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Re: Friday 22nd September 2017

Posted: Fri 22 Sep, 2017 3:20 pm
by citizenJA
PorFavor wrote:If I hear the word "creatively" one more time . . .

Michel Barnier must have the song "There's a Hole in my Bucket" running through his head. I know I have. Isn't this more or less where we came in (or went out)?
We wrote of this together last night
Barnier is going to speak fifteen minutes after May's thing is over
He knew Tory government have gone precisely nowhere

Re: Friday 22nd September 2017

Posted: Fri 22 Sep, 2017 3:21 pm
by HindleA
#Prof.David Andress

Fuck you, we're special. Spanish Armada, Clive of India, Winston Churchill. Jumpers for goalposts....

Jesus. Fucking. Christ



A view.

Re: Friday 22nd September 2017

Posted: Fri 22 Sep, 2017 3:22 pm
by citizenJA
adam wrote:they're furious with her below the line over at the mail. 'That's what happens when you put a remainer in charge - traitor - giving away billions - not good enough - sold britain out
Interesting

Re: Friday 22nd September 2017

Posted: Fri 22 Sep, 2017 3:24 pm
by citizenJA
HindleA wrote:---
Jumpers for goalposts....
:lol:

Re: Friday 22nd September 2017

Posted: Fri 22 Sep, 2017 3:34 pm
by PorFavor
The pound is down against the euro and the dollar as the Prime Minister lays out her Brexit position in a crucial speech in Florence (Business Live, Guardian)
https://www.theguardian.com/business/li ... iness-live

Re: Friday 22nd September 2017

Posted: Fri 22 Sep, 2017 3:38 pm
by gilsey
adam wrote:they're furious with her below the line over at the mail. 'That's what happens when you put a remainer in charge - traitor - giving away billions - not good enough - sold britain out
You're going there so we don't have to? Hope you've got your wellies on.

Re: Friday 22nd September 2017

Posted: Fri 22 Sep, 2017 3:39 pm
by citizenJA
"The new Tory MP Kirstene Hair has been mocked today for admitting that she could not decide how to vote in the EU referendum..."
I missed that
she's disclosed she didn't vote in the 2016 EU referendum

Re: Friday 22nd September 2017

Posted: Fri 22 Sep, 2017 3:47 pm
by adam
Nigel Farage, the former Ukip leader, has told Sky News that May’s announcement means the UK will not be signing any trade deals until 2022. It means Britain is not open for business, he says.
Wasn't the slogan for the creation of the single market in 1992 'Europe will be open for business'?
How we meet the challenge of the Single Market will be a major factor, possibly the major factor, in our competitive position in European and world markets into the twenty-first century. Getting it right needs a partnership between government and business.
The task of government is two-fold: —to negotiate in Brussels so as to get the possible results for Britain; —and then to make you the business community aware of the opportunities, so that you can make the most of them.

It's your job, the job of business, to gear yourselves up to take the opportunities which a single market of nearly 320 million people will offer.

Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers—visible or invisible—giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the world's wealthiest and most prosperous people.
Margaret Thatcher, Lancaster House Speech, April 1988

Re: Friday 22nd September 2017

Posted: Fri 22 Sep, 2017 3:55 pm
by citizenJA
not, "stark and unimaginative"
but, "creative as well as practical"

- Theresa May, on forming a new UK-EU trade relationship

Re: Friday 22nd September 2017

Posted: Fri 22 Sep, 2017 3:59 pm
by citizenJA
"The weakening growth of global trade; the loss of popular support for the forces of liberalism and free trade that is driving moves towards protectionism; the threat of climate change depleting and degrading the planet we leave for future generations; and most recently, the outrageous proliferation of nuclear weapons by North Korea with a threat to use them."

https://www.gov.uk/government/speeches/ ... and-the-eu
You've neglected making a point, May
What about those things?

Re: Friday 22nd September 2017

Posted: Fri 22 Sep, 2017 4:05 pm
by HindleA
Open consultation
Accountable care models contract: proposed changes to regulations

https://www.gov.uk/government/consultat ... egulations" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Friday 22nd September 2017

Posted: Fri 22 Sep, 2017 4:06 pm
by citizenJA
"Their decision to leave the institution of the European Union was an expression of that desire - a statement about how they want their democracy to work.
They want more direct control of decisions that affect their daily lives; and that means those decisions being made in Britain by people directly accountable to them."
you've really got some hell of a lot of nerve, lady

and the best way to do that is to keep perpetual Tory government, making perpetually strong stable secret laws, giving the people what they want when they want it whether or not it's the will of the people, it's a creative democracy, forever and ever, amen

Re: Friday 22nd September 2017

Posted: Fri 22 Sep, 2017 4:06 pm
by HindleA
https://www.gov.uk/government/publicati ... -e-academy" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The schools adjudicator's admission objection decision about St Peter's Droitwich Church of England Academy.

