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https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... ble-people" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Benefit cap blamed for 85% cut in new homes for vulnerable people
(LHA maxima cap)
Housing schemes facing closure or postponement include homes for war veterans adjusting back to civilian life and supported living for people with learning disabilities to help them live independently. The changes could also apply to secure housing for domestic violence victims.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... ble-people" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Benefit cap blamed for 85% cut in new homes for vulnerable people
(LHA maxima cap)
Housing schemes facing closure or postponement include homes for war veterans adjusting back to civilian life and supported living for people with learning disabilities to help them live independently. The changes could also apply to secure housing for domestic violence victims.
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School nurse shortage 'putting children's lives at risk'
School nurse shortage 'putting children's lives at risk'
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Hawking's riposte to Hunt's rather scandalous lies about what he said at the RSM.
Hawking's riposte to Hunt's rather scandalous lies about what he said at the RSM.
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https://amp.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/ ... will-work/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Needless to say this perfectly sensible question isn't answered. If someone has to be ready to take over at any time, they have to pay as much attention as if they were driving. So they might as well be driving. What is the point?Self-driving lorries are to appear on motorways in England next year after the government announced £8million of funding for trials.
Up to three HGVs will travel in convoy using wireless technology.
That led Nick Ferrari to ask the simple question: "If you've got a bloke or woman in the cab, why are we doing this?"
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Good morfternoon.
Levity aside, I hope things don't turn out anywhere near as bad as is predicted.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/ ... -for-texas
The miraculous properties of American ice . . .Hurricane Harvey: evacuations under way as storm heads for Texas
Weather system due to make landfall on Friday evening is most powerful to hit the US in 11 years
Kim Fraleigh, of Sugar Land, stocked up with five cases of water, three bags of ice and other supplies at a supermarket. “We’ve got chips, tuna, dry salami, anything that does not require refrigeration,” she said. (Guardian - my emphasis)
Levity aside, I hope things don't turn out anywhere near as bad as is predicted.
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Nick Ferrari asking a sensible question? Makes a change.Willow904 wrote:https://amp.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/ ... will-work/
Needless to say this perfectly sensible question isn't answered. If someone has to be ready to take over at any time, they have to pay as much attention as if they were driving. So they might as well be driving. What is the point?Self-driving lorries are to appear on motorways in England next year after the government announced £8million of funding for trials.
Up to three HGVs will travel in convoy using wireless technology.
That led Nick Ferrari to ask the simple question: "If you've got a bloke or woman in the cab, why are we doing this?"
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Good comments btl too.HindleA wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... CMP=twt_gu
Hawking's riposte to Hunt's rather scandalous lies about what he said at the RSM.
Why are we governed by such venal idiots?Light over darkness. Tested rationality over ideologue. Conscience over dogma. Good over evil.
Professor Stephen Hawking can see light years away further than the nobody, blind Jeremy Hunt.
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Why, indeed. Even the very worst Tories feel the need to at least appear to be doing the job when made a minister, even the supposedly lazy David Davis says stuff from time to time that gives the appearance of being in charge. All we've had from Hunt in the last year was a "gosh, why is this happening" about the NHS as if it's absolutely nothing to do with him. Since IDS' departure he's easily the very worst minister, sadly in one of the most crucial and demanding roles. The NHS won't last to 2022 without a major acute crisis (as opposed to the ongoing chronic one we're already in). Presumably Hunt's job is to studiously ignore what's going on and hide behind a tree when the media finally wakes up to what's been going on (if they ever do).gilsey wrote:Good comments btl too.HindleA wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... CMP=twt_gu
Hawking's riposte to Hunt's rather scandalous lies about what he said at the RSM.Why are we governed by such venal idiots?Light over darkness. Tested rationality over ideologue. Conscience over dogma. Good over evil.
Professor Stephen Hawking can see light years away further than the nobody, blind Jeremy Hunt.
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He's the worst minister from our point of view, but his continuance in that job is clear evidence of the govt's intentions towards the NHS. They can spout fine words, and in response we can point to *unt.
He's not incompetent, he's delivering exactly what's wanted.
He's not incompetent, he's delivering exactly what's wanted.
