FlyTheNest

Morning all.

Good-morning, everyone

Remember, it's Friday

Look for government reports, quiet announcements and stealthy policy coming out this afternoon

Labour the only party to retain a seat in last night's by-elections

Tory loss to Ind

UKIP loss to Tory

Good morfternoon.

PorFavor wrote:Good morfternoon.

May I get you tea or coffee this morning, PorFavor?

Academics uncover 30 words 'lost' from English language



A few of the 'lost' words

Nickum A cheating or dishonest person

Peacockize To behave like a peacock; esp. to pose or strut ostentatiously

Rouzy-bouzy Boisterously drunk

Ruff To swagger, bluster, domineer. To ruff it out / to brag or boast of a thing

Tremblable Causing dread or horror; dreadful

Awhape To amaze, stupefy with fear, confound utterly

University of York/Privilege (BBC News website)

The above come in very handy in "Brexitland".

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-41266000

citizenJA wrote:

PorFavor wrote:Good morfternoon.

May I get you tea or coffee this morning, PorFavor?

Tea, please. Strong, milk, and one and a half sugars. Thank you.

When's Fanny Fanackapan off to Italy? I've forgotten already.

Thankfully it seems like no deaths in the latest London idiocy.

JD Wetherspoon boss: EU leaders should take a 'wise-up pill' on Brexit (Guardian)

A what?

https://www.theguardian.com/business/20 ... tin-pub-eu

PorFavor wrote:When's Fanny Fanackapan off to Italy? I've forgotten already.

Can't she stay there?

PorFavor wrote:

citizenJA wrote:

PorFavor wrote:Good morfternoon.

May I get you tea or coffee this morning, PorFavor?

Tea, please. Strong, milk, and one and a half sugars. Thank you.

sorry for the delay, I apologise for any inconvenience

@citizenJA

Has normal service now been resumed?

Project tendering, opening public services up to private companies, are rewards given the aristocracy from their monarch.
Privatisation is nothing more than bestowing revenue streams to a few who don't work or create anything.

PorFavor wrote:@citizenJA

Has normal service now been resumed?

Until the next chore come hollering through the winda

May will speak in the historic Italian city on Friday 22 September “to update on Brexit negotiations so far”, the prime minister’s spokesman said.

It's a long way to go for what frankly must be quite a brief update.

The last time we were agonising over a big speech form her Mayship was when she announced the election.

In other news, Cassini will self-destruct in just over half an hour.

Humanity does have some god sides doesn't it?

PaulfromYorkshire wrote:

May will speak in the historic Italian city on Friday 22 September “to update on Brexit negotiations so far”, the prime minister’s spokesman said.

It's a long way to go for what frankly must be quite a brief update.

The last time we were agonising over a big speech form her Mayship was when she announced the election.

Thanks.

Still no news (that I can unearth) as to the lucky attendees. I expect she's playing it "close to her chest".

PorFavor wrote:

PaulfromYorkshire wrote:

May will speak in the historic Italian city on Friday 22 September “to update on Brexit negotiations so far”, the prime minister’s spokesman said.

It's a long way to go for what frankly must be quite a brief update.

The last time we were agonising over a big speech form her Mayship was when she announced the election.

Thanks.

Still no news (that I can unearth) as to the lucky attendees. I expect she's playing it "close to her chest".

She's gone there to look at property as a holiday home

citizenJA wrote:

PorFavor wrote:Thanks.

Still no news (that I can unearth) as to the lucky attendees. I expect she's playing it "close to her chest".

She's gone there to look at property as a holiday home

Retirement home hopefully

Part 3 of Dunt's soft brexit explainer.
http://www.politics.co.uk/blogs/2017/09 ... exit-part3" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

This comment btl caught my eye.

we're making lousy decisions and heading for lousy results because we have a lousy political culture.

Sadly, the politicians who understand the virtues of compromise tend to be those who have been around long enough to gain some wisdom - and to have made bad mistakes for which they are discredited. The Lib Dems talk sense about Europe, but after their mistakes in Coalition, few listen. Blair has understood the need for compromise on immigration if we are to stay in the EU (or the EEA), but after Iraq, nobody wants to hear from Blair, either.

Meanwhile May and Davis blunder forward, seemingly believing that the more ridicule they attract, the more confident they can be. What are they really playing at? I would contend that it's a blame game. First, negotiate appallingly with the EU. Wind the EU guys up to the point at which they make intemperate comments, and then pick a fight with them. Make sure that the EU are clearly in the right, so that Labour can be persuaded to side with the foreigners, as Starmer has already done over the transition arrangements. Then when Brexit goes pear-shaped, blame Labour for everything, and seek to win the next election on that basis.

After all, it's a better bet for the Tories than seriously trying to make Brexit a success. It won't be, however well it is planned. So instead of seeking credit for governing successfully, why not just govern badly, and then play a blame game? Labour have long been kept as permanent residents in the Tory doghouse, pilloried for pacifism, overspending, statism, cowardice, in fact just about any charge that can be made to stick, if you repeat it slavishly every day in tabloid newspapers. Labour are about to be the designated fall guys for a failed Brexit next.

My bold.

Far too pessimistic IMO. If the fallout from 2007-08 taught us anything, its that the sitting government gets it in the neck when things really go bad even if its not mainly their fault.

Tories won't get away with a catastrophic "hard" Brexit by blaming their opponents and perfidious foreigners.

Tories like themselves and power so much they'll harm nation and people, lie about responsibility on that scale, in order to 'win' in tabloids and continue in government?

AnatolyKasparov wrote:Far too pessimistic IMO. If the fallout from 2007-08 taught us anything, its that the sitting government gets it in the neck when things really go bad even if its not mainly their fault.

