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Thursday, 31st August 2017

Posted: Thu 31 Aug, 2017 7:41 am
by PorFavor
Good morfternoon.

@RogerOThornhill

Thanks for the update last night (I've just read it).

As ever, all good wishes.

Re: Thursday, 31st August 2017

Posted: Thu 31 Aug, 2017 8:14 am
by PaulfromYorkshire
PorFavor wrote:Good morfternoon.

@RogerOThornhill

Thanks for the update last night (I've just read it).

As ever, all good wishes.
Indeed.

Re: Thursday, 31st August 2017

Posted: Thu 31 Aug, 2017 8:21 am
by RogerOThornhill
Morning all.

Thank you. I'd got to the point where I was thinking about what I would tell the kids if the worst happened. Awful feeling.

So, 20 years eh?

One of the most ludicrous things I've ever seen was on the release of Candle In The Wind where I happened to be in the local town and decided to go to Our Price to have a look for something. Big mistake. The queue of people lining up to pay for the single stretched through the shop and 20 yards or so into the shopping centre.

I just though "What the bloody hell?" - most of the country seemed to have taken leave of their senses - people saying they felt worse than after their mum or dad died!

Re: Thursday, 31st August 2017

Posted: Thu 31 Aug, 2017 8:26 am
by PorFavor
RogerOThornhill wrote:Morning all.

Thank you. I'd got to the point where I was thinking about what I would tell the kids if the worst happened. Awful feeling.

So, 20 years eh?

One of the most ludicrous things I've ever seen was on the release of Candle In The Wind where I happened to be in the local town and decided to go to Our Price to have a look for something. Big mistake. The queue of people lining up to pay for the single stretched through the shop and 20 yards or so into the shopping centre.

I just though "What the bloody hell?" - most of the country seemed to have taken leave of their senses - people saying they felt worse than after their mum or dad died!
Indeed. Although I miss "Our Price".

Re: Thursday, 31st August 2017

Posted: Thu 31 Aug, 2017 8:30 am
by PorFavor
@PaulfromYorkshire

Sorry - just pinched your "indeed". Valves still warming up . . .

Re: Thursday, 31st August 2017

Posted: Thu 31 Aug, 2017 9:28 am
by HindleA
Our "Our Price" was the last to close.It had a party and everything.

Re: Thursday, 31st August 2017

Posted: Thu 31 Aug, 2017 9:30 am
by HindleA
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... are_btn_tw" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Thursday, 31st August 2017

Posted: Thu 31 Aug, 2017 9:43 am
by PorFavor
"Our Price" is responsible for my owning some really awful LPs which I bought on the back of loving just one or two tracks. ("Our Price" used to have a sort of "remainders bin" - the contents of which were so cheap that I couldn't resist.)

Re: Thursday, 31st August 2017

Posted: Thu 31 Aug, 2017 9:57 am
by HindleA
http://disabilityunited.co.uk/2017/08/s ... ialnetwork" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


Supporters Show Care Act Appeal Matters

Re: Thursday, 31st August 2017

Posted: Thu 31 Aug, 2017 10:10 am
by PorFavor
The Shinzo Abe\Theresa May press conference is scheduled for 10.45am.

Re: Thursday, 31st August 2017

Posted: Thu 31 Aug, 2017 10:13 am
by HindleA
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Why Brexit has led to falling real wages


Wren-Lewis

Re: Thursday, 31st August 2017

Posted: Thu 31 Aug, 2017 10:18 am
by HindleA
My brother's Birthday presents to me was music he liked;if I wanted to listen to them I had to pay a rental fee for record/tape player.

Re: Thursday, 31st August 2017

Posted: Thu 31 Aug, 2017 10:19 am
by HindleA
More generous now he buys books he likes,reads them but doesn't charge a lending/reading fee.