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I think he is incompetent - but you're right in saying that he's delivering exactly what's wanted.gilsey wrote:He's the worst minister from our point of view, but his continuance in that job is clear evidence of the govt's intentions towards the NHS. They can spout fine words, and in response we can point to *unt.
He's not incompetent, he's delivering exactly what's wanted.
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Some tube lines work like that. I assume the remote driving helps to space the trains out efficiently. But agree, can't see why that's relevant to a standalone lorry, or how you'll ever get to a situation where it is.Willow904 wrote:https://amp.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/ ... will-work/
Needless to say this perfectly sensible question isn't answered. If someone has to be ready to take over at any time, they have to pay as much attention as if they were driving. So they might as well be driving. What is the point?Self-driving lorries are to appear on motorways in England next year after the government announced £8million of funding for trials.
Up to three HGVs will travel in convoy using wireless technology.
That led Nick Ferrari to ask the simple question: "If you've got a bloke or woman in the cab, why are we doing this?"
I'm quite surprised they can do this at all. I think with tube trains, it's much harder if the line goes above ground.
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There is also an element of nobody else wanting to pick up the poisoned chalice from him, I suspect.
Seriously, what are Hunt's approval ratings? They must be subterranean even by present Tory standards..........
Seriously, what are Hunt's approval ratings? They must be subterranean even by present Tory standards..........
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The third way after Corbynism
https://averypublicsociologist.blogspot ... ynism.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I'd quote the conclusion but it would be a shame for you not to read the whole thing.
It's a response to this http://www.progressonline.org.uk/2017/0 ... -of-ideas/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;, which I haven't read.
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I'd quote the conclusion but it would be a shame for you not to read the whole thing.
It's a response to this http://www.progressonline.org.uk/2017/0 ... -of-ideas/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;, which I haven't read.
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I was amazed May kept Hunt on. Though maybe nobody else wanted the job. Greg Clark would be my choice.AnatolyKasparov wrote:There is also an element of nobody else wanting to pick up the poisoned chalice from him, I suspect.
Seriously, what are Hunt's approval ratings? They must be subterranean even by present Tory standards..........
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Phil BC is very good, you don't have to share all his analysis or conclusions to think that.gilsey wrote:The third way after Corbynism
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I'd quote the conclusion but it would be a shame for you not to read the whole thing.
It's a response to this http://www.progressonline.org.uk/2017/0 ... -of-ideas/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;, which I haven't read.
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AnatolyKasparov wrote:Phil BC is very good, you don't have to share all his analysis or conclusions to think that.gilsey wrote:The third way after Corbynism
https://averypublicsociologist.blogspot ... ynism.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I'd quote the conclusion but it would be a shame for you not to read the whole thing.
It's a response to this http://www.progressonline.org.uk/2017/0 ... -of-ideas/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;, which I haven't read.
I think both the Progress piece and that reply are completely vacuous. Both are badly written.
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Then again, your idea of "good writing" is not everybody's - Phil BC makes often obscure seeming sociological concepts accessible.
Just yesterday, someone mentioned David Runciman's cautiously admiring profile of Theresa May (in the LRB?) pre-election.
It may have been "well written", as much of his stuff is. But how well does the actual substance stand up in hindsight?
Just yesterday, someone mentioned David Runciman's cautiously admiring profile of Theresa May (in the LRB?) pre-election.
It may have been "well written", as much of his stuff is. But how well does the actual substance stand up in hindsight?
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AnatolyKasparov wrote:Then again, your idea of "good writing" is not everybody's - Phil BC makes often obscure seeming sociological concepts accessible.
Just yesterday, someone mentioned David Runciman's cautiously admiring profile of Theresa May (in the LRB?) pre-election.
It may have been "well written", as much of his stuff is. But how well does the actual substance stand up in hindsight?
You mean this one,
https://www.lrb.co.uk/v39/n06/david-run ... r-homework" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
with the penultimate line
"Europe may yet destroy May as prime minister, as it destroyed her three Conservative predecessors."
Seems pretty accurate to me on that point.
Phil BC never, ever, mentions the EU. It is all vacuous pseudo-babble.
