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Wednesday, 13th September 2017

Posted: Wed 13 Sep, 2017 8:16 am
by PorFavor
Good morfternoon.

Wednesday 13th September 2017

Posted: Wed 13 Sep, 2017 9:11 am
by RogerOThornhill
Morning all.

The state of this...

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Re: Wednesday, 13th September 2017

Posted: Wed 13 Sep, 2017 9:37 am
by Willow904
Morning.

Great thread.

I particularly liked this reply:
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Re: Wednesday, 13th September 2017

Posted: Wed 13 Sep, 2017 9:39 am
by Willow904
Oh and this one too:
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Re: Wednesday, 13th September 2017

Posted: Wed 13 Sep, 2017 9:42 am
by RogerOThornhill
How odd - I'm sure when I looked at the DP posts there wasn't one for today which was why I started a new one. Apologies for confusion...

Re: Wednesday, 13th September 2017

Posted: Wed 13 Sep, 2017 9:50 am
by Willow904
RogerOThornhill wrote:How odd - I'm sure when I looked at the DP posts there wasn't one for today which was why I started a new one. Apologies for confusion...
Weird. Your thread was the only one I saw as well. I was replying to your comment when the whole thing disappeared and I had to start again!

Meanwhile, CitizenJA is lost somewhere in Tuesday 12th September. Hopefully they'll catch up with us eventually.

Re: Wednesday, 13th September 2017

Posted: Wed 13 Sep, 2017 9:51 am
by PorFavor
RogerOThornhill wrote:How odd - I'm sure when I looked at the DP posts there wasn't one for today which was why I started a new one. Apologies for confusion...
For some reason, my opening gambit got listed out of chronological order and appeared below yesterday's listing. I naturally thought it was a conspiracy . . .

Re: Wednesday, 13th September 2017

Posted: Wed 13 Sep, 2017 10:03 am
by PorFavor
The DUP appears to be labouring under the delusion that this government can walk and chew gum at the same time. (I refer to the Lord Bridges thing over at Politics Live, Guardian.)

Re: Wednesday, 13th September 2017

Posted: Wed 13 Sep, 2017 10:03 am
by PaulfromYorkshire
PorFavor wrote:
RogerOThornhill wrote:How odd - I'm sure when I looked at the DP posts there wasn't one for today which was why I started a new one. Apologies for confusion...
For some reason, my opening gambit got listed out of chronological order and appeared below yesterday's listing. I naturally thought it was a conspiracy . . .
That's because JA was still posting in yesterday so that was the most recent addition ;-)

Id est it was all JA's fault! Only joking JA....

Re: Wednesday, 13th September 2017

Posted: Wed 13 Sep, 2017 10:05 am
by citizenJA
Willow904 wrote:
RogerOThornhill wrote:How odd - I'm sure when I looked at the DP posts there wasn't one for today which was why I started a new one. Apologies for confusion...
Weird. Your thread was the only one I saw as well. I was replying to your comment when the whole thing disappeared and I had to start again!

Meanwhile, CitizenJA is lost somewhere in Tuesday 12th September. Hopefully they'll catch up with us eventually.
:lol:

Re: Wednesday, 13th September 2017

Posted: Wed 13 Sep, 2017 10:12 am
by citizenJA
We've had disruptive neighbour activity within the citizen community
Mr citizen and I have had a couple nights of broken sleep

Re: Wednesday, 13th September 2017

Posted: Wed 13 Sep, 2017 10:13 am
by citizenJA
“Homelessness in all its forms has significantly increased in recent years, driven by several factors. Despite this, government has not evaluated the impact of its reforms on this issue, and there remain gaps in its approach. It is difficult to understand why the Department persisted with its light touch approach in the face of such a visibly growing problem. Its recent performance in reducing homelessness therefore cannot be considered value for money”.

- Amyas Morse, head of the National Audit Office, 13 September 2017

https://www.nao.org.uk/report/homelessness/

Re: Wednesday 13th September 2017

Posted: Wed 13 Sep, 2017 10:21 am
by citizenJA
RogerOThornhill wrote:Morning all.

The state of this...