Re: Friday 22nd September 2017

Posted: Fri 22 Sep, 2017 4:07 pm
by citizenJA
HindleA wrote:Open consultation
Accountable care models contract: proposed changes to regulations

https://www.gov.uk/government/consultat ... egulations" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Ridding care homes of all that red tape
This is something important, of course
it's Friday afternoon after the Florence fandango

Re: Friday 22nd September 2017

Posted: Fri 22 Sep, 2017 4:09 pm
by HindleA
http://www.parliament.uk/business/commi ... nse-17-19/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The Work and Pensions Committee has published the Government's response to its report on the Child Maintenance Service  with a follow up letter to the Minister expressing the Committee's "disappointment" with the response

Re: Friday 22nd September 2017

Posted: Fri 22 Sep, 2017 4:09 pm
by HindleA
Firenze

Re: Friday 22nd September 2017

Posted: Fri 22 Sep, 2017 4:16 pm
by HindleA
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/201 ... k-accounts" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Home Office wrongly denying people bank accounts in 10% of cases
Study of Theresa May’s ‘hostile environment’ measures against illegal immigrants finds high error rate

Re: Friday 22nd September 2017

Posted: Fri 22 Sep, 2017 4:25 pm
by citizenJA
We're seeking views on changes to the regulations on the running of an NHS standard contract (accountable care models).
NATIONAL HEALTH SERVICE, ENGLAND

The National Health Service
(General Medical Services Contracts and Personal Medical Services Agreements)
(Amendment) Regulations 2018

Made - 2018
Laid before Parliament - 2018
Coming into force - 2018

The Secretary of State, in exercise of the powers conferred by sections 89(1) and (2)(d), 94 (1) and (3)(f) and 272(7) and (8) of the National Health Service Act 2006 (a), makes the following Regulations.

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/s ... s_2017.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Incoming! Duck & Cover!

Re: Friday 22nd September 2017

Posted: Fri 22 Sep, 2017 4:26 pm
by citizenJA
HindleA wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/201 ... k-accounts

Home Office wrongly denying people bank accounts in 10% of cases
Study of Theresa May’s ‘hostile environment’ measures against illegal immigrants finds high error rate
That's part of the Hostile & Hateful roll-out, is it?

Re: Friday 22nd September 2017

Posted: Fri 22 Sep, 2017 4:27 pm
by citizenJA
HindleA wrote:Firenze
Lovely shoes

Re: Friday 22nd September 2017

Posted: Fri 22 Sep, 2017 4:32 pm
by AnatolyKasparov
So I assume THE SPEECH lived down to expectations?

Re: Friday 22nd September 2017

Posted: Fri 22 Sep, 2017 4:35 pm
by citizenJA
"So the British electorate made a choice."
You're not the choice the UK electorate made

Re: Friday 22nd September 2017

Posted: Fri 22 Sep, 2017 4:37 pm
by citizenJA
AnatolyKasparov wrote:So I assume THE SPEECH lived down to expectations?
oh, honey
each line more horrifying than the last

Re: Friday 22nd September 2017

Posted: Fri 22 Sep, 2017 4:41 pm
by citizenJA
creative democracy

Re: Friday 22nd September 2017

Posted: Fri 22 Sep, 2017 4:47 pm
by citizenJA
"In her speech in Florence, Prime Minister Theresa May has expressed a constructive spirit which is also the spirit of the European Union during this unique negotiation."

- Michel Barnier
http://europa.eu/rapid/press-release_ST ... 427_en.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
two short sentences later
"The UK will become a third country on 30 March 2019."

Re: Friday 22nd September 2017

Posted: Fri 22 Sep, 2017 4:52 pm
by Tubby Isaacs
adam wrote:
Nigel Farage, the former Ukip leader, has told Sky News that May’s announcement means the UK will not be signing any trade deals until 2022. It means Britain is not open for business, he says.
Trade deals to be open for business?

That all sounds a bit "globalist elite". I thought he'd gone full Trump protectionist these days.

Re: Friday 22nd September 2017

Posted: Fri 22 Sep, 2017 5:19 pm
by tinyclanger2
SpinningHugo wrote:Apologies for adding to the spam Guardian links that fill this board, and I am sure most have seen, but this relates to what we were talking about this week

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... ing-policy" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
is there a word that means deriving pleasure from being pointlessly unpleasant?

Re: Friday 22nd September 2017

Posted: Fri 22 Sep, 2017 5:20 pm
by citizenJA
Tubby Isaacs wrote:
adam wrote:
Nigel Farage, the former Ukip leader, has told Sky News that May’s announcement means the UK will not be signing any trade deals until 2022. It means Britain is not open for business, he says.
Trade deals to be open for business?

That all sounds a bit "globalist elite". I thought he'd gone full Trump protectionist these days.
The carbon footprints of those two global elite yokels are greater than the total of some African nations' fossil fuel use.

Re: Friday 22nd September 2017

Posted: Fri 22 Sep, 2017 5:28 pm
by tinyclanger2
Theresa May’s Florence Speech On Brexit Prompts Questions Why We’re Leaving In The First Place
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/t ... c57ff199ee" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Friday 22nd September 2017

Posted: Fri 22 Sep, 2017 5:29 pm
by tinyclanger2
The Prime Minister also talked about forming a new partnership with the EU “that can stand strongly together in the world” and said she wants the UK to be the “strongest friend and partner” in the future.