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Phil BC writes about Brexit and the EU quite often, he just doesn't share your conclusions.
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Bonkers game playing stuff like thisAnatolyKasparov wrote:Phil BC writes about Brexit and the EU quite often, he just doesn't share your conclusions.
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Really bad, Blairites under the bed stuff.
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I looked at the Progress thing because I'm probably supposed to like it. It's not very good.
Jeremy Cliffe of The Economist is probably too much to the right to be in Labour, but he's managed to knock up a list of policies you could call "radical centre". Progress could do worse than take up some of that.
Jeremy Cliffe of The Economist is probably too much to the right to be in Labour, but he's managed to knock up a list of policies you could call "radical centre". Progress could do worse than take up some of that.
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Tubby Isaacs wrote:I looked at the Progress thing because I'm probably supposed to like it. It's not very good.
Jeremy Cliffe of The Economist is probably too much to the right to be in Labour, but he's managed to knock up a list of policies you could call "radical centre". Progress could do worse than take up some of that.
There are lots of areas where a centrist third way solution is the best way forward.
The most obvious is housing. The Tory option is leave it to the market. The Labour option build more council housing (which is distributively badly unfair).
The sensible option is to combine (1) huge infrastructure spending to create the structure for housing (transport, water etc) with (2) deregulation on where and how tall you can build.
The 'left' solution is to try and fix the market in one way or another, all of which are basically rent/price controls in watered down form which we know don't actually work. The centrist position is not to try to buck the market, but to use state spending to increase the supply, and bring down the price.
Other areas are transport. Labour, as it is now led, doesn't often see a problem where the answer isn't re-nationalisation based on the spurious reasoning that the private companies (or *shock* foreign governments) that own X are taking money out of the system which should be re-invested. If you look at, say, rail or anything else, this is just silliness. The third way solution, essentially what Prescott did with rail, is probably the best solution available.
In some areas the "left" solution is actually regressive. The most obvious is University fees (which we've discussed at length).
On the economy, the centrist position is essentially that of Ed Balls: you have to use fiscal levers to get the economy off the zero level bound, but that can't alone justify permanently higher levels of spending. The UK has only ever taxed around 40% of GDP and banking on our ever being able to tax much more than that is over optimistic (though we can try). The Evil Blair years were years of growth, with that growth spread using the tax and benefit system, preventing the increase in inequality (which has hardly moved since 1990). Helping the poorest is still best done using the tax and benefit system.
Lots of other sensible centrist policies, like an LVT. Phase it in, and stamp duty out.
The biggest example of a centrist policy is, of course, being pro-EU. As I explained here
https://spinninghugo.wordpress.com/2016 ... ean-union/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Corbyn, Milne, McDonnell and the rest of the Campaign Group are anti-EU, and always will be.
So, if centrism really is dead, as seems likely, that is bad news for the UK. Third way centrism, as I see it, is trying to do what works. It is evidence based, technocratic, and a bit boring.
It was probably killed by Iraq (which I marched against). But in foreign policy Labour's current leader is not only anti-NATO, but against any action anywhere ever, especially if in co-operation with the US. A terrible position.
The Tories and Labour are now controlled by people who oppose dull technocratic centrism. Grim days.
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I am beginning to think that what may be required is a move to PR.
The advantage of the current system is that the alliances within parties have to be formed in advance, so you end up voting for one block of alliances or another, knowing what you're getting in advance.
The disadvantage is that Labour and Tory are now captured by their respective "cores", which paradoxically has meant that on the most important issue of the day, Brexit, they both take the identical position (or more accurately, Labour adopts the most Brexit-y position it can whilst still being fractionally more Remain-y than the Tories.)
When I was younger I thought the current system better as it enabled changed. I now think that a system that essentially emasculates the populists of both sides, and gives the power to the centre, may be better.
The advantage of the current system is that the alliances within parties have to be formed in advance, so you end up voting for one block of alliances or another, knowing what you're getting in advance.
The disadvantage is that Labour and Tory are now captured by their respective "cores", which paradoxically has meant that on the most important issue of the day, Brexit, they both take the identical position (or more accurately, Labour adopts the most Brexit-y position it can whilst still being fractionally more Remain-y than the Tories.)
