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If I hear the word "creatively" one more time . . .

Michel Barnier must have the song "There's a Hole in my Bucket" running through his head. I know I have. Isn't this more or less where we came in (or went out)?

We wrote of this together last night
Barnier is going to speak fifteen minutes after May's thing is over
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Fuck you, we're special. Spanish Armada, Clive of India, Winston Churchill. Jumpers for goalposts....

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they're furious with her below the line over at the mail. 'That's what happens when you put a remainer in charge - traitor - giving away billions - not good enough - sold britain out

Interesting


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The pound is down against the euro and the dollar as the Prime Minister lays out her Brexit position in a crucial speech in Florence (Business Live, Guardian)


https://www.theguardian.com/business/live/2017/sep/22/pound-steady-ahead-of-theresa-mays-brexit-speech-business-live


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they're furious with her below the line over at the mail. 'That's what happens when you put a remainer in charge - traitor - giving away billions - not good enough - sold britain out

You're going there so we don't have to? Hope you've got your wellies on.

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"The new Tory MP Kirstene Hair has been mocked today for admitting that she could not decide how to vote in the EU referendum..."
I missed that
she's disclosed she didn't vote in the 2016 EU referendum


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Nigel Farage, the former Ukip leader, has told Sky News that May’s announcement means the UK will not be signing any trade deals until 2022. It means Britain is not open for business, he says.


Wasn't the slogan for the creation of the single market in 1992 'Europe will be open for business'?
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How we meet the challenge of the Single Market will be a major factor, possibly the major factor, in our competitive position in European and world markets into the twenty-first century. Getting it right needs a partnership between government and business.
The task of government is two-fold: —to negotiate in Brussels so as to get the possible results for Britain; —and then to make you the business community aware of the opportunities, so that you can make the most of them.

It's your job, the job of business, to gear yourselves up to take the opportunities which a single market of nearly 320 million people will offer.

Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers—visible or invisible—giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the world's wealthiest and most prosperous people.


Margaret Thatcher, Lancaster House Speech, April 1988

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not, "stark and unimaginative"
but, "creative as well as practical"

- Theresa May, on forming a new UK-EU trade relationship


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"The weakening growth of global trade; the loss of popular support for the forces of liberalism and free trade that is driving moves towards protectionism; the threat of climate change depleting and degrading the planet we leave for future generations; and most recently, the outrageous proliferation of nuclear weapons by North Korea with a threat to use them."

https://www.gov.uk/government/speeches/pms-florence-speech-a-new-era-of-cooperation-and-partnership-between-the-uk-and-the-eu
You've neglected making a point, May
What about those things?


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Open consultation
Accountable care models contract: proposed changes to regulations

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"Their decision to leave the institution of the European Union was an expression of that desire - a statement about how they want their democracy to work.
They want more direct control of decisions that affect their daily lives; and that means those decisions being made in Britain by people directly accountable to them."
you've really got some hell of a lot of nerve, lady

and the best way to do that is to keep perpetual Tory government, making perpetually strong stable secret laws, giving the people what they want when they want it whether or not it's the will of the people, it's a creative democracy, forever and ever, amen


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https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... -e-academy

The schools adjudicator's admission objection decision about St Peter's Droitwich Church of England Academy.


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Accountable care models contract: proposed changes to regulations

https://www.gov.uk/government/consultat ... egulations

Ridding care homes of all that red tape
This is something important, of course
it's Friday afternoon after the Florence fandango


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http://www.parliament.uk/business/commi ... nse-17-19/

The Work and Pensions Committee has published the Government's response to its report on the Child Maintenance Service  with a follow up letter to the Minister expressing the Committee's "disappointment" with the response


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https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/201 ... k-accounts

Home Office wrongly denying people bank accounts in 10% of cases
Study of Theresa May’s ‘hostile environment’ measures against illegal immigrants finds high error rate


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We're seeking views on changes to the regulations on the running of an NHS standard contract (accountable care models).
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NATIONAL HEALTH SERVICE, ENGLAND

The National Health Service
(General Medical Services Contracts and Personal Medical Services Agreements)
(Amendment) Regulations 2018

Made - 2018
Laid before Parliament - 2018
Coming into force - 2018

The Secretary of State, in exercise of the powers conferred by sections 89(1) and (2)(d), 94 (1) and (3)(f) and 272(7) and (8) of the National Health Service Act 2006 (a), makes the following Regulations.