Tories won't get away with a catastrophic "hard" Brexit by blaming their opponents and perfidious foreigners.

I certainly hope so. Tory government have created this mess and show no signs of responsible action. Theresa May asked pardon from the 1922 Committee. She didn't pay much attention to the electorate depriving her of any mandate for her Tory Brexit beyond peevish noises too many young people voted the wrong way.

AnatolyKasparov wrote:Far too pessimistic IMO. If the fallout from 2007-08 taught us anything, its that the sitting government gets it in the neck when things really go bad even if its not mainly their fault.

Tories won't get away with a catastrophic "hard" Brexit by blaming their opponents and perfidious foreigners.

I agree up to a point - but the "perfidious foreigners" might just be their ace in the hole. I hope not.

It might be enough to turn crushing defeat into something vaguely respectable, perhaps.

Linked to this, of course, is the fact the bedrock of their support - elderly, faithful newspaper readers - slowly but surely diminishes in number month by month.

Entitlement culture confirmed with not far off 13million left unclaimed,just in means tested.



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AnatolyKasparov wrote:Far too pessimistic IMO. If the fallout from 2007-08 taught us anything, its that the sitting government gets it in the neck when things really go bad even if its not mainly their fault.

Tories won't get away with a catastrophic "hard" Brexit by blaming their opponents and perfidious foreigners.

One hopes that if this is the plan, it won't succeed.

I'd hesitate to draw a line about what they can get away with, they're already so far beyond any situation I could have conceived of in the past.

https://speyejoe2.wordpress.com/2017/09 ... a-failure/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

https://www.gov.uk/government/statistic ... -june-2017" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

https://www.gov.uk/government/statistic ... -june-2017" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/news/liv ... l-13293199" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Hillsborough 96 to be awarded freedom of Wirral in tribute to victims and campaigners
Wallasey Town Hall's riverside gardens will be dedicated as a tribute to the 96 and those who have led the justice campaign

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/fair ... or-schools" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


Fairer funding system to end 'postcode lottery' for schools

https://www.gov.uk/government/consultat ... in-england" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Primary assessment in England

Summary of the responses we received, along with the government’s response outlining the next steps.
An impact assessment is also available
https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... assessment" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

https://www.gov.uk/government/consultat ... la-stage-2" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Schools national funding formula: stage 2
Government response to the consultation, including a summary of responses received and details of next steps.

https://www.gov.uk/government/consultat ... nsultation" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Local government finance settlement 2018 to 2019: technical consultation

https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... nt-funding" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Academy trust transfers and grant funding

Happy birthday to me.

https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... ts#history" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Guidance
ESA: outcomes of Work Capability Assessment policies and statements


Revised revised revised shake it all about and do the hokey pokey methodology statement.

refitman wrote:Happy birthday to me.

Happy 37th, you young whippersnapper

@refitman

Happy birthday!

Happy Birthday to Refitman,apologies for not spotting.In my defence I am on manoeuvres and contact is sporadic.Thanks for your continued efforts.

refitman wrote:Happy birthday to me.

Mr citizen & cJA wish you a happy birthday!

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Lucky us – it’s an offer we can’t refuse from the Murdochs

Marina Hyde (Guardian)

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... sky-brexit

https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 ... ray-labour" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

universal-credit-total-disarray-labour

Debbie Abrahams, the shadow work and pensions secretary, said: “The government’s flagship universal credit programme is in total disarray. It is unacceptable that one in four claimants are waiting more than six weeks to receive support, alongside mounting debts and arrears among recipients.

“I have written to the secretary of state requesting that he immediately halt the roll-out of universal credit to contain the misery being caused by the disastrous mishandling of this programme.”

Theresa May rebukes Donald Trump over tube bombing tweets

No she bloody well didn't. She made a very anodyne comment, in a TV interview, which could have applied to anyone.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... terrorists

Just so's you know -

Parsons Green: UK terror threat increased to critical after Tube bomb
(BBC News website)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-41288525

Night night.

Three local council byelections yesterday:

West Dorset DC - Independent gain from Tory on a big swing with over half the vote after they had come a distant 4th and last two years ago. 2015 was the first post boundary change election and saw the Tories win both seats here after gaining the predecessor ward in 2011 after it had been shared between the LibDems and Indies (who on both seats 4 years earlier) in 2007. LibDems still came runners up last time, but along with the Greens who came a decent third absented themselves on this occasion - whilst a Labour candidate appeared in these parts for the first time this century, in those circumstances scoring over 14% maybe wasn't so bad.

Mid Devon DC - Tory gain from UKIP who took 2 of the three seats in this ward 2 years ago and topped the poll overall; but in an eloquent comment on their subsequent fall from grace, they did not even stand a candidate this time around. Tories modestly increased to 36% to win a competitive contest, comfortably ahead of an Independent who used to represent this patch - this seat split 2Ind/1Con in both 2007 and 2011 before UKIP took their seats in 2015 - but are still some way off their former strength here. Labour prevented an Independent clean sweep here back in 2003, and they had a healthy increase to 21% now and a close third place. LibDems 4th and last but with a respectable 18%, up on their previous showing in 2011.

Trafford - Labour hold in a safe ward which duly returned 3 councillors for them in the 2004 elections and has done so without fail ever since (even in 2008 it wasn't that close) with just under 65% of the vote and an increase of 26 points since last year, though this is exaggerated by an Independent standing and polling a good second in what is not normally promising territory for them - FWIW there was only a small pro-Labour swing compared to the 2015 figures. In the absence of any Indy challenge this time Tories also advanced by double figures, though there was still a swing to Labour of nearly 8% since last May overall. UKIP first of the also rans though their 4% was over two thirds down on previously, followed by the Greens and finally the LibDems with a not so mighty 1% - down two thirds on last time!

Three contests again next week.