When I was younger I thought the current system better as it enabled changed. I now think that a system that essentially emasculates the populists of both sides, and gives the power to the centre, may be better.
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The ability to be closed minded,misrepresent,dismiss as irrelevant/non engage,ignore contra evidence doesn't care about labels or even non.We are all quite capable of it,to be fair.
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I am philosophically in favour of PR but there are a number of variations and I am not sure the UK electorate is prepared to accept the consequences of what a Government elected under PR will look and behave like
I am personally horrified by the prospects of a Government made up of the remnants of the Blairites and Cameroons supported by the orange bookers
And what is this 'being pro-EU is centrist' shit
I am not a centrist but I support the idea of the EU and membership of it but I have severe reservations about the EU as it exists now
I know Varoufakis is not to everyones liking but I suggest reading 'Adults in the Room' to see some of the problems -especially in the Eurozone....look beyong the rights and wrongs of the Greek debt crisis and look how power is exercised and by whom at these meetings
I am personally horrified by the prospects of a Government made up of the remnants of the Blairites and Cameroons supported by the orange bookers
And what is this 'being pro-EU is centrist' shit
I am not a centrist but I support the idea of the EU and membership of it but I have severe reservations about the EU as it exists now
I know Varoufakis is not to everyones liking but I suggest reading 'Adults in the Room' to see some of the problems -especially in the Eurozone....look beyong the rights and wrongs of the Greek debt crisis and look how power is exercised and by whom at these meetings
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HindleA wrote:The ability to be closed minded,misrepresent,dismiss as irrelevant/non engage,ignore contra evidence doesn't care about labels or even non.We are quite capable of it,to be fair.
Is this a google translation?
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No more so than many of AH's posts ![Wink ;)](./images/smilies/icon_e_wink.gif)
As with a once prominent (and still active) Labour politician, it doesn't really matter what he says - you usually know what he means.
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Thanks for confirming,Your obvious efforts are of no use.You are,unfortunately. not my type.
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I inserted the old babel fish and understood completely.....
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Hindlespeak-lessons are available on request.
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Once I work it out myself
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Yeah, the "taking this money out" argument assumes that revenues would be as high under the government. It's unlikely the government would have had the relatively free hand the train companies do to increase "business" fares. I'm not ruling nationalization out, and a case can be made to reduce the number of "interfaces", for sure. Rolling stock could reasonably be brought in house, though there's a cost in buying out the Roscos. I'm just worried about the expectations of nationalization, and that it would just lead to less investment.Other areas are transport. Labour, as it is now led, doesn't often see a problem where the answer isn't re-nationalisation based on the spurious reasoning that the private companies (or *shock* foreign governments) that own X are taking money out of the system which should be re-invested. If you look at, say, rail or anything else, this is just silliness. The third way solution, essentially what Prescott did with rail, is probably the best solution available.
Independently of nationalization or not, I'd like to see Labour being much more specific about what projects it would do.
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On rail the figures I posted yesterday showed the absolutely pathetic amount of investment in rail by the Government (1/3 of the average of the figures available and it is possible even this is over-estimated) and if the high fares (not just 'business' fares, any non-advance fares are a sign of success of the the current situation)
I don't mind companies making a profit if they deliver a good service at a reasonable price - neither is the case from my experience and a number of franchises are monopolies on their routes
If you live in the North of England, or travel their frequently, then the rail service is generally bad - with even lower levels investment than the UK figures would suggest due to the bias to the south
I don't mind companies making a profit if they deliver a good service at a reasonable price - neither is the case from my experience and a number of franchises are monopolies on their routes
If you live in the North of England, or travel their frequently, then the rail service is generally bad - with even lower levels investment than the UK figures would suggest due to the bias to the south
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John Prescott seeking legal advice.
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Decision
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No argument at all on the investment point. Just not enough.
The investment bias to the South happens for, at one level, sensible reasons. There are so many regular rail users there, if you do something like make a line speed much quicker, then it'll be quicker for lots of people. If you look at improving line speed on quieter lines (as many of them in the North are) you'll be benefiting a smaller number of people. So there's a cost-benefit logic there.
