Saturday 23rd & Sunday 24th September 2017

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 23 Sep, 2017 2:05 pm

Lenny learning Italian.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 23 Sep, 2017 2:07 pm

@HSOM -on a more sensible wavelength,perhaps.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 23 Sep, 2017 2:12 pm

It was to Howsillyme because I linked and quoted from last night but here it is again.

https://notthetreasuryview.blogspot.co. ... -keep.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Sat 23 Sep, 2017 2:16 pm

The Parents and teachers for Excellence "conference" (well, half a day) is going on and this bit...

Summer Turner‏
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Interesting that this teacher now works for Inspiration trust whose founder said this:

Too often the education debate in this country has been conducted by elites in Westminster and Whitehall.

Yes, that really is Dame Rachel De Souza who works for a trust whose founder was a non-executive director at the DfE...

And as I pointed out yesterday, Justine Greening is speaking later - damn those Westminster elites in their bubble!

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Sat 23 Sep, 2017 2:18 pm

@HindleA and howsillyofme1

Thank you.

howsillyofme1 · Post by **howsillyofme1** » Sat 23 Sep, 2017 2:35 pm

HindleA wrote:It was to Howsillyme because I linked and quoted from last night but here it is again.

https://notthetreasuryview.blogspot.co. ... -keep.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I saw that comment

I just assumed that she was being inept and had forgotten what her policy actually was.....or lying. She is a Tory after all so either could be applicable

Pity that Barnier is quite clever....not that he needs to be though to be honest

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Sat 23 Sep, 2017 2:36 pm

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.@JustineGreening discusses how important teachers are to lifting up our whole education system. #PTE17

Amazing - I bet no-one's thought of that before!

No, from what I've seen so far it hasn't been any better than this...

howsillyofme1 · Post by **howsillyofme1** » Sat 23 Sep, 2017 2:37 pm

PorFavor wrote:@HindleA and howsillyofme1

Thank you.

Your thanks are gratefully received....even though I have no idea what I have done to deserve them apart from managing to be polite for two consecutive posts (couldn't manage three as I was rude about the PM in my last one)

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 23 Sep, 2017 2:39 pm

(Obviously started on the gin and trying to get a threesome)

55DegreesNorth · Post by **55DegreesNorth** » Sat 23 Sep, 2017 3:07 pm

HindleA wrote:Armed gorillas was another one.

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HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 23 Sep, 2017 3:27 pm

http://www.publicsectorexecutive.com/Pu ... rite=false#" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Councils falling short of preventive care obligations

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Sat 23 Sep, 2017 4:32 pm

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A blast from @fox_claire saying "stop whinging about the lack of cash" #PTE17

That's the well-known expert on schools and school finances talking there...

tinybgoat · Post by **tinybgoat** » Sat 23 Sep, 2017 4:46 pm

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So, has all the posturing about the Brexit bill has been in vain?
The Prime Minister’s Florence speech was a horrible, corpse-like stumble into the waiting arms of Michel Barnier. He won’t be giving her a helping hand, though; he’ll be reaching into her pocket to grab her purse and then giving her a bit of a shove to help her on her fall.

The Brexiteers have a huge advantage: the way Article 50 works means that, if the Government does not give them what they (and the majority of the country’s voters) want, then they can impose a hard Brexit by bringing it down.

Not entirely happy then.

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Sat 23 Sep, 2017 6:04 pm

Suddenly gone quiet in here.......

Post by **adam** » Sat 23 Sep, 2017 6:09 pm

AnatolyKasparov wrote:Suddenly gone quiet in here.......

It's all that end of the world business.

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Note to those which this might present a Problem For - I have x'd out the beginning of the address because I don't want to put a live link to the express. You have to copy and paste the link and then change the xx to tt. Apologies if this is bleedin' obvious.

Tubby Isaacs · Post by **Tubby Isaacs** » Sat 23 Sep, 2017 6:27 pm

RogerOThornhill wrote:
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A blast from @fox_claire saying "stop whinging about the lack of cash" #PTE17
That's the well-known expert on schools and school finances talking there...

Yeah. It's not like staff are walking out over this or anything.

Oh hang on.

