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Robots and AI can bring down pension age, says TUC


Yes - you'd have thought so, wouldn't you? But then there's the problem of what to do with all that leisure time . . .

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/sep/04/use-gains-from-ai-and-robots-to-bring-down-pension-age-tuc-urges


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A happy birthday to Roger for tomorrow,I believe.I tend to remember such things whilst having to look to see what clothes I have put on,if any etc.


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Robots and AI can bring down pension age, says TUC


Yes - you'd have thought so, wouldn't you? But then there's the problem of what to do with all that leisure time . . .

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/sep/04/use-gains-from-ai-and-robots-to-bring-down-pension-age-tuc-urges

I remember when I was a kid that "what will people do with their newfound leisure time?" was seen as a significant issue.

Hmmm...


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Bin obsession over nuclear annihilation.I suppose it is a question of priorities.


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Bin obsession over nuclear annihilation.I suppose it is a question of priorities.

Oh absolutely.

I wonder if Mr Dacre has realised that his Brexit bandwagon is looking a little weak and wobbly and the bins are a simple diversion.


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I was just about to, astonished, retweet a quote from Nick Clegg that I actually agreed with when it disappeared :lol:

Back to the normal drivel I imagine....

It said something like Tories saying they are making progress on Brexit are like a group of workers on a building site saying they've made a nice cup of tea.

Probably realised it's grossly insulting to builders :twisted:


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Ah here it is!

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Nick Clegg: saying progress has been made on Brexit is like staring at an empty building site having made a cup of tea. Excellent. #r4today


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Nick Clegg: saying progress has been made on Brexit is like staring at an empty building site having made a cup of tea. Excellent. #r4today


[As retweeted by HindleA]


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Another made-to-order royal distraction drain on the tax-payer - coming to a sovereign nation near you .

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for the benefit of anyone not acquainted with the joyous tidings.


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"In 2009, when the UK ratified the CRPD it didn’t seem like anything particularly challenging or unachievable"

"Over the past seven years, cuts to benefits, social care, the legal system and local authority funding have effectively put decades of slow, painful progress into reverse"



"For two days, the UK delegation dodged many of the UN’s questions, made numerous unsubstantiated assertions and, when they did have the data, often used it in ways that were misleading. Asked to provide data on the numbers of disabled benefit claimants facing sanctions, the delegation responded that it was “less than 1%” (a month). Luckily, a sharp-eared audience member noticed a disparity between this figure and the UK government’s own published data and, on day two, the delegation was forced to admit that a better answer would have been 18% a year."


"As for any positives to be drawn from this inspection process, I can think of two. It is enormously heartening to know that the UN has seen through the UK government’s smokescreen, and to know that it recognises the experiences of disabled people in the UK. And, for the next few years, this report sets the benchmark by which our government’s behaviour on disability rights will be judged."


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PorFavor wrote:
Another made-to-order royal distraction


Hmmm, I'm not sure that they are actually produced TO ORDER. A convenient distraction though, it goes without saying.


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Japan princess to wed commoner, forcing her to quit royal family


Japan's royal family may well be the one (in developed democracies at any rate) that has changed the least with the times.

A lot of very restrictive and stifling "rules" still in place, especially for the female members.


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HS2 Exceptional Hardship Scheme and HS2 Need to Sell Scheme: applications statistics

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Universal basic income and the future of work


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Shocking news of the day (not)


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I'm holding several thoughts in my head uncomfortably.

I thoroughly love looking at mums and dads with their children, even if they're royal family members. It's a universal gloriousness. People born without money have just as much right to that gloriousness. The sentiment is often heard, read or implied, 'poor people shouldn't have children they can't afford'. It's a shocking rudeness, it's wrong.

Inherited money and resources another receive without having done anything to earn it troubles me. It's not okay for some people going without necessities while others have more than they can consume. I don't know how to administer and correct this injustice but I know it's injustice.


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Universal basic income and the future of work

Every adult and emancipated minor should have the same income and benefits of UK Members of Parliament
I told this to Mr citizen just this morning


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In the Times today (paywall) Matt Chorley says Theresa May is considering making Jacob Rees-Mogg a minister. On the Daily Politics Rees-Mogg (a“pantomime toff”, according to a recent Bagehot column in the Economist) did not sound particularly keen on the prospect.
(Politics Live, Guardian)


Did anyone see it?


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She likely sees it as an attempt to neutralise him - and so, very possibly, does he.


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Barnier says his comment about 'teaching' Britons about impact of Brexit taken out of context

Barnier, the EU’s chief Brexit negotatior, insisted this morning that his comments were taken out of context. When he suggesting[sic] teaching British people a lesson, he meant in the spirit of Mr Chips, not the Kray twins, he reveals. (Politics Live, Guardian - my emphasis)


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This is a tiny bit of a shame because there are many worse conservative writers and commentators out there than Peter Oborne but this is still quite a read.

April 2017 - History beckons: This election gives Mrs May the chance to do what every Conservative leader since Churchill has dreamed of - putting an end to Labour for ever.

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Oborne is very good when he's good, but when he's not he's equally bad.

He wrote in similar glowing terms about Cameron at one time, hard though that may be to believe now.


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This is a tiny bit of a shame because there are many worse conservative writers and commentators out there than Peter Oborne but this is still quite a read.

