Saturday, 30th September and Sunday, 1st October 2017

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Sat 30 Sep, 2017 5:05 pm

tinyclanger2 wrote:PF - sun's nearly over 't yard arm
turn page now!

Willco.

Over.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sat 30 Sep, 2017 5:07 pm

It's time!
DJ Clanger presents:

[youtube]rApvmAbksZQ[/youtube]

No lip syncing at all
And do look out for the unexpected horse.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sat 30 Sep, 2017 5:08 pm

good lord they don't make 'em like that any more

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sat 30 Sep, 2017 5:08 pm

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 30 Sep, 2017 5:09 pm

I am afraid the generalised stereotypical simplistic and vomitting of hatred stuff is exactly the same as the Labour party of welfare and demonisation.

howsillyofme1 · Post by **howsillyofme1** » Sat 30 Sep, 2017 5:16 pm

Tubby Isaacs wrote:Davidson's been pretty one-dimensional, with the focus on Unionism. But that was exactly the right tactics for her party in Scotland, so I wouldn't necessarily say she can't broaden out from that. There's been a few signs of good sense in swerving the most poisonous parts of Westminster Toryism.

And she is pretty right wing, no doubt about that. I wonder though if that could work in getting most of the people who vote for May out, while having a positive distance from Hard Brexit. "Don't anyone dare fuck with my patriotism!" while she softens the EU policy, from wherever we are.

I suppose so but there a lot of 'what ifs' in there and she will not be in place before May 2019 is anyway I would guess - she may be a future leader of a post Brexit Tory Party but what will be left of it by then is difficult to guess

The feeling I have she is the more vulnerable the more coverage she gets......as May is. She will need to move on from the unionism card as you say for the future elections and let us hope Scottish Labour stop cosying up to her as they have seemed to do in recent elections.

howsillyofme1 · Post by **howsillyofme1** » Sat 30 Sep, 2017 5:19 pm

thanks tc2 - was on top on BBC4 fairly recently (they are repeating all from 1984 at the moment - well when I say all, the ones with no Savile in them!)

OMD were in the charts for the last one and i am going to see them in Lausanne in December.......31 years on from the last time I saw them

My mates say they watch the program and try to guess which of the shite I had bought the 12"! Unfortunately their assumptions are often too close to the truth

Tubby Isaacs · Post by **Tubby Isaacs** » Sat 30 Sep, 2017 5:20 pm

That's right. She's not going to get cosied up to as UK politician, I wouldn't think.

Funny that Scottish Labour don't seem to have been harmed in the recent past by sticking closer than I'd have liked to Davidson. Corbyn was useful there, a good combination with Dugdale's focus on the SNP.

Tubby Isaacs · Post by **Tubby Isaacs** » Sat 30 Sep, 2017 5:22 pm

Fans of old Top of the Pops might enjoy these podcasts by a friend of mind and two of his friends. I haven't heard them yet.

https://chartmusiccouk.wordpress.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 30 Sep, 2017 5:22 pm

Not offended.If I switch off I would question the use of it in persuasion.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Sat 30 Sep, 2017 5:23 pm

tinyclanger2 wrote:good lord they don't make 'em like that any more

Was that an ice-skating horse I just saw?

tinybgoat · Post by **tinybgoat** » Sat 30 Sep, 2017 5:25 pm

tinyclanger2 wrote:
Tubby Isaacs wrote:
HindleA wrote:But not a steady state,you become a pensioner it doesn't necessarily mean you suddenly vote Tory,Some shit coming by the way for some.
You probably do in Christchurch, if you're not already!

I've done this before, haven't I, given the impression I think all pensioners have a wonderful time? They don't, not by a long chalk.
I went to Christchurch once and was a bit freaked out by the abundance of union jack bunting. Met a guy in the church (a church?) measuring the distance between the chairs.

f.w.i.w, I had some Grandparents, used to live in Christchurch & I have a vague memory of visiting the church ( aka Christchurch priory), in the '80s,
though on second thoughts, may have been the crematorium . . .