However, many people have pointed out that the UK and the EU did used to be close partners. They were, if you will, in a union.

Re: Friday 22nd September 2017

Posted: Fri 22 Sep, 2017 5:30 pm
by tinyclanger2
Robert Barr OBE @CllrBobBarr
How long is she going to keep saying that we want everything the EU offers us at present - but still want to leave? #Florencespeech

Re: Friday 22nd September 2017

Posted: Fri 22 Sep, 2017 5:36 pm
by HindleA
In fairness being pointlessly unpleasant contra evidential (that everybody can see)and hypocritical all at the same time is a skill of sorts.Seems to go through these phases.

Re: Friday 22nd September 2017

Posted: Fri 22 Sep, 2017 5:42 pm
by tinyclanger2
Boris Johnson ✔ @BorisJohnson
PM speech was positive, optimistic & dynamic - and rightly disposes of the Norway option! Forwards!
:lol: :lol: :lol:

Time for a game of inane-pairs-of-adjectives-to-describe-brexit bingo.

Re: Friday 22nd September 2017

Posted: Fri 22 Sep, 2017 5:43 pm
by HindleA
The lack of clangers for far too long is scandalous.

Re: Friday 22nd September 2017

Posted: Fri 22 Sep, 2017 5:45 pm
by tinyclanger2
#FlorenceandtheMaychine
However, the 5,000 word speech, in which positive phrases were repeated ad nauseam, was mocked on social media as Britons said it was all talk and no substance.
https://www.rt.com/uk/404248-theresa-ma ... ne-brexit/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Friday 22nd September 2017

Posted: Fri 22 Sep, 2017 5:50 pm
by tinyclanger2
technical hitch

Re: Friday 22nd September 2017

Posted: Fri 22 Sep, 2017 6:03 pm
by HindleA
Contract renewal

Re: Friday 22nd September 2017

Posted: Fri 22 Sep, 2017 6:05 pm
by citizenJA
That registering of EU nationals who aren't also UK citizens
How's that going to work?
I was educated in a nation providing everyone with ID, not like the UK at all, we showed ID all the time
What's to prevent anyone in the UK telling authorities asking for ID they're not required to have ID?

Re: Friday 22nd September 2017

Posted: Fri 22 Sep, 2017 6:05 pm
by citizenJA
disco lemonade

Re: Friday 22nd September 2017

Posted: Fri 22 Sep, 2017 6:13 pm
by RogerOThornhill
It's been noted that the grassroots (cough) organisation parents and teachers for Excellence has managed to secure Justine Greening for the keynote speech at a one day backslapping...er...seminar.

https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/what-mak ... 6395519980" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

And how on earth does Claire Fox keep getting invited to these - she's not an academic, educator or teacher.

Re: Friday 22nd September 2017

Posted: Fri 22 Sep, 2017 6:20 pm
by RogerOThornhill
HindleA wrote:being pointlessly unpleasant
It's obviously the day for it as I've seen a few examples elsewhere from our onlookers. Why do they bother?

Re: Friday 22nd September 2017

Posted: Fri 22 Sep, 2017 6:52 pm
by HindleA
If you missed late link.Latest polls in NZ had the National Party with a few points lead.Many people have already voted;by my reckoning the polls will close tomorrow morning at 8am,with the result not that long afterwards(famous last words)

Re: Friday 22nd September 2017

Posted: Fri 22 Sep, 2017 6:58 pm
by HindleA
Broaden smile,think dickheads and lengthen stride.

Re: Friday 22nd September 2017

Posted: Fri 22 Sep, 2017 7:07 pm
by PorFavor
Head of G4S detention centre quits after abuse allegations

The head of a G4S-run immigration removal centre, which was the subject of an undercover BBC Panorama investigation over allegations of bullying and abuse, has resigned with immediate effect.

Ben Saunders, the director of Brook House immigration removal centre (IRC) near Gatwick airport, was placed on administrative leave earlier this month. (Guardian)
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/201 ... llegations

Re: Friday 22nd September 2017

Posted: Fri 22 Sep, 2017 7:09 pm
by HindleA
ooooo

Re: Friday 22nd September 2017

Posted: Fri 22 Sep, 2017 7:09 pm
by HindleA
o

Re: Friday 22nd September 2017

Posted: Fri 22 Sep, 2017 7:16 pm
by PorFavor
And one for luck -
o

Re: Friday 22nd September 2017

Posted: Fri 22 Sep, 2017 7:30 pm
by PorFavor
@RogerOThornhill

How are things? (Please feel free to ignore this if you wish.)

Re: Friday 22nd September 2017

Posted: Fri 22 Sep, 2017 7:33 pm
by HindleA
"So apart from losing the car and destroying the kitchen anything else I should know?"

Re: Friday 22nd September 2017

Posted: Fri 22 Sep, 2017 7:37 pm
by HindleA
I don't think I was ever truly forgiven for turning cream knickers slightly pink or believed I didn't see them go in.




PTOO