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... s_2017.pdf

Incoming! Duck & Cover!


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Home Office wrongly denying people bank accounts in 10% of cases
Study of Theresa May’s ‘hostile environment’ measures against illegal immigrants finds high error rate

That's part of the Hostile & Hateful roll-out, is it?


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So I assume THE SPEECH lived down to expectations?


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"So the British electorate made a choice."
You're not the choice the UK electorate made


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So I assume THE SPEECH lived down to expectations?

oh, honey
each line more horrifying than the last


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"In her speech in Florence, Prime Minister Theresa May has expressed a constructive spirit which is also the spirit of the European Union during this unique negotiation."

- Michel Barnier
http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_ST ... 427_en.htm
two short sentences later
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"The UK will become a third country on 30 March 2019."


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Nigel Farage, the former Ukip leader, has told Sky News that May’s announcement means the UK will not be signing any trade deals until 2022. It means Britain is not open for business, he says.




Trade deals to be open for business?

That all sounds a bit "globalist elite". I thought he'd gone full Trump protectionist these days.


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Apologies for adding to the spam Guardian links that fill this board, and I am sure most have seen, but this relates to what we were talking about this week

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... ing-policy


is there a word that means deriving pleasure from being pointlessly unpleasant?

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Nigel Farage, the former Ukip leader, has told Sky News that May’s announcement means the UK will not be signing any trade deals until 2022. It means Britain is not open for business, he says.


Trade deals to be open for business?

That all sounds a bit "globalist elite". I thought he'd gone full Trump protectionist these days.

The carbon footprints of those two global elite yokels are greater than the total of some African nations' fossil fuel use.


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Theresa May’s Florence Speech On Brexit Prompts Questions Why We’re Leaving In The First Place
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The Prime Minister also talked about forming a new partnership with the EU “that can stand strongly together in the world” and said she wants the UK to be the “strongest friend and partner” in the future.

However, many people have pointed out that the UK and the EU did used to be close partners. They were, if you will, in a union.

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How long is she going to keep saying that we want everything the EU offers us at present - but still want to leave? #Florencespeech

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In fairness being pointlessly unpleasant contra evidential (that everybody can see)and hypocritical all at the same time is a skill of sorts.Seems to go through these phases.


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PM speech was positive, optimistic & dynamic - and rightly disposes of the Norway option! Forwards!
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Time for a game of inane-pairs-of-adjectives-to-describe-brexit bingo.

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The lack of clangers for far too long is scandalous.


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#FlorenceandtheMaychine
However, the 5,000 word speech, in which positive phrases were repeated ad nauseam, was mocked on social media as Britons said it was all talk and no substance.
https://www.rt.com/uk/404248-theresa-ma ... ne-brexit/

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That registering of EU nationals who aren't also UK citizens
How's that going to work?
I was educated in a nation providing everyone with ID, not like the UK at all, we showed ID all the time
What's to prevent anyone in the UK telling authorities asking for ID they're not required to have ID?


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It's been noted that the grassroots (cough) organisation parents and teachers for Excellence has managed to secure Justine Greening for the keynote speech at a one day backslapping...er...seminar.

https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/what-mak ... 6395519980

And how on earth does Claire Fox keep getting invited to these - she's not an academic, educator or teacher.

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being pointlessly unpleasant


It's obviously the day for it as I've seen a few examples elsewhere from our onlookers. Why do they bother?

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If you missed late link.Latest polls in NZ had the National Party with a few points lead.Many people have already voted;by my reckoning the polls will close tomorrow morning at 8am,with the result not that long afterwards(famous last words)


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Head of G4S detention centre quits after abuse allegations

The head of a G4S-run immigration removal centre, which was the subject of an undercover BBC Panorama investigation over allegations of bullying and abuse, has resigned with immediate effect.

Ben Saunders, the director of Brook House immigration removal centre (IRC) near Gatwick airport, was placed on administrative leave earlier this month. (Guardian)


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How are things? (Please feel free to ignore this if you wish.)


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