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 30 Sep, 2017 5:26 pm

One of my kettles packed up I am not in the best of moods,probably best ignored.You do anyway? Barstewards.

howsillyofme1 · Post by **howsillyofme1** » Sat 30 Sep, 2017 5:28 pm

HindleA wrote:One of my kettles packed up I am not in the best of moods,probably best ignored.You do anyway? Barstewards.

Did somebody say something.......?

howsillyofme1 · Post by **howsillyofme1** » Sat 30 Sep, 2017 5:29 pm

MrA - you live in a multi-kettle household?

How very middle class

howsillyofme1 · Post by **howsillyofme1** » Sat 30 Sep, 2017 5:31 pm

gust watching totp from last night on catch-up

First two songs...had 12"s.....oh dear

Willow904 · Post by **Willow904** » Sat 30 Sep, 2017 5:34 pm

Donald Trump is not to be outdone on insensitivity, I see. Even by Boris Johnson.

http://m.huffpost.com/uk/entry/uk_59cf9 ... mg00000008" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Donald Trump Attacks Puerto Ricans Who 'Want Everything Done For Them' Amid Hurricane Maria Devastation

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 30 Sep, 2017 5:35 pm

Chain tea drinker/smoker,having back up is necessary.I had one prepared when the other one was struggling.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 30 Sep, 2017 5:36 pm

WE did have a teasmaid thing,personally I found it a pain the arse.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 30 Sep, 2017 5:37 pm

Especially when I sat on it.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 30 Sep, 2017 5:47 pm

Desperately searching out flat cap,changing accent etc to counter middle-class accusations.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 30 Sep, 2017 5:48 pm

Always use the tradesman's entrance.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 30 Sep, 2017 5:51 pm

tc2 I missed it inadvertently but scrolled back,thanks

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 30 Sep, 2017 6:00 pm

@Tubby thanks for link

howsillyofme1 · Post by **howsillyofme1** » Sat 30 Sep, 2017 6:25 pm

I have one of those teas maid things........in fact I have just told her to go and make me one!

(c) Bernard Manning 1978

tinybgoat · Post by **tinybgoat** » Sat 30 Sep, 2017 6:28 pm

HindleA wrote:Desperately searching out flat cap,changing accent etc to counter middle-class accusations.

Maybe:
https://www.highgrovegardens.com/highgr ... t-cap.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
..for the Discerning Gentleman.

howsillyofme1 · Post by **howsillyofme1** » Sat 30 Sep, 2017 6:29 pm

MrH

Did your teasmaid ever tell you shove it and get off your fat lazy arse and make it yourself?

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 30 Sep, 2017 6:38 pm

Long since gone,though if a talking one became available...

Willow904 · Post by **Willow904** » Sat 30 Sep, 2017 6:41 pm

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/tori ... -5x3nhzvcz" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Tories are trapped in a zombie apocalypse
matthew parris

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sat 30 Sep, 2017 7:07 pm

howsillyofme1 wrote:thanks tc2 - was on top on BBC4 fairly recently (they are repeating all from 1984 at the moment - well when I say all, the ones with no Savile in them!)

OMD were in the charts for the last one and i am going to see them in Lausanne in December.......31 years on from the last time I saw them

My mates say they watch the program and try to guess which of the shite I had bought the 12"! Unfortunately their assumptions are often too close to the truth

I once worked in a record store in Manchester and had to work out what someone meant by "alone again". Turned out it was:

[youtube]d5XJ2GiR6Bo[/youtube]

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sat 30 Sep, 2017 7:10 pm

PorFavor wrote:
tinyclanger2 wrote:good lord they don't make 'em like that any more
Was that an ice-skating horse I just saw?