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Is Montgomerie unaware of how ridiculous his 'unpatriotic news' accusation is? Is he serious?

Re: Wednesday, 13th September 2017

Posted: Wed 13 Sep, 2017 10:40 am
by citizenJA
'Look at how much poverty costs!'

Re: Wednesday, 13th September 2017

Posted: Wed 13 Sep, 2017 10:57 am
by PorFavor
PaulfromYorkshire wrote:
PorFavor wrote:
RogerOThornhill wrote:How odd - I'm sure when I looked at the DP posts there wasn't one for today which was why I started a new one. Apologies for confusion...
For some reason, my opening gambit got listed out of chronological order and appeared below yesterday's listing. I naturally thought it was a conspiracy . . .
That's because JA was still posting in yesterday so that was the most recent addition ;-)

Id est it was all JA's fault! Only joking JA....
I guessed that that might be the reason (that someone was still posting under Tuesday's banner - not that it was citizenJA's fault - though, of course, it was).

Re: Wednesday, 13th September 2017

Posted: Wed 13 Sep, 2017 11:18 am
by adam
“This will be a very sad and tragic moment in our history, we will always regret this,” Juncker said before responding to heckling from Nigel Farage, by retorting: “I think you will regret this soon, I might say.”
I know it's obvious, but what a piece of shit Farage is.

Re: Wednesday, 13th September 2017

Posted: Wed 13 Sep, 2017 11:21 am
by refitman
I may have merged the threads as well.

Re: Wednesday, 13th September 2017

Posted: Wed 13 Sep, 2017 11:30 am
by RogerOThornhill
This is good.

'Short on political cover, the MAT system already looks vulnerable'

https://www.tes.com/news/school-news/br ... vulnerable
The fact is that both May and Greening – May, especially – are risk-averse. And MATs with their oversight model based on the back-of-fag-packet RSCs and stretched Education and Skills Funding Agency are looking very, very politically risky at the moment.

Quite what they might do to mitigate this risk is anyone’s guess (and is likely to be as ad hoc as the RSCs) but there’s a good chance they will do something – especially if Lord Nash goes.

And especially if the terrible newspaper headlines keep coming – and if MAT bosses keep behaving like “masters of the universe”.
As of now, only one third of schools are academies or free schools.

What is needed (but we probably won't get) is a serious strategic look at the whole "system" including LA responsibilities. The RSC system as Ed Durrell says was designed on the back of a fag packet, and if we're not careful it won't be a "school-led system" but one owned by the civil service.

Re: Wednesday, 13th September 2017

Posted: Wed 13 Sep, 2017 11:31 am
by HindleA
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local welfare schemes in ‘meltdown’


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Re: Wednesday 13th September 2017

Posted: Wed 13 Sep, 2017 11:33 am
by AnatolyKasparov
citizenJA wrote:
RogerOThornhill wrote:Morning all.

The state of this...

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Is Montgomerie unaware of how ridiculous his 'unpatriotic news' accusation is? Is he serious?
He knows that some people will believe it (or at least pretend to)

Re: Wednesday, 13th September 2017

Posted: Wed 13 Sep, 2017 11:42 am
by RogerOThornhill
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Fighting talk! Osborne won't rest til May "is chopped up in bags in my freezer", he's reportedly told allies.

Re: Wednesday 13th September 2017

Posted: Wed 13 Sep, 2017 11:46 am
by citizenJA
AnatolyKasparov wrote:
citizenJA wrote:
RogerOThornhill wrote:Morning all.

The state of this...

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Is Montgomerie unaware of how ridiculous his 'unpatriotic news' accusation is? Is he serious?
He knows that some people will believe it (or at least pretend to)
He ought to have greater care for his professional reputation, if nothing else. There was a time he wanted to be taken seriously.

Re: Wednesday, 13th September 2017

Posted: Wed 13 Sep, 2017 11:47 am
by AnatolyKasparov
Mind you if there is anybody out there who can make most people feel at least a smidge of sympathy for our PM, its Gidiot.

