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Monday 2nd October 2017

Posted: Mon 02 Oct, 2017 7:11 am
by refitman
Morning all.

Re: Monday 2nd October 2017

Posted: Mon 02 Oct, 2017 8:21 am
by tinybgoat
Morning, I think this got mentioned at weekend,
but for anyone wanting a chance to part with some money :-
https://www.crowdjustice.com/case/did-v ... ng-limits/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
"Did Vote Leave break spending limits? We need to know."

Re: Monday 2nd October 2017

Posted: Mon 02 Oct, 2017 8:25 am
by PaulfromYorkshire
Intriguing start to the day from Laura K

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Re: Monday 2nd October 2017

Posted: Mon 02 Oct, 2017 8:29 am
by tinybgoat
I (along with everyone else at work) received an email on Friday, suggesting we vote for our boss in the Unreasonable person awards.

https://www.london.edu/news-and-events/ ... rson-award" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I hadn't heard of them, but they sound interesting,
& I voted for someone, but can't say who, suffice to say, I hope they don't monitor web activity at work to closely. :?

Re: Monday 2nd October 2017

Posted: Mon 02 Oct, 2017 8:47 am
by HindleA
Morning


https://nearlylegal.co.uk/2017/10/fitne ... call-arms/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Fitness for Habitation 2.0 – Q&A and call to arms

Re: Monday 2nd October 2017

Posted: Mon 02 Oct, 2017 8:52 am
by HindleA
Said "We want to smooth the entry into an inbuilt debt."

Re: Monday 2nd October 2017

Posted: Mon 02 Oct, 2017 9:06 am
by Willow904
https://amp.theguardian.com/technology/ ... ump-voters" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
British courts may unlock secrets of how Trump campaign profiled US voters
Legal mechanism may help academic expose how Big Data firms like Cambridge Analytica and Facebook get their information

Re: Monday 2nd October 2017

Posted: Mon 02 Oct, 2017 9:09 am
by RogerOThornhill
Morning all.

Ouch.

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Re: Monday 2nd October 2017

Posted: Mon 02 Oct, 2017 9:15 am
by HindleA
PF looking for her lighter,dressing gown pocket.

Re: Monday 2nd October 2017

Posted: Mon 02 Oct, 2017 9:29 am
by HindleA
Labour calls for inquiry after private ambulance firm folds


https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 ... firm-folds" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Monday 2nd October 2017

Posted: Mon 02 Oct, 2017 9:40 am
by HindleA
https://mainlymacro.blogspot.co.uk/2017 ... pular.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;



Why is Modern Monetary Theory so popular?


S.Wren-Lewis

Re: Monday 2nd October 2017

Posted: Mon 02 Oct, 2017 9:43 am
by PorFavor
HindleA wrote:Labour calls for inquiry after private ambulance firm folds


https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 ... firm-folds" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
From the article -
Labour MP Justin Madders, the shadow health minister, said: “It is still staggering that under the Tories so many parts of the NHS are being packaged up and sold off to companies who are unable to run the services properly.

“Several hundreds of staff and thousands of patients are now faced with huge uncertainty because of the failings of another private ambulance firm, and it’s not the first time this has happened.”
Madders called for an inquiry into what went wrong, saying the government should place “an immediate halt” on issuing other patient transport contracts until “lessons have been learned”.
I'd have thought that the lessons to be learned are:

a) obvious; and

b) already learned (or should have been).




Edited - tidy up

Re: Monday 2nd October 2017

Posted: Mon 02 Oct, 2017 9:43 am
by PorFavor
Good morfternoon.



(Found it!)

Re: Monday 2nd October 2017

Posted: Mon 02 Oct, 2017 10:02 am
by RogerOThornhill
John Crace‏Verified account @JohnJCrace 42m42 minutes ago
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At a Con fringe to increase membership among young people. About 70 people all over 45. The Tory Momentum starts here #CPC17
:D

Re: Monday 2nd October 2017

Posted: Mon 02 Oct, 2017 10:08 am
by PaulfromYorkshire
HindleA wrote:https://mainlymacro.blogspot.co.uk/2017 ... pular.html



Why is Modern Monetary Theory so popular?


S.Wren-Lewis
This is superb. A great piece of writing on a difficult topic. Thank you.

