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Postcards From The Edge?
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Night night.
Night night.
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No - I've never received one from him.HindleA wrote:Postcards From The Edge?
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"Quilty"?
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Agree.SpinningHugo wrote:Tubby Isaacs wrote:There's an odd bit on pension funds maybe being compensated more favourably. How on earth does that work, differential compensation for the same thing depending on whether the government likes your ownership model?SpinningHugo wrote:Labour's proposals on PFI are here
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/bl ... b286a9aed5" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I don't really get them.
The idea seems to be to nationalise the SPVs that hold the PFI contracts. They intend to do that through a share for bonds exchange.
But if you do that at market value, the net saving is exactly zero.
The threat to do it at a lower (presumably below market) rate for foreign domiciled SPVs is particularly odd as the UK has no power to force them to exchange. It would have to be coupled with a threat of non-performance.
but, as I said, that is not a good idea. There is a big difference between a company saying "we repudiate this contract, and will pay the damages required by law" and a country saying "we repudiate this contract, and won't pay anything as required under our own contract law." If a country won't respect its own laws, why should anybody else? Yes, we have the power to do that, PFI companies lack tanks, but it would not be a great idea.
There have been PFIs bought already, in Northumberland and Herefordshire, and everybody seems happy with the result. So I assume there's some scope to do that more widely.
I think there is a major issue with the government paying anyone less than full market value. Expropriating assets is not great.
And paying different people different amounts for the same thing looks like a law suit waiting to happen.
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I still have got a receipt for plastic spoons from Gillespie Road iin London from the early '80's because it was near Highbury.I don't even support Arsenal,my brother does.
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You deleted the post that I was responding to. You're certainly quilty of that.
You deleted the post that I was responding to. You're certainly quilty of that.
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Short term memory loss,remind me of the gist.
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HindleA wrote:Short term memory loss,remind me of the gist.
Postcards, soft toys.
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Cheers.True.
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PF for a small fee,it may be arranged.
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PF you've deleted your post I was replying to.
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Doesn't matter I have forgotten what it was myself.Sounds "interesting",though.
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https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 ... ae-targets" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Hospital bosses forced to chant 'we can do this' over A&E targets
Trust leaders say they were left feeling ‘bullied and humiliated’ by the incident at a meeting to improve performance
Hospital bosses forced to chant 'we can do this' over A&E targets
Trust leaders say they were left feeling ‘bullied and humiliated’ by the incident at a meeting to improve performance
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Personal Independence Payment assessments
Personal Independence Payment assessments
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How affordable housing benefits the wider economy
Research showing direct benefits to the Treasury and the economy as a whole mean the economic case for investment in social housing has reached a critical juncture
How affordable housing benefits the wider economy
Research showing direct benefits to the Treasury and the economy as a whole mean the economic case for investment in social housing has reached a critical juncture
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Third of state schools in cash deficit
Third of state schools in cash deficit
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No, I haven't! Deleted what?HindleA wrote:PF you've deleted your post I was replying to.
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quiteephemerid wrote: Apparently the easiest way to get rid of them is to freeze them. Out.
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PF (Read on.I know you didn't.It was to set up a joke,or at least an attempt)
From "a small fee
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Hi tc2.
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He [Dennis Skinner] talked about working in the pits after the Second World War. “I worked alongside Poles, Latvians and Lithuanians, the millions of people displaced after the war. And there were never any arguments because we were all paid the same and we were all in the National Union of Mineworkers.”
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By February 1947, Horner was General Secretary of the National Union of Mineworkers again spoke out against foreign workers in the mining industry, and his party declared that Poles “should be sent home, to work out their own salvation.”
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@tinyclanger2
Thanks for that link.
Edited to add -
It illustrates something that I was struggling to articulate a while back. Except it doesn't illustrate it, since I failed to ever say it articulately enough for it to require illustration. If you follow my meaning.
And is now the time to admit that I've never been that keen on Dennis Skinner (other than to admire his sartorial elegance)?
Thanks for that link.
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It illustrates something that I was struggling to articulate a while back. Except it doesn't illustrate it, since I failed to ever say it articulately enough for it to require illustration. If you follow my meaning.
And is now the time to admit that I've never been that keen on Dennis Skinner (other than to admire his sartorial elegance)?
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The two are not mutually exclusive.
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Oh - and I do realise that it was Arthur Horner who expressed the anti-foreigner sentiments in the linked article - not Dennis Skinner.
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https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... riod-talksDavis and Barnier at odds over Brexit bill and transition period
On the first day of the fourth round of talks, Barnier said the prime minister’s €20bn (£17.6bn) offer did not mean the UK would be given a transition period or that negotiations could move on to the detail of a future trading relationship. (Guardian)
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Meant DS experience and utteration,that was all.I live there.Accounts/portrayals in the media of people and place is overwhelmingly complete bollox.In my experience.
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Night night.
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Night.PF.
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Trump's latest travel ban: what's new, who's covered, and why now?
On Sunday, the Trump administration issued its third travel ban in less than a year – and some key revisions make it more expansive than its predecessors
He'll probably end up banning himself or something.
Trump's latest travel ban: what's new, who's covered, and why now?
On Sunday, the Trump administration issued its third travel ban in less than a year – and some key revisions make it more expansive than its predecessors
He'll probably end up banning himself or something.
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My soup dragon impersonation is not as good as it was.
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Yes. The short answer is PR. Or at least a few more viable parties. We are all the victims of democratic deficit given our two/one party FPTP nonsense.Tory Brexit has become a fight to the death between small-state, low-tax, free-market fundamentalists and one-nation, politeness-and-prosperity, small-and-large-C conservatives. Labour Brexit, in this letter’s frame, is turning into a battle between market-sympathetic, social-democratic “centrists” and hard-left, anti-capitalist change-makers. All the ideological faultlines opened up by a decade of political acrimony and man-made hardship have met in this one issue, and it is the wrong issue.
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No problem - didn't think you were serious.citizenJA wrote:@tinyclanger2
Please forgive my post last night regarding your political party membership. I was attempting levity while making a distinction between Labour and Tory Brexit. I failed.
I agree with you. Stopping UK-EU nationals having freedom of movement within the EU is destructive. I don't support Labour countenancing such a thing. I remain a Labour party member and work within the party for changes.
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I used to live with the soup dragon. Ironically she was even less keen on cooking than me!HindleA wrote:My soup dragon impersonation is not as good as it was.
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You as well?.She has certainly been around a planet or two.
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Something comparatively cheerful, that's what you need.PaulfromYorkshire wrote:
Thankfully I have a Nick Cave gig to go to so won't be around this evening in any case
I still believe in a town called Hope
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Saw Nick Cave with Kylie once at the Fridge in Brixton.
Well I saw Nick Cave.
Well I saw Nick Cave.
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Just turned 60,apparently.
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Am lying it was Brixton Academy.
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Them were 't days
(wistful existential-crisis-type-middle-aged angst emoticon)
Them were 't days
(wistful existential-crisis-type-middle-aged angst emoticon)
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Not to mention Gary Clail owes me a pint
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Tc2 never forgets.
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A thirty year seethe.
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Not posting Mary Hopkin.
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(and the rest)HindleA wrote:A thirty year seethe.
I don't mind that he owes me a pint. But should I chance upon him at a mixing desk in my area I shall bring it up politely.
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Knackered.It is hard posting relentless bollox(for me anyway)
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