drawings that were given to him. The room is filled with affection, writes photographer Eamonn McCabe

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Guidance on whether an individual has an automatic claim to British citizenship.(updated)

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HindleA wrote:
"I know more than a scientist and a life time high end user of the NHS,I couldn't ignore my own compulsion to lie,misuse statistics and misrepresent evidence"
#patronisingprat

Marvellous replies from lots of people who know more than he does.
https://twitter.com/Jeremy_Hunt/status/ ... 9456566274


this one was good:

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Don't always like her stuff, but Marina Hyde is on good form today re the Big Ben nonsense.


She is uniformly good.


:lol:

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AnatolyKasparov wrote:
Don't always like her stuff, but Marina Hyde is on good form today re the Big Ben nonsense.


And this is spot on...

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See also anything to do with railways, where everybody is an expert because they've been on a train. Just have double decker trains etc.

Talking of which, Network Rail seem to be doing well with the Waterloo works. Half of platforms have had to be taken out of use for them, so very little margin for error.


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AnatolyKasparov wrote:
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Don't always like her stuff, but Marina Hyde is on good form today re the Big Ben nonsense.

She is uniformly good.

Unsurprisingly, I disagree - much of her pre-election stuff about Corbyn/Labour was lazy bubblethink.

She is a decent *writer* though (stylistically I mean) which alone makes her less bad than some.

I'm glad you like her writing style, I do too


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Good-afternoon, everyone


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HindleA wrote:
https://www.theguardian.com/books/booksblog/2017/aug/18/ways-of-seeing-john-berger


Ways of seeing John Berger
A new exhibition celebrates Berger’s vision through the drawings that were given to him. The room is filled with affection, writes photographer Eamonn McCabe

I need to re-read that, Ways of Seeing. It was assigned reading for a class taken in my teens. I don't think I appreciated the work at the time.


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Ha ha.

I just wondered what Emma Boon is doing these days. She's at the DfT as a special advisor. Her linkedin page says she worked at a "high profile think tank". Too ashamed to say which one.


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I advise everyone take a look at this government's citizenship and immigration changes regularly. I mean it. I'm not being flippant.


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AnatolyKasparov wrote:
SpinningHugo wrote:
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Don't always like her stuff, but Marina Hyde is on good form today re the Big Ben nonsense.


She is uniformly good.


Unsurprisingly, I disagree - much of her pre-election stuff about Corbyn/Labour was lazy bubblethink.

She is a decent *writer* though (stylistically I mean) which alone makes her less bad than some.


Len McCluskey didn't sound very confident with his predictions, and presumably he had access to information on the ground.

I think you have to allow that low expectations was a rational position, at least until May was exposed properly. (I'm not belittling Corbyn there, he did a good job exposing May).


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I'm not just referring there to the fact she expected Labour to be well beaten (so did I until a few weeks before the election, after all)


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I'm not just referring there to the fact she expected Labour to be well beaten (so did I until a few weeks before the election, after all)

I still can't over that, it was wonderful
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No it bloody wasn't and still no sign of reinforcements. ;)

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No it bloody wasn't and still no sign of reinforcements. ;)



In the post.


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That? Recordings of hysterical laughter at my predicament reinforcing my feelings of woe?

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A call to my brother-in -law (Sunderland supporter) is well overdue.

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My sister supports Leeds, she will also be pleased.


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No it bloody wasn't and still no sign of reinforcements. ;)

Oh, gracious, forgive my insensitivity! I went away from the computer a bit. I'm mustering relief for your plight. You're not forgotten.


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No it bloody wasn't and still no sign of reinforcements. ;)



In the post.

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I'm counting down the hours and minutes until the "Brexit" masterplan is revealed.



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