Re: Thursday, 31st August 2017

Posted: Thu 31 Aug, 2017 10:27 am
by HindleA
https://amp.theguardian.com/society/201 ... e-spending" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


Report slams distribution of government's £9bn childcare spending


http://www.smf.co.uk/publications/a-lost-generation/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Thursday, 31st August 2017

Posted: Thu 31 Aug, 2017 10:48 am
by HindleA
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... rty-wealth" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


We’re too fixated on class. What matters is our ability to understand others
Jolyon Maugham

Re: Thursday, 31st August 2017

Posted: Thu 31 Aug, 2017 10:59 am
by HindleA
Clarifications and Corrections


Christmas presents,he barely remembers his own birthday never mind anybody elses least of all recognise them in any way.

Re: Thursday, 31st August 2017

Posted: Thu 31 Aug, 2017 11:04 am
by Willow904
HindleA wrote:https://amp.theguardian.com/society/201 ... e-spending


Report slams distribution of government's £9bn childcare spending


http://www.smf.co.uk/publications/a-lost-generation/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
When you put this alongside the Frances Ryan piece you linked earlier which shows how families are losing quite substantial sums from the family element on moving across to universal credit, the overall picture is pretty stark. They're taking money from those most in need in the name of austerity to give to the better off to buy votes to stay in power. It's always been the Tory MO, but they're going so far so fast you wonder whether it'll all keep hanging together for them or if something will break so badly even the Mail can't ignore it any longer.

Re: Thursday, 31st August 2017

Posted: Thu 31 Aug, 2017 11:06 am
by HindleA
Once whilst doing the school run,wearing his wifes's (rather skimpy)dressing gown and nothing else the car broke down and had to walk to the garage.The car got sorted eventually not sure if witnesses/staff have completely recovered.

Re: Thursday, 31st August 2017

Posted: Thu 31 Aug, 2017 11:16 am
by RogerOThornhill
I've just taken a look at the #Diana20 and saw this which made me laugh so much...
Franklin Lake‏Verified account @FranklinLake_ 4h4 hours ago
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You called out to our country
& you whispered to those in pain
you belong to heaven
& the stars spell out your name
#Diana20 #PrincessDiana
:lol:

Re: Thursday, 31st August 2017

Posted: Thu 31 Aug, 2017 11:41 am
by PorFavor
The press conference was a non-event (although I didn't expect otherwise). Although I learned that we make nice pitchers which, at a pinch (and as a one-off), blend well into a Japanese tea ceremony.

Re: Thursday, 31st August 2017

Posted: Thu 31 Aug, 2017 11:45 am
by mbc1955
Roger

Absolutely pleased at your news. Good wishes to all of you that this is the final turning point.

Re: Thursday, 31st August 2017

Posted: Thu 31 Aug, 2017 12:04 pm
by RogerOThornhill
Interesting to see that Toby Young and the NSN people aren't crowing about the primary attainment at KS2 like they did about GCSEs...

Percentage reaching expected standard in Reading, Writing, and Maths
Local authority maintained mainstream schools.........62
Academies and free schools (mainstream)................61
Of which:
Sponsored academies (mainstream).........................52
Converter academies (mainstream)..........................65
Free schools (mainstream)......................................54
All state-funded mainstream schools........................62


Ah, that'll be the reason...poor Tobes, his beloved schools beaten by those run by politicians and bureaucrats...

Re: Thursday, 31st August 2017

Posted: Thu 31 Aug, 2017 12:33 pm
by RogerOThornhill
Oh dear...
Tom Nuttall‏Verified account @tom_nuttall 13m13 minutes ago
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Barnier: I'm meticulously following the negotiating guidelines. For UK, that's precisely the problem.
Tom Nuttall‏Verified account @tom_nuttall 12m12 minutes ago
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Barnier: when I read UK position papers, I detect a form of nostalgia - enjoying benefits of single market while not being part of it.

Re: Thursday, 31st August 2017

Posted: Thu 31 Aug, 2017 12:56 pm
by PorFavor
I quite enjoyed Michel Barnier's Dr David Banner impression.



Edited - typo

Edited again

It's Dr David Banner and not Bannen. Mortified.