April 2017 - History beckons: This election gives Mrs May the chance to do what every Conservative leader since Churchill has dreamed of - putting an end to Labour for ever.

Spectacular.

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This is a tiny bit of a shame because there are many worse conservative writers and commentators out there than Peter Oborne but this is still quite a read.

April 2017 - History beckons: This election gives Mrs May the chance to do what every Conservative leader since Churchill has dreamed of - putting an end to Labour for ever.
Spectacular.

Has Oborne commented on his article linked above since the 2017 GE?


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Dominic Lawson has a new man to blame for the Brexit fuck up. It's somebody who works for Juncker- Martin "the monster" Selmayr.

I love this stuff. Like Angela Merkel and Emmanuel Macron are sitting there thinking "Oh darn! There's us wanting to do a brilliant deal with Britain, and we can't because we ceded power to a bloke called The Monster!"


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At the insistence of the Commission — which in effect is acting as the divorce lawyer for the 27 remaining states — the UK must agree to cough up a vast sum before we can even begin to discuss the post-Brexit trading terms between us.

In other words, the long-term future of families in the EU — the people who will benefit most from an amicable trade deal — is less important than getting lots of dosh up front.

This is understandable from the Commission’s point of view. While the UK’s contribution to the EU’s finances may not be significant in terms of those countries’ overall economies, it is of enormous consequence to the Commission itself, amounting to 14 per cent of its total income — notably the salaries and the pensions of the 35,000 or so officials who work for it.

The most influential of those officials is not the President of the Commission, Jean-Claude Juncker. No, the man of power there is that bibulous and erratic Luxembourger’s chief of staff, Martin Selmayr.
This 46-year-old German lawyer is known in the corridors of the Berlaymont as ‘the monster’. Both brilliant and a fearsome bully, Selmayr is a fanatical believer in ‘the project’ and is determined not only that Britain is punished for its decision to leave, but so obviously punished that no other nation will ever again even dream of taking the same action.


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The Monster.

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Where'd you get that, Tubby Isaacs?


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Twitter.

"The Monster" has also had a story on Bloomberg about him. There's been briefing going on.

You didn't think Dominic Lawson had done some research himself, did you?


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This gamer clown has popped up again, with his historical insights.

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Nazis actually made a point of detesting Communism because it was a "Jewish" ideology, but I wouldn't expect your average "gamer" to know such basic history.


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Grenfell: What will it mean for the future fire safety of disabled people?


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Having failed against Nicky Morgan for chair of the Treasury Select committee, Jacob Rees-Mogg has lowered his sights to a spot on the Exiting the EU committee. This time he's up against Anna Soubry, among others.

http://m.huffpost.com/uk/entry/uk_59ad6 ... mg00000004

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Afternoon folks,
Since excess leisure time is up for discussion, any of you who watched the live coverage of the Tour of Britain today will have seen me and my mate Steve applauding the peleton. Half way up a hill between Winters Gibbet and Forestburngate. No idea if we'll be on tonights highlights, but its worth watching for the views of Northumberland.

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Britain’s trade minister has heralded the arrival of a “second Elizabethan Golden Age” as the country breaks away from the European Union.

Speaking on his first foreign visit since the referendum, Lord Price predicted that the falling value of sterling will boost investment into to the UK give exporters “a helping hand”. He told business leaders in Hong Kong that British companies would enjoy less regulation and an “even more competitive” tax system after Brexit.

Major government-backed campaigns will help to boost annual exports from Britain by as much as £70 billion by 2020, he predicted.

Lord Price said departing the EU would hand the country a “fresh start” with an “open economy”, adding: “I will use this week’s G20 trade ministers meeting in Shanghai to start building these important relationships with counterparts ahead of our negotiations.”

Setting out ambitious plans to transform Britain into a “super connected trading hub”, the minister said the country could maintain a close relationship with Europe while striking new deals across the world.


The Minister did indeed herald this exciting new era. Last year.

Yesterday, he quit.

Where are his government-backed exports?


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Guardian understands shadow cabinet will decide to whip MPs to vote against ‘great repeal bill’ at second reading (Guardian)


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Some interesting points in this Brexit article from Faisal Islam:

http://news.sky.com/story/amp/sky-views ... e-11019976

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So this leaves Theresa May a prisoner not of her Brexit rebels but to Parliamentary arithmetic and the reality of her negotiating hand, and under strong pressure from business interests to sort things out quickly. Her Cabinet allies point out that it is not just Tory MPs who do not want another election but SNP MPs too, they calculate, would fear a further loss of seats, and not vote for an early election as required under the Fixed Term Parliament Act (plans to scrap this appear to have been mysteriously parked).

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Some interesting points in this Brexit article from Faisal Islam:

http://news.sky.com/story/amp/sky-views ... e-11019976

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So this leaves Theresa May a prisoner not of her Brexit rebels but to Parliamentary arithmetic and the reality of her negotiating hand, and under strong pressure from business interests to sort things out quickly. Her Cabinet allies point out that it is not just Tory MPs who do not want another election but SNP MPs too, they calculate, would fear a further loss of seats, and not vote for an early election as required under the Fixed Term Parliament Act (plans to scrap this appear to have been mysteriously parked).


That was a long one - I admit to skim-reading it - but very interesting. Thanks.

(The first paragraph was a masterpiece!)


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