Re: Wednesday, 13th September 2017

Posted: Wed 13 Sep, 2017 12:06 pm
by adam

Re: Wednesday, 13th September 2017

Posted: Wed 13 Sep, 2017 12:17 pm
by PorFavor
Theresa Mayniac.

Re: Wednesday, 13th September 2017

Posted: Wed 13 Sep, 2017 12:19 pm
by PorFavor
I'm listening to PMQs. Jeremy Corbyn is actually doing a good job of "thinking on his feet" today.

Re: Wednesday, 13th September 2017

Posted: Wed 13 Sep, 2017 12:19 pm
by Willow904
I didn't understand any of that. Leave the EEA then ask the EEA not to be a single market any more so we can join it again?!!!

WTF?

I suspect I've misunderstood, but still, I can't help wondering if Brexit was predicated on the idea that the EU would collapse if we left and we could throw our weight around and rebuild it in our (Tory spiv) image. We are talking about pretty mediocre thinkers puffed up well beyond their ability by our elitist public school system, after all.

Re: Wednesday, 13th September 2017

Posted: Wed 13 Sep, 2017 12:22 pm
by adam
Willow904 wrote:
I didn't understand any of that. Leave the EEA then ask the EEA not to be a single market any more so we can join it again?!!!

WTF?

I suspect I've misunderstood, but still, I can't help wondering if Brexit was predicated on the idea that the EU would collapse if we left and we could throw our weight around and rebuild it in our (Tory spiv) image. We are talking about pretty mediocre thinkers puffed up well beyond their ability by our elitist public school system, after all.
I'm not sure either - although possibly I do understand and what I understand is that it doesn't make sense - but I think the claim is that we can somehow sneakily start negotiating trade deals with individual EU nations, and bypass the EU's considered and consistent position on the shape of negotiations, by leaving the EEA early, and that the rest of the EU nations, or at least enough of them to make it worthwhile, will ignore the EU's position and go ahead with us.

Re: Wednesday, 13th September 2017

Posted: Wed 13 Sep, 2017 12:34 pm
by Willow904
The Independent seems to have some slightly different, rather less batty "intel":

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It is thought Ms May is preparing to try to reassure business and Brussels by setting out that any transitional agreement must be “as close as possible” to current relations with the EU.

Re: Wednesday, 13th September 2017

Posted: Wed 13 Sep, 2017 12:37 pm
by AnatolyKasparov
That brilliant wheeze is reportedly the idea of Legatum, one of the favourite Brexiteer "thinktanks".

Their latest bright idea is apparently - wait for it! - airships patrolling the UK/RoI border :?

Re: Wednesday, 13th September 2017

Posted: Wed 13 Sep, 2017 12:52 pm
by RogerOThornhill
Legatum is where Phillipa Stroud is now as CEO...which tells you all you need to know about them. Oh, and Matthew Elliot and Christina Odone...

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Re: Wednesday, 13th September 2017

Posted: Wed 13 Sep, 2017 2:38 pm
by PorFavor
DUP plans to vote with Labour on NHS pay and tuition fees

A DUP source confirmed the party’s MPs would vote for two opposition day motions tabled by Labour. The votes are believed to be non-binding and therefore fall outside the DUP’s confidence and supply agreement with Theresa May’s party. (Guardian)
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... ition-fees

Re: Wednesday, 13th September 2017

Posted: Wed 13 Sep, 2017 3:26 pm
by AnatolyKasparov
It won't really change anything as pointed out, but still interesting.

Re: Wednesday, 13th September 2017

Posted: Wed 13 Sep, 2017 3:56 pm
by RogerOThornhill
Well this is good news...

DfE won’t fund Toby Young and Sir Anthony Seldon’s fast-track headship college

http://schoolsweek.co.uk/exclusive-dfe- ... p-college/
The free schools advocate Toby Young and former top headteacher Sir Anthony Seldon were “in talks with ministers” in April last year about a college that would parachute promising candidates straight into headship positions after at least one year’s intensive training.

Their grand plans have now stalled, however, because the DfE has turned down their request for £10 million from the Teaching and Leadership Innovation Fund.
My opinion of one is well known - the other seems to have a reputation way beyond his actual intellect. Seldon comes out with some remarkable guff.