Re: Thursday, 31st August 2017

Posted: Thu 31 Aug, 2017 12:57 pm
by Willow904
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Ian Dunt @IanDunt
Barnier: "UK wants to adopt its own standards... but also have its own standards recognised in EU. This is impossible. You cannot be outside
12:02 pm · 31 Aug 2017

Ian Dunt @IanDunt
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single market and shape its legal order." God this is depressing.

Re: Thursday, 31st August 2017

Posted: Thu 31 Aug, 2017 1:15 pm
by AnatolyKasparov
Ah yes, 20 years ago.

In the week after the crash, I was in the town square chatting to a mate as I waited for a taxi.

This middle aged woman walked up to us literally wagging her finger, and then exclaimed "why are you just standing there laughing and joking, why aren't you showing that you CARE?"

We were, quite literally, speechless.

Just as well she didn't see the copy of Private Eye I had just bought, either. One of their greatest covers ever 8-)

Re: Thursday, 31st August 2017

Posted: Thu 31 Aug, 2017 1:31 pm
by RogerOThornhill
DAG thoughts on the single market - the final two tweets say it all really.

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Re: Thursday, 31st August 2017

Posted: Thu 31 Aug, 2017 1:55 pm
by HindleA
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Political parties’ 2016 financial accounts published


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Re: Thursday, 31st August 2017

Posted: Thu 31 Aug, 2017 2:03 pm
by HindleA
https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 ... udy-claims" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Thursday, 31st August 2017

Posted: Thu 31 Aug, 2017 2:14 pm
by AnatolyKasparov
It appears that the Daily Telegraph, at one times a genuinely well regarded media outlet despite its well known political leanings, thinks Corbyn "appointed" Tom Watson as his deputy.

Re: Thursday, 31st August 2017

Posted: Thu 31 Aug, 2017 4:08 pm
by StephenDolan
AnatolyKasparov wrote:It appears that the Daily Telegraph, at one times a genuinely well regarded media outlet despite its well known political leanings, thinks Corbyn "appointed" Tom Watson as his deputy.
:rofl:

Re: Thursday, 31st August 2017

Posted: Thu 31 Aug, 2017 4:28 pm
by AnatolyKasparov
An opinion poll in New Zealand, which goes to the polls in a few weeks, has Labour overtaking the National Party for the first time in 12 years (!)

Re: Thursday, 31st August 2017

Posted: Thu 31 Aug, 2017 4:31 pm
by HindleA
http://www.cas.org.uk/news/scotlands-th ... -be-halted" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


Scotland's third sector unites to call for Universal Credit roll out to be halted

Re: Thursday, 31st August 2017

Posted: Thu 31 Aug, 2017 4:32 pm
by AnatolyKasparov
StephenDolan wrote:
AnatolyKasparov wrote:It appears that the Daily Telegraph, at one times a genuinely well regarded media outlet despite its well known political leanings, thinks Corbyn "appointed" Tom Watson as his deputy.
:rofl:
The only appropriate response really ;)

Re: Thursday, 31st August 2017

Posted: Thu 31 Aug, 2017 4:45 pm
by HindleA
Thanks for NZ update AK,some info/coverage here:-



http://www.radionz.co.nz/specials/election2017" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


http://www.radionz.co.nz/news/political ... atest-poll" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Thursday, 31st August 2017

Posted: Thu 31 Aug, 2017 5:40 pm
by HindleA
https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 ... les-rights" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


UN panel criticises UK failure to uphold disabled people's rights
Charities say report is grim reality check and Labour says it highlights how disabled people are bearing brunt of austerity

Re: Thursday, 31st August 2017

Posted: Thu 31 Aug, 2017 5:43 pm
by HindleA
I take issue about just "austerity".Seriously believe they would have pursued,given zero cost savings at best and/or continue to do so,in any case?

Re: Thursday, 31st August 2017

Posted: Thu 31 Aug, 2017 5:44 pm
by HindleA
More segregation re.schools?

Re: Thursday, 31st August 2017

Posted: Thu 31 Aug, 2017 5:45 pm
by RogerOThornhill
Just to prove that life really is just one damn thing after another...

I went swimming only to get out and find my locker had been broken into, bag taken with keys inside...and then find my car had been nicked.

So instead of going to see my dear wife, I am awaiting a locksmith to change the locks just in case.

:cry:

Re: Thursday, 31st August 2017

Posted: Thu 31 Aug, 2017 5:48 pm
by HindleA
FFS.

Re: Thursday, 31st August 2017

Posted: Thu 31 Aug, 2017 5:52 pm
by AnatolyKasparov
Oh dear Roger, Shakespeare was right that these things never come singly. Hope things improve for you soon!

Re: Thursday, 31st August 2017

Posted: Thu 31 Aug, 2017 6:04 pm
by HindleA
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Re: Thursday, 31st August 2017

Posted: Thu 31 Aug, 2017 6:07 pm
by Willow904
RogerOThornhill wrote:Just to prove that life really is just one damn thing after another...

I went swimming only to get out and find my locker had been broken into, bag taken with keys inside...and then find my car had been nicked.

So instead of going to see my dear wife, I am awaiting a locksmith to change the locks just in case.

:cry:
That's just awful. I'm really sorry to hear that.

Re: Thursday, 31st August 2017

Posted: Thu 31 Aug, 2017 6:08 pm
by citizenJA
RogerOThornhill wrote:Just to prove that life really is just one damn thing after another...

I went swimming only to get out and find my locker had been broken into, bag taken with keys inside...and then find my car had been nicked.

So instead of going to see my dear wife, I am awaiting a locksmith to change the locks just in case.

:cry:
oh, no
dreadful news, Roger, I'm sorry

Re: Thursday, 31st August 2017

Posted: Thu 31 Aug, 2017 6:10 pm
by citizenJA
whomever it was knew what you drove

Re: Thursday, 31st August 2017

Posted: Thu 31 Aug, 2017 6:37 pm
by PorFavor
@RogerOThornhill

Bummer. You're wise to take the lock-changing precaution. I hope it all gets sorted out satisfactorily and that hospital visits can be accomplished without too much trouble. Car hire? Perhaps your insurance covers that.

Re: Thursday, 31st August 2017

Posted: Thu 31 Aug, 2017 6:45 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
"Once we've shown Europe the way, they'll all be following us out the door. And the EU will only make it worse if it tries to punish us" etc.

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Re: Thursday, 31st August 2017

Posted: Thu 31 Aug, 2017 6:57 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
RogerOThornhill wrote:Interesting to see that Toby Young and the NSN people aren't crowing about the primary attainment at KS2 like they did about GCSEs...

Percentage reaching expected standard in Reading, Writing, and Maths
Local authority maintained mainstream schools.........62
Academies and free schools (mainstream)................61
Of which:
Sponsored academies (mainstream).........................52
Converter academies (mainstream)..........................65
Free schools (mainstream)......................................54
All state-funded mainstream schools........................62


Ah, that'll be the reason...poor Tobes, his beloved schools beaten by those run by politicians and bureaucrats...
Appreciate you still keeping your eye on this. Nicked it to post elsewhere.

Look at those "already successful in LAs" converter academies getting the average up.

Re: Thursday, 31st August 2017

Posted: Thu 31 Aug, 2017 6:58 pm
by PorFavor
Tubby Isaacs wrote:"Once we've shown Europe the way, they'll all be following us out the door. And the EU will only make it worse if it tries to punish us" etc.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DIkKqMLXUAAUiUZ.jpg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
"23 Paces to Baker Street" springs to mind.

Re: Thursday, 31st August 2017

Posted: Thu 31 Aug, 2017 7:15 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
I had to look that up. Sounds very interesting.

Spain seems to be the strongest "hit the UK harder". They've spotted a chance to replace us at the top table in the EU.