Yes. How marvellous.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 30 Sep, 2017 7:10 pm

https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 ... -id-checks" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Protesters stage London demo against plans for patient ID checks
Critics fear checks will destroy relationship NHS staff have with patients and create climate of fear that stops people accessing care

Post by **refitman** » Sat 30 Sep, 2017 7:12 pm

howsillyofme1 wrote:I have one of those teas maid things........in fact I have just told her to go and make me one!

(c) Bernard Manning 1978

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PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Sat 30 Sep, 2017 7:14 pm

tinyclanger2 wrote:
PorFavor wrote:
tinyclanger2 wrote:good lord they don't make 'em like that any more
Was that an ice-skating horse I just saw?
Yes. How marvellous.

I know you said watch out for an unexpected horse, but I wasn't expecting it to be that talented.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sat 30 Sep, 2017 7:15 pm

Live updates on TPC:

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 75816.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The beleaguered Prime Minister has faced two public interventions on Brexit from Boris Johnson and reported behind-the-scenes division among ministers about withdrawal from the EU.

heart bleeds etc

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 30 Sep, 2017 7:15 pm

I did with a bit of imagination.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sat 30 Sep, 2017 7:25 pm

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/po ... 74921.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Theresa May mocked for claiming election lacked 'debates' after refusing to take part in any
Prime Minister also says it is important to meet members of the public, despite having been criticised for behind-closed-doors events

Say what you like about Tez - at least she's self-aware.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sat 30 Sep, 2017 7:26 pm

in an interview with The House magazine to mark the start of the Conservatives’ party conference in Manchester, Ms May reminisced about past years “when there was much more of an emphasis on people coming together for debates during election campaigns”.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sat 30 Sep, 2017 7:28 pm

The woman is ... where's Adam?

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Sat 30 Sep, 2017 7:33 pm

tinyclanger2 wrote:The woman is ... where's Adam?

I think he said that he was going to Barking.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sat 30 Sep, 2017 8:29 pm

Uber and disability

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/let ... 75741.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
The contribution to the Uber debate of letters correspondents representing the disabled experience makes interesting reading. It also seems to indicate how far we’ve regressed as a society. Back in 1982 London’s Labour GLC introduced subsidised taxi travel for the disabled as a right. We now seem to have a situation where they count themselves lucky if they can rely on sweatshop employment practices for mobility.

Gavin Lewis
Manchester

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sat 30 Sep, 2017 8:32 pm

Minimum income schemes can lift people out of poverty, according to a consensus reached by the European Parliament’s Employment Committee.

While most EU countries already have minimum income schemes, few provide adequate support for those in need. As such, the MEPs called on all EU members to introduce a minimum income and, if necessary, upgrade existing schemes.
https://www.neweurope.eu/article/meps-c ... um-income/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sat 30 Sep, 2017 8:36 pm

According to a European Parliament press release, almost 120m people in the EU (25% of the EU’s population) are at risk of poverty and social exclusion. Children, women, the unemployed, single-parent households and people with disabilities are considered especially vulnerable groups.

The MEPs said minimum income schemes should combine financial support with easier access to social and public services like housing, healthcare, education and training. And those who can work should get assistance in gaining access to the labour market.

Thank god we're taking back control so that we can continue to get shafted by the descendants of the illegitimate sons of our French, Dutch and German royals.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Sat 30 Sep, 2017 9:15 pm

Or did he say he was going to a conference in Manchester? I get muddled, sometimes.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 30 Sep, 2017 9:24 pm

Amateur

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 30 Sep, 2017 9:27 pm

The question mark is apt.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 30 Sep, 2017 9:53 pm

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfr ... rds-labour" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sat 30 Sep, 2017 10:06 pm

New Ukip leader refuses to call for immigration cap
Henry Bolton says cap would be ‘entirely unrealistic’ despite claiming that migrants are overwhelming public services
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... kip-leader" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sat 30 Sep, 2017 10:07 pm

Does anyone with expertise in cultural history know if there has been a similarly bizarre period in our past?

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sat 30 Sep, 2017 10:08 pm

Oi - PF - don't forget to turn the