Thursday 7th September 2017
Posted: Thu 07 Sep, 2017 7:10 am
Morning all.
https://www.theguardian.com/news/2017/s ... heir-powerThe long read
How the aristocracy preserved their power
After democracy finally shunted aside hereditary lords, they found new means to protect their extravagant riches. For all the modern tales of noble poverty and leaking ancestral homes, their private wealth and influence remains phenomenal (Guardian)
You'd think they'd know, wouldn't you?He said the government was looking into whether it would need to formally confirm its departure from the European Economic Area (the EEA - a group comprising the EU, plus Norway, Iceland and Liechtenstein). He said the EEA agreement would no longer apply to the UK after Brexit, but that a more formal departure might be necessary.
We are considering what steps, if any, we might need to take to formally confirm our withdrawal from the EEA agreement as a matter of international law. (Politics Live, Guardian)
Give them a chance - it's not as if they've had over a year to think about complexities like this...PorFavor wrote:If it's not one thing, then it's another . . .
You'd think they'd know, wouldn't you?He said the government was looking into whether it would need to formally confirm its departure from the European Economic Area (the EEA - a group comprising the EU, plus Norway, Iceland and Liechtenstein). He said the EEA agreement would no longer apply to the UK after Brexit, but that a more formal departure might be necessary.
We are considering what steps, if any, we might need to take to formally confirm our withdrawal from the EEA agreement as a matter of international law. (Politics Live, Guardian)
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Davis said it would be a doddle didn't he?RogerOThornhill wrote:Give them a chance - it's not as if they've had over a year to think about complexities like this...PorFavor wrote:If it's not one thing, then it's another . . .
You'd think they'd know, wouldn't you?He said the government was looking into whether it would need to formally confirm its departure from the European Economic Area (the EEA - a group comprising the EU, plus Norway, Iceland and Liechtenstein). He said the EEA agreement would no longer apply to the UK after Brexit, but that a more formal departure might be necessary.
We are considering what steps, if any, we might need to take to formally confirm our withdrawal from the EEA agreement as a matter of international law. (Politics Live, Guardian)
Morning all.
AnatolyKasparov wrote:I see we've got a spammer, oh joy.
Not looking good for significant amendments, though:Starmer is winding up now.
He says the bill was originally called the great repeal bill.
The word “great” should have been preserved. It is a great power-grab bill, he says.
Unless the government makes some considerable changes, Labour will vote against it on Monday, he says.
Not exactly fighting talk is it? Meanwhile...Anna Soubry MP @Anna_Soubry
#Labour v foolish to vote against #EUwithdrawalbill at 2nd reading - Govt clearly listening to concerns & willing to amend
1:06 pm · 7 Sep 2017
Nearly 40 Conservative MPs have signed a letter saying that staying in the single market during the transition period would be a “historic mistake”
Yes. Anna Soubry almost makes Shirley Williams look principled.Willow904 wrote:From the G live blog:
Not looking good for significant amendments, though:Starmer is winding up now.
He says the bill was originally called the great repeal bill.
The word “great” should have been preserved. It is a great power-grab bill, he says.
Unless the government makes some considerable changes, Labour will vote against it on Monday, he says.
Not exactly fighting talk is it? Meanwhile...Anna Soubry MP @Anna_Soubry
#Labour v foolish to vote against #EUwithdrawalbill at 2nd reading - Govt clearly listening to concerns & willing to amend
1:06 pm · 7 Sep 2017
Nearly 40 Conservative MPs have signed a letter saying that staying in the single market during the transition period would be a “historic mistake”
If you google their name, you'll find nothing apart from links to other websites such as ConHome.Taxpayers’ money is being used to fund an influential group of hard-line pro-Brexit Conservative MPs who are increasingly operating as a “party-within-a-party”, openDemocracy can reveal today.
Despite expenses rules stating that MPs cannot claim for research or work “done for, or on behalf of, a political party”, the European Research Group has received over a quarter of a million pounds from MPs who claimed the public cash through their official expenses.
In his speech, Sir Keir Starmer singled out clause 9 of the EU withdrawal bill for particular criticism. (See 1.16pm.) But, according to Paul Hardy, clause 6 is also hugely significant. Hardy is a former EU legal adviser to the House of Lords and is now Brexit director at the law firm DLA Piper. In a briefing sent to journalists he said:
Clause 6 is critical. It currently states that British courts “need not have any regard to anything done on, or after, edit day by the European court of justice (ECJ), or the EU, but may do if it considers appropriate to do so”. This might sound like technical legalese, but in legislative terms this is an emphatic rejection of any influence of the ECJ on UK courts after 29 March 2019. This is political dynamite, as it may preclude any transitional deal, because the EU will want the UK to recognise EU case law even after the formal exit date for the duration of any transitional period.
If the EU is to recognise the draft legislation of the withdrawal bill as a basis for cooperation, it will demand that the UK applies EU rules in exactly the same way as EU member states until it exits from any transitional period. If the bill reaches a final vote in the Commons without an amendment to Clause 6, we can be certain that the EU will not agree to the transitional deal with the UK after March 2019. (Politics Live, Guardian - my emphasis)
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/ ... russels-euMay refuses invitation to address European parliament in public
Exclusive: PM’s decision described as ‘yet another own goal’ as minutes of Brussels meeting reveal low opinion of David Davis
Theresa May has caused further ill will in Brussels by rejecting an invitation to address the European parliament in public, EU sources have said, instead insisting she will only talk to its leaders behind closed doors.
The prime minister had been asked by the parliament’s president, Antonio Tajani, to speak to a full session of the chamber to explain her position on Brexit. (Guardian)
Yes - when I listened to him at the time, I was struck by the number of things that David Davis wouldn't do. I was expecting him to break into the "Meatloaf" song. (Is there mince in meatloaf?)PaulfromYorkshire wrote:A decent account from John Crace
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https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... in-germanyNigel Farage to address far-right rally in Germany
Former Ukip leader was invited to speak at event held by AfD party by the granddaughter of Hitler’s finance minister (Guardian)
See the reference to "woke" Soubry upthreadPaulfromYorkshire wrote:So Keir Starmer, Dominic Grieve and Ken Clarke all think the Great Repeal Bill is a crock of shit.
How can anyone vote for it?
Ouch.For all these self-proclaimed “parliamentarians” who back Brexit, the ends now also justify the means. Leaving the EU has become such a holy grail, increasingly anything goes.
Give the state the power to ignore Parliament: tick. Pay a 50 billion-odd euro divorce bill to leave: tick. Walk out of the EU institutions and then end up following their rules: tick.
The Brexit end justifies the undemocratic means — precisely the kind of argument these same MPs used to resist when made by previous governments trying to bypass Parliament.