Tubby Isaacs · Post by **Tubby Isaacs** » Sat 23 Sep, 2017 6:28 pm

howsillyofme1 wrote:
HindleA wrote:It was to Howsillyme because I linked and quoted from last night but here it is again.

https://notthetreasuryview.blogspot.co. ... -keep.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I saw that comment

I just assumed that she was being inept and had forgotten what her policy actually was.....or lying. She is a Tory after all so either could be applicable

Pity that Barnier is quite clever....not that he needs to be though to be honest

Yeah, I think she forgot the policy too. I don't know why she's being taken seriously.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Sat 23 Sep, 2017 6:39 pm

If the UK doesn't have appropriate trade agreements and customs arrangements in place when necessary, lives and businesses are in a tough spot, isn't that the case? I'm not catastrophising for sport, I'm trying to understand. I'm unhappy with all the noises current Tory government have made thus far and wonder what they're playing at. The UK is one country, an economy its prosperity depends on being connected to other nations' economies. Other nations aren't facing catastrophic breakdown should the UK be unavailable for buying or selling.

I'm uncomfortable with the bombastic arrogance of this government. They don't care if people don't have enough to eat.

Willow904 · Post by **Willow904** » Sat 23 Sep, 2017 6:40 pm

Tubby Isaacs wrote:
howsillyofme1 wrote:
HindleA wrote:It was to Howsillyme because I linked and quoted from last night but here it is again.

https://notthetreasuryview.blogspot.co. ... -keep.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I saw that comment

I just assumed that she was being inept and had forgotten what her policy actually was.....or lying. She is a Tory after all so either could be applicable

Pity that Barnier is quite clever....not that he needs to be though to be honest
Yeah, I think she forgot the policy too. I don't know why she's being taken seriously.

If we're talking about EU nationals already here, then we're talking about a finite number of people - not exactly a big deal in the grander scheme of things to get things moving. She's already done the obvious of accepting the four freedoms for the transition. It's possible she's doing the obvious with this, too.

howsillyofme1 · Post by **howsillyofme1** » Sat 23 Sep, 2017 7:13 pm

If we're talking about EU nationals already here, then we're talking about a finite number of people - not exactly a big deal in the grander scheme of things to get things moving. She's already done the obvious of accepting the four freedoms for the transition. It's possible she's doing the obvious with this, too

Not prepared to give her any benefit of the doubt on this based on the appalling incompetence she has shown in all aspects of Brexit........

She has shown she cannot deal with unscripted and uncontrolled exchanges and I am on Tubby's page that she has just not understood the implications of what she said

Even if you are right are you sure those who will be frothing at this will accept that EU UK residents will have more rights that UK citizen residents?

I am not so convinced she has accepted the four freedoms either for the transition - it appears she has but with the ineptness of the Tories until Barnier has confirmed it has been agreed in the negotiations then I will refrain from heaping praise on her

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Sat 23 Sep, 2017 7:19 pm

@howsillyofme1
I don't trust her either for the reasons you've listed

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 23 Sep, 2017 7:23 pm

Not just a case,like Cameron repeatedly did,prior to,through process and after enaction of maintaining a line of "the disabled are exempt" when they weren't when faced with the question/evidence contrary to regarding the bedroom tax,in robotic fashion.It was clear it was a lie and easilly seen to be absolute bollox on two seconds investigation but it "stuck" as a phrase in the minds of far too many?As an example.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 23 Sep, 2017 7:38 pm

https://www.theguardian.com/books/2017/ ... sen-review" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

So They Call You Pisher! by Michael Rosen review – Communism, Clive James and attitude.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 23 Sep, 2017 7:39 pm

Lenny's hygiene much improved,even cleans up after himself.

Willow904 · Post by **Willow904** » Sat 23 Sep, 2017 8:00 pm

howsillyofme1 wrote:
If we're talking about EU nationals already here, then we're talking about a finite number of people - not exactly a big deal in the grander scheme of things to get things moving. She's already done the obvious of accepting the four freedoms for the transition. It's possible she's doing the obvious with this, too

Not prepared to give her any benefit of the doubt on this based on the appalling incompetence she has shown in all aspects of Brexit........

She has shown she cannot deal with unscripted and uncontrolled exchanges and I am on Tubby's page that she has just not understood the implications of what she said

Even if you are right are you sure those who will be frothing at this will accept that EU UK residents will have more rights that UK citizen residents?

I am not so convinced she has accepted the four freedoms either for the transition - it appears she has but with the ineptness of the Tories until Barnier has confirmed it has been agreed in the negotiations then I will refrain from heaping praise on her

It's hardly "heaping praise" to suggest when push comes to shove it's possible she's being forced to bend to the EU's will. Rather the opposite, actually.

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Sat 23 Sep, 2017 8:00 pm

RogerOThornhill wrote:The Parents and teachers for Excellence "conference" (well, half a day) is going on and this bit...

Summer Turner‏
@ragazza_inglese
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Aims: @PTE_Campaign @lehain
Celebrate not shame, build broad coalition, polite Twitter debate &break the Westminster bubble #PTE17
Interesting that this teacher now works for Inspiration trust whose founder said this:

Too often the education debate in this country has been conducted by elites in Westminster and Whitehall.
Yes, that really is Dame Rachel De Souza who works for a trust whose founder was a non-executive director at the DfE...

