Saturday 23rd & Sunday 24th September 2017

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 23 Sep, 2017 3:16 am

Morning

Link to Radio New Zealand National Election Coverage for those interested

http://www.radionz.co.nz/audio/live/national" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 23 Sep, 2017 3:27 am

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-41365084" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Two million couples missing out on tax break, says HMRC

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 23 Sep, 2017 3:37 am

That grasping entitlement culture again.The "extraordinary"increase in DLA claims,claim was deceitful bollox based on such lack of take up,normal bedding in period and purposeful filling of gaps.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sat 23 Sep, 2017 7:27 am

The Will of Some of the People part 2.

http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/rel/pop-estim ... hart-5.xls" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

--> approx 800,000 UK 16-year olds and 800,000 17-year olds = 1.6 million of which 75% (https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... main-in-eu" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;)
= 1.2 million

Leave the European Union 17.4 million
Remain a member of the European Union 16.1 million

UK expats with no vote in referendum = 3 million
TOTAL = 37.8 million
Leave = 46.0 percent
And that's before the alleged swing (48% remain to 52% remain).

Suck it up remoaners.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sat 23 Sep, 2017 8:28 am

Moody's agency said it is "no longer confident that the UK government will be able to secure a replacement free trade agreement with the EU which substantially mitigates the negative economic impact of Brexit"
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/busin ... 62532.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sat 23 Sep, 2017 8:30 am

http://ukandeu.ac.uk/what-does-brexit-mean-for-women/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Equality between women and men is one of the EU’s founding values – the principle of equal pay is included in the 1957 Treaty of Rome. We have no equivalent in the UK. By leaving the EU we are trusting the UK government to maintain its commitment to equality; the extent of this commitment is in turn dependent on the government of the day and the degree to which this is a priority for them. Equality is therefore vulnerable to the political climate, and to some extent, national sentiment at any one time.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Sat 23 Sep, 2017 8:52 am

Good morfternoon.

Post by **adam** » Sat 23 Sep, 2017 9:56 am

Eldest off to university today *gulp*

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Sat 23 Sep, 2017 10:01 am

Without wishing to steal HindleA's thunder (re the New Zealand election), may I offer what I think is the first Guardian link of the day -

New Zealand election 2017: National takes early lead as Jacinda Ardern and Bill English fight for win – live

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/ ... glish-live

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 23 Sep, 2017 10:05 am

You were usurped by that rogue tc2 hiding a link in text.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 23 Sep, 2017 10:13 am

@Adam hopefully they go to the correct one.I got confused by my accommodation/halls being nearer the "wrong one"

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 23 Sep, 2017 10:18 am

Sometimes still do such things with Premier Inns.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sat 23 Sep, 2017 10:18 am

HindleA wrote:You were usurped by that rogue tc2 hiding a link in text.

Not only that but it was over a year old.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sat 23 Sep, 2017 10:19 am

Monkey 47

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Sat 23 Sep, 2017 10:24 am

tinyclanger2 wrote:
HindleA wrote:You were usurped by that rogue tc2 hiding a link in text.
Not only that but it was over a year old.

You're safe then - I think there's a statute of limitations.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 23 Sep, 2017 10:24 am

Had to look that up,being a teatotaller I was unaware but I know Gordon has got some gin.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 23 Sep, 2017 10:27 am

When younger I thought it was statue;when I say younger I am literally correct(just)

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 23 Sep, 2017 10:28 am

Armed gorillas was another one.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sat 23 Sep, 2017 10:29 am

https://www.neweurope.eu/article/eu-pav ... l-economy/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
EU paves path towards fair taxation of the digital economy
It’s also a question of sustainability of our tax revenues as traditional tax sources come under strain. Not least, it’s about maintaining the integrity of the Single Market and avoiding fragmentation by finding common solutions to global challenges.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 23 Sep, 2017 10:32 am

Roger out shopping,PF lining gin bottles up in preparation,tc2 seething etc just your average Saturday morning.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 23 Sep, 2017 10:35 am

I wonder if it is better/worse/broadly the same as a parent if you have experienced University first hand.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Sat 23 Sep, 2017 10:39 am

HindleA wrote:Roger out shopping,PF lining gin bottles up in preparation,tc2 seething etc just your average Saturday morning.

Saturday is target practice day . . .

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 23 Sep, 2017 10:44 am

Some musical accompaniment

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HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 23 Sep, 2017 10:53 am

Roger might be busy with other things,of course.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 23 Sep, 2017 10:58 am

https://mainlymacro.blogspot.co.uk/2017 ... rexit.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The real obstacle for the Brexit negotiations

Wren-Lewis

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Sat 23 Sep, 2017 11:15 am

Looking like National might be clinging on to office, then. Bah.

tinybgoat · Post by **tinybgoat** » Sat 23 Sep, 2017 11:42 am

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/the ... 59971.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
"This is the real reason Boris Johnson came close to resigning last week" - John Rentoul
(the writer, not the reason)
odd.
(the article, not the writer. Probably)

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 23 Sep, 2017 11:55 am

http://www.24housing.co.uk/news/vast-ma ... MU.twitter" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Social housing providers say welfare policy ‘undermines efforts to tackle homelessness’

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 23 Sep, 2017 12:03 pm

https://www.theguardian.com/cities/2017 ... are_btn_tw" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

'I feel like a second-class citizen': readers on navigating cities with a disability
We asked readers with a disability to share their experiences – good and bad. Their responses show the many ways people can be shut out of their communities

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Sat 23 Sep, 2017 12:26 pm

Morning all.

I would imagine that most opinion round here of Harris isn't that favourable anyway...

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 23 Sep, 2017 12:29 pm

It was a TfL decision,not a "Labour",one.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 23 Sep, 2017 12:31 pm

And I know the square root of ##ck all about transport in London.

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Sat 23 Sep, 2017 12:31 pm

Tom Harris is almost a personification of why Scottish Labour got virtually wiped out two years ago.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sat 23 Sep, 2017 12:36 pm

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-brita ... SKCN1BY0GL" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
British actor Colin Firth gets Italian citizenship after Brexit vote

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 23 Sep, 2017 12:37 pm

"The voters have given New Zealand First a role in the new government, English says.

He repeats the “strong and stable” line."

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sat 23 Sep, 2017 12:40 pm

ROME (Reuters) - British actor Colin Firth, who has often played the role of a quintessential Englishman in his many films, has become an Italian citizen, Italy’s Interior Ministry said.

Not sure why but I find this vaguely amusing.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 23 Sep, 2017 12:51 pm

Howsillyofme 1 tinyclanger 2

Willow always wins.

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Sat 23 Sep, 2017 12:57 pm

oh dear, that "appealing to country's leaders rather than Brussels" doesn't seem to have gone that well...

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The @SZ reports Number 10 invited "European politicians of rank" to May's Florence speech but they all declined.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 23 Sep, 2017 1:09 pm

"Could Peters(NZ First leader who has lost his seat)side with Labour over National? They have some strong ideological points of commonality and Peters has some sworn enemies in the National camp, including finance minister Steven Joyce.

This year Peters has also slowly turned against Bill English, calling for his resignation over the Todd Barclay affair, when a government MP resigned amid claims he made illegal tape recordings of a former staff member.

With 72-year-old Peters looking at his last few years in politics he too, might be ready for change. The upset of Labour taking over because of his choice would certainly appeal to his sense of theatre.

Labour’s hope for change just about lives on – but now it all hangs on a cantankerous politician who has often said he’d rather be fishing."

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 23 Sep, 2017 1:18 pm

(Labour also need Greens and NZ First)

Post by **adam** » Sat 23 Sep, 2017 1:20 pm

HindleA wrote:I wonder if it is better/worse/broadly the same as a parent if you have experienced University first hand.

When I went, 30 years ago next week, my sister was still in the sixth form and my mum was doing an MA. My dad claimed to be the only pensioner in the country supporting three full time students.

Edit - my my...

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Sat 23 Sep, 2017 1:33 pm

adam wrote:
HindleA wrote:I wonder if it is better/worse/broadly the same as a parent if you have experienced University first hand.
When I went, 30 years ago next week, my sister was still in the sixth form and my mum was doing an MA. My dad claimed to be the only pensioner in the country supporting three full time students.

Edit - my my...

I thought you were being "creative" . . .

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 23 Sep, 2017 1:37 pm

Thoought.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Sat 23 Sep, 2017 1:44 pm

RogerOThornhill wrote:oh dear, that "appealing to country's leaders rather than Brussels" doesn't seem to have gone that well...

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Jeremy Cliffe Retweeted SZ Top-News
The @SZ reports Number 10 invited "European politicians of rank" to May's Florence speech but they all declined.

It was all a bit of a non-event, wasn't it? Nothing has changed, as they say - other than a magnanimous undertaking to continue to pay for another two years' EU membership because we are continuing to be members for another two years.

howsillyofme1 · Post by **howsillyofme1** » Sat 23 Sep, 2017 1:49 pm

HindleA wrote:Howsillyofme 1 tinyclanger 2

Willow always wins.

Afternoon

What am I losing at now? Not that it bothers me though as I am a Wolves supporter and am used to wearing defeat well.

So if I am clear on yesterday's speech - May has repeated her waffle on the substance apart from indicating her vision is for the post transition relationship looks pretty 'hard' and is copying Labour's policy for the transition (which she could have done months ago).....thus managing to upset both the Remain and Leave wings of her party at the same time as not doing anything to help the negotiations? That takes some skill

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sat 23 Sep, 2017 1:52 pm

HSOM1
Ditto vis a vis ManU in this day and age.
TC2

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 23 Sep, 2017 1:53 pm

Just playing with user names.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 23 Sep, 2017 1:59 pm

Have you read the Portes piece and May's response to the Italian reporter?.

PTO after two.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Sat 23 Sep, 2017 2:04 pm

HindleA wrote:Have you read the Portes piece and May's response to the Italian reporter?.

No. But if you tell me where to find it, I shall.

(Even if you weren't talking to me - I'm not proud.)

howsillyofme1 · Post by **howsillyofme1** » Sat 23 Sep, 2017 2:05 pm

tinyclanger2 wrote:HSOM1
Ditto vis a vis ManU in this day and age.
TC2

ahhhh.......proven thick once again!

Thanks tc

(I am going to change my name to hsom905 now!)