But the calculations need to be more flexible, otherwise it's a vicious circle of decline.
The investment bias to the South happens for, at one level, sensible reasons. There are so many regular rail users there, if you do something like make a line speed much quicker, then it'll be quicker for lots of people. If you look at improving line speed on quieter lines (as many of them in the North are) you'll be benefiting a smaller number of people. So there's a cost-benefit logic there.
But the calculations need to be more flexible, otherwise it's a vicious circle of decline.
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One thing positive for the North is that lots of people these days want to live in what used to be called "inner cities", and like the idea of zipping around on public transport. With the Metro Mayors, I'm reasonably hopeful for transport in cities, and into cities.
It's harder to be optimistic about travel between small towns though.
It's harder to be optimistic about travel between small towns though.
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Merseyrail is fairly well regarded, I think, and London Overground certainly is. Both are privately run, but the local transport authorities set the terms. I think this is better than having the terms set nationally. That's a way forward. Labour pioneered it in London, but were too slow to do it in other cities.
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Yeah, I think that's very important. If Progress don't have any ideas, they need to be taking this up very, very strongly.I am beginning to think that what may be required is a move to PR.
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This is my thinking too. I ask, does it work? Is the service provision effective, giving those served and those providing the service what they need/want? Is the system functioning well and needs/wants getting met sustainably?howsillyofme1 wrote:On rail the figures I posted yesterday showed the absolutely pathetic amount of investment in rail by the Government (1/3 of the average of the figures available and it is possible even this is over-estimated) and if the high fares (not just 'business' fares, any non-advance fares are a sign of success of the the current situation)
I don't mind companies making a profit if they deliver a good service at a reasonable price - neither is the case from my experience and a number of franchises are monopolies on their routes
If you live in the North of England, or travel their frequently, then the rail service is generally bad - with even lower levels investment than the UK figures would suggest due to the bias to the south
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The government (the Department for Transport) decides what services should be run, and then train companies bid for it. The Northern Rail franchise is loss making, so from the government's point of view, what it's looking for is to pay as low as possible a subsidy. I don't know if Northern Rail is better run or worse run than the more "glamorous" franchises like the West Coast Mainline, where the operator pays a premium to the government to run the service.citizenJA wrote:This is my thinking too. I ask, does it work? Is the service provision effective, giving those served and those providing the service what they need/want? Is the system functioning well and needs/wants getting met sustainably?howsillyofme1 wrote:On rail the figures I posted yesterday showed the absolutely pathetic amount of investment in rail by the Government (1/3 of the average of the figures available and it is possible even this is over-estimated) and if the high fares (not just 'business' fares, any non-advance fares are a sign of success of the the current situation)
I don't mind companies making a profit if they deliver a good service at a reasonable price - neither is the case from my experience and a number of franchises are monopolies on their routes
If you live in the North of England, or travel their frequently, then the rail service is generally bad - with even lower levels investment than the UK figures would suggest due to the bias to the south
These are the lines that are part of Northern Rail.
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Some of those lines look like they could be devolved to the City Regions, like I've said. But I suppose that might not be great for other places in the franchise that don't get devolved. You could easily be left with routes in declining areas, but without a high profile champion like Burnham.
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Though various battles,some successful over crossrail I believe just to be able to fully use and continuing for the fundamental rights of travel for significant numbers in London as elsewhere.
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Fit for work? Oh do feck off!!
Multiple levels of dimwittery, of course.
Fit for work? Oh do feck off!!
Multiple levels of dimwittery, of course.
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Agreed.HindleA wrote:Though various battles,some successful over crossrail I believe just to be able to fully use and continuing for the fundamental rights of travel for significant numbers in London as elsewhere.
The UK is a beautiful country. I love hiking, I learned to love it here.
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Fourty years of cryptic crossword addiction may have consequences.
(that wasn't a clue)
Or maybe it was,looking for an anagram.
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Or maybe it was,looking for an anagram.
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Goodnight, everyone
love,
cJA
love,
cJA
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Night night.
Night night.