And as I pointed out yesterday, Justine Greening is speaking later - damn those Westminster elites in their bubble!

It's just been pointed out that this conference with all of its talk about getting away from the Westminster bubble actually took place...in Westminster.

You really couldn't make this stuff up...

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 23 Sep, 2017 8:12 pm

Not sure.I didn't view it as on the hoof response,she must have known it would come up/anticipated.The brief question/answer session looked a bit contrived to me.Not saying she knew the questions beforehand but would have rehearsed them if x was asked etc.She would know the "take" from the people she invited quesions from.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 23 Sep, 2017 8:25 pm

Really "annoying",elections/votes, recently.I think I should become the acknowledged supreme being of the known and unknown Universe and sort it out.As long as tobacco and tea levels are maintained I am usually benign.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 23 Sep, 2017 8:38 pm

What was the venue called "The Bubble" ?

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 23 Sep, 2017 8:59 pm

http://www.dw.com/en/how-does-the-germa ... a-37805756" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

How does the German general election work?

http://www.dw.com/en/top-stories/german ... n/s-100649" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 23 Sep, 2017 9:36 pm

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HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 23 Sep, 2017 10:05 pm

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... rce-crisis" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

New Brexit rules ‘could lead to unskilled workforce crisis’

A weird concept of unskilled(to me,anyway)

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 23 Sep, 2017 10:06 pm

Everbody else's job is easy until you try it.

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Sat 23 Sep, 2017 10:09 pm

Well this is good news...

Growing speculation academies minister Lord Nash is preparing to quit the DfE

https://www.tes.com/news/school-news/br ... g-quit-dfe

One leading advocate of school autonomy said: "This is concerning news. John Nash is among the last of the old school of Gove-era ministerial education reformers. It is imperative that his replacement is someone equally determined and committed to the cause of academies and system autonomy."

Which basically translates as "Give us the money and then bugger off and leave us alone."

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 23 Sep, 2017 10:14 pm

Any views on possible replacement?

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 23 Sep, 2017 10:19 pm

And where are PF and CJA's good nights',slackers.Really isn't good enough.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Sat 23 Sep, 2017 10:23 pm

HindleA wrote:Everbody else's job is easy until you try it.

'unskilled work' is called that to justify paying crap wages

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Sat 23 Sep, 2017 10:23 pm

HindleA wrote:And where are PF and CJA's good nights',slackers.Really isn't good enough.

Goodnight, HindleA

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 23 Sep, 2017 10:25 pm

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-s ... s-41372373" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Anas Sarwar relinquishes shares in family firm

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 23 Sep, 2017 10:25 pm

Goodnight cja.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Sat 23 Sep, 2017 10:30 pm

Night night.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 23 Sep, 2017 10:38 pm

Night o.PF.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 23 Sep, 2017 10:54 pm

Not the IDS Easterhouse Conversion bollox again.

This example from eight years earlier

http://benefitscroungingscum.blogspot.c ... h-for.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 23 Sep, 2017 11:02 pm

Trouble is with any myth,if you combat it,it maintains credence to the extent of needing to be combatted;if you leave,it retains.

Tubby Isaacs · Post by **Tubby Isaacs** » Sat 23 Sep, 2017 11:22 pm

RogerOThornhill wrote:Well this is good news...

Growing speculation academies minister Lord Nash is preparing to quit the DfE

https://www.tes.com/news/school-news/br ... g-quit-dfe

One leading advocate of school autonomy said: "This is concerning news. John Nash is among the last of the old school of Gove-era ministerial education reformers. It is imperative that his replacement is someone equally determined and committed to the cause of academies and system autonomy."
Which basically translates as "Give us the money and then bugger off and leave us alone."

Nick Gibb might not feel too flattered. Isn't he a Gove-era "reformer"?

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Sat 23 Sep, 2017 11:38 pm

Tubby Isaacs wrote:
Nick Gibb might not feel too flattered. Isn't he a Gove-era "reformer"?

Yeah but Sam Freedman said that Gibb was always more interested in curriculum and assessment.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 23 Sep, 2017 11:57 pm

Hopefully tinyclanger2 sleeps occasionally.Speaking as a zombie dishevelled brain frazzled warning of not doing.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 23 Sep, 2017 11:58 pm

I have kips.Funny,how you think you have had a few hours when it is about twenty minutes sometimes and reverse.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sun 24 Sep, 2017 12:03 am

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HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sun 24 Sep, 2017 12:34 am