Re: Wednesday, 13th September 2017

Posted: Wed 13 Sep, 2017 4:41 pm
by HindleA
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Netanyahu's son Yair draws fire after posting 'antisemitic cartoon'

Re: Wednesday, 13th September 2017

Posted: Wed 13 Sep, 2017 4:42 pm
by HindleA
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... re-for-all" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


Bernie Sanders unveils universal healthcare bill: 'We will win this struggle'

Re: Wednesday, 13th September 2017

Posted: Wed 13 Sep, 2017 4:43 pm
by HindleA
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Re: Wednesday, 13th September 2017

Posted: Wed 13 Sep, 2017 4:54 pm
by HindleA
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Sharma refuses request for help funding sprinklers in high rises

Re: Wednesday, 13th September 2017

Posted: Wed 13 Sep, 2017 4:58 pm
by HindleA
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Re: Wednesday, 13th September 2017

Posted: Wed 13 Sep, 2017 5:13 pm
by gilsey
I was in travel limbo most of yesterday so I don't know if you had these, the second one is a good explainer on EFTA/EEA.

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http://www.politics.co.uk/blogs/2017/09 ... ard-brexit" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Wednesday, 13th September 2017

Posted: Wed 13 Sep, 2017 5:18 pm
by HindleA
UC (June)

Single childless 408,772
Single child 65,569
Couple no child 7,784
Couple child 23,395

Housing(total) 236,875

LCW 12,328
Carer 13,283

Re: Wednesday, 13th September 2017

Posted: Wed 13 Sep, 2017 5:41 pm
by PorFavor
General election cost taxpayer £141m, government reveals (Politics Live, Guardian)
Yeah. And the rest.

Re: Wednesday, 13th September 2017

Posted: Wed 13 Sep, 2017 5:49 pm
by citizenJA
PorFavor wrote:
General election cost taxpayer £141m, government reveals (Politics Live, Guardian)
Yeah. And the rest.
democracy is expensive

Re: Wednesday, 13th September 2017

Posted: Wed 13 Sep, 2017 6:09 pm
by PorFavor
citizenJA wrote:
PorFavor wrote:
General election cost taxpayer £141m, government reveals (Politics Live, Guardian)
Yeah. And the rest.
democracy is expensive
Especially when a deal with the DUP is involved!

Re: Wednesday, 13th September 2017

Posted: Wed 13 Sep, 2017 6:14 pm
by AnatolyKasparov
I wouldn't mind, but for the past decade the Tories have constantly told us there is no money.......

Re: Wednesday, 13th September 2017

Posted: Wed 13 Sep, 2017 6:17 pm
by citizenJA
AnatolyKasparov wrote:I wouldn't mind, but for the past decade the Tories have constantly told us there is no money.......
Yes. Regularly repeat that every quarter of an hour within the hearing of every single Tory government MP... 'living within our means'...

Re: Wednesday, 13th September 2017

Posted: Wed 13 Sep, 2017 6:17 pm
by citizenJA
can someone get me a cup of tea, please?

Re: Wednesday, 13th September 2017

Posted: Wed 13 Sep, 2017 6:33 pm
by PorFavor
For those who still need convincing, pop over to Politics Live (Guardian) where there's the new Metro-Goldwyn-May-er release for your delight and delectation -
Downing Street has released a video intended to show the government is making good progress towards Brexit. (Politics Live, Guardian)

Re: Wednesday, 13th September 2017

Posted: Wed 13 Sep, 2017 6:44 pm
by citizenJA
Police Federation accuses May of lying about police pay at PMQs

"May told MPs that, if you take into account progression pay, pay rises and the increase in the income tax threshold,
someone who was a new police officer in 2010 will have seen their post-tax pay increase by £9,000, a real-terms rise of 32%."
I weary of trying to decipher Tory government's concoctions
What does she mean?

Re: Wednesday, 13th September 2017

Posted: Wed 13 Sep, 2017 6:44 pm
by citizenJA
citizenJA wrote:can someone get me a cup of tea, please?
Thank you!
:rock: