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https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... ech-brexit" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

What to look out for in May's "eagerly awaited" Florence speech.

I'm not eagerly awaiting it, I'm absolutely dreading it! :roll:
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The article I link is quite good actually. I like the last line.
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Addressing her remarks to other EU leaders, rather than the commission, May will tell them they all have a “profound sense of responsibility to make this change work smoothly and sensibly” by reaching a deal.
From the Graun's lead story.

Except she needs to be talking to the Commission, who are dealing with this, and it's been made abundantly clear repeatedly to us that it's our responsibility to make progress on three initial issues, and we're not, and the entire point of the whole fucking thing about leaving is that we don't feel that our future is their responsibility at all.

Our government are delusional. Bringing shame on us all once again, part the nth.
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adam wrote:
Addressing her remarks to other EU leaders, rather than the commission, May will tell them they all have a “profound sense of responsibility to make this change work smoothly and sensibly” by reaching a deal.
From the Graun's lead story.

Except she needs to be talking to the Commission, who are dealing with this, and it's been made abundantly clear repeatedly to us that it's our responsibility to make progress on three initial issues, and we're not, and the entire point of the whole fucking thing about leaving is that we don't feel that our future is their responsibility at all.

Our government are delusional. Bringing shame on us all once again, part the nth.
I have warned everyone. If she actually says "smooth and sensible" I will scream :fire:
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Can I watch the speech anywhere?
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Good morfternoon.
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PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Can I watch the speech anywhere?
Since I don't think I'll make it to Florence now....
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PaulfromYorkshire wrote:
PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Can I watch the speech anywhere?
Since I don't think I'll make it to Florence now....
Ryanair, eh? Disappointing for you.
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Who is going to be there? Do we know yet?
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PorFavor wrote:Who is going to be there? Do we know yet?
I read it is going to be at 1.15 or 2.15 (probably the latter) in the cloisters of Santa Maria Novella

Could be rubbish (the info I mean), but a good excuse for a nice photo ;-)
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Presumably cloisters aren't very well designed for speeches?
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PorFavor wrote:Who is going to be there? Do we know yet?
Laura Kuenssberg is.

Jon Stone is.
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I'm hearing on the news that they've had to do a clean-up operation to clear the pigeon crap from the cloisters in preparation for the speech.

I bet this farce is costing us . . .
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PorFavor wrote:I'm hearing on the news that they've had to do a clean-up operation to clear the pigeon crap from the cloisters in preparation for the speech.
Presumably they are coming back at 4 this afternoon then?
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Speaking of pigeon crap -

Is it too much to hope that . . .
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smooth
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sensible
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Lenny on manoeuvres.
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tinyclanger2 wrote:sensible
:fire: :wall:
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tinyclanger2 wrote:sensible
You missed out the "and". Very important that "and".
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She will admit that “the UK’s departure from the EU is inevitably a difficult process” but will say leaders share “a profound sense of responsibility to make this change work smoothly and sensibly”.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 60226.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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(who me?)
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the speech is being seen in Brussels as an attempt to bypass Commission negotiators.
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PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Presumably cloisters aren't very well designed for speeches?
I always understood them to be for silent contemplation.

Maybe the audience will be offering up a prayer to the Almighty - something like "Dear God, let me out of here..."
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The Independent understands that Brussels officials and negotiators will be staying away from the PM’s critical address, despite chief EU negotiator Michel Barnier already being in Italy to address local politicians the day before.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 59396.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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I'm totally bemused by all this (especially the reaction of the British press). It's the Government's equivalent of "vanity publishing".
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tinyclanger2 wrote:She will admit that “the UK’s departure from the EU is inevitably a difficult process” but will say leaders share “a profound sense of responsibility to make this change work smoothly and sensibly”.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 60226.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
She thinks they should feel a sense of responsibility.
Can't see why, myself.
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https://www.theguardian.com/law/2017/se ... are_btn_tw" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


Labour-backed report calls for more generous legal aid system
Review criticises coalition government’s cuts and calls for new law enshrining right to justice

(Lord Bach report)


https://www.solicitorsjournal.com/news/ ... ustice-act" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Be flexible, especially in negotiations

Machiavelli declared that “a prudent ruler cannot, and must not, honour his word when it places him at a disadvantage,” and especially “when the reasons for which he made his promise no longer exist”.
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http://www.pharmafile.com/news/515182/a ... -who-warns" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Anti-Bexit British expats protesting in Florence ahead of Theresa May’s speech. Photograph: Max Rossi/Reuters
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/bl ... ve-updates" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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May's BIG SPEECH - what a nice birthday present for me.
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AnatolyKasparov wrote:May's BIG SPEECH - what a nice birthday present for me.
:lol:

By-elections not that happy for your birthday either AK :-(

Though I don't understand this result
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Oadby Uplands (Oadby & Wigston) result:

LDEM: 39.0% (+1.2)
LAB: 34.5% (+2.2)
CON: 26.5% (-3.4)

LDem gain from Lab in multi-member ward.
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https://www.statslife.org.uk/social-sci ... -countries" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Leave 17,410,742
Remain 16,141,241
British citizens living elsewhere estimated at 4.5 million
Up to 3 million Britons living overseas are to be denied a vote in the general election, the Cabinet Office has confirmed.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... ote-tories" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Leave 17,410,742 47.6%
Remain 19,141,241 52.4%

So actually not the will of the people - even then.
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Happy Birthday AK.
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AnatolyKasparov wrote:May's BIG SPEECH - what a nice birthday present for me.
HAPPY BIRTHDAY!
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Have many, many more and health & prosperity
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Good-morning, everyone
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@AnatolyKasparov

Happy birthday!
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deep and special partnership
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/bl ... ve-updates" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

ffs
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I've not read the whole thread yet, apologies
Before I forget
The pulpit, lectern, whatever it's called, you know, in the front of a church the preacher delivers the sermon?
I was told the one Theresa May intends to stand behind to speechify, is the same one a spiritual authority condemning Galileo for heresy stood behind

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I haven't confirmed if it's true
I liked the story, anyway
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@AnatolyKasparov
It's a significant year for you, I think
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PaulfromYorkshire wrote:
AnatolyKasparov wrote:May's BIG SPEECH - what a nice birthday present for me.
:lol:

By-elections not that happy for your birthday either AK :-(

Though I don't understand this result
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LDEM: 39.0% (+1.2)
LAB: 34.5% (+2.2)
CON: 26.5% (-3.4)

LDem gain from Lab in multi-member ward.
Ah, there have been a few like that recently ;)

Split ward, Labour took the second seat last time but overall the LibDems topped the poll.
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Transport for London (TfL) will not renew Uber's licence.


Edited to add -

Politics Live (Guardian) now has more detail on this story.
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HindleA wrote:Lenny on manoeuvres.
Hide the liquor, everbody
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-41359589" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;



Parliament advertises for new Black Rod
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tinyclanger2 wrote:https://www.statslife.org.uk/social-sci ... -countries
Leave 17,410,742
Remain 16,141,241
British citizens living elsewhere estimated at 4.5 million
Up to 3 million Britons living overseas are to be denied a vote in the general election, the Cabinet Office has confirmed.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... ote-tories" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Leave 17,410,742 47.6%
Remain 19,141,241 52.4%

So actually not the will of the people - even then.
(cJA bold)
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citizenJA wrote:@AnatolyKasparov
It's a significant year for you, I think
Nah, I had a "biggie" last year. Born in the same year England won the WC.
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tinyclanger2 wrote:https://www.statslife.org.uk/social-sci ... -countries
Leave 17,410,742
Remain 16,141,241
British citizens living elsewhere estimated at 4.5 million
Up to 3 million Britons living overseas are to be denied a vote in the general election, the Cabinet Office has confirmed.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... ote-tories" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Leave 17,410,742 47.6%
Remain 19,141,241 52.4%

So actually not the will of the people - even then.
And then there were the 16/17 year olds, who after all are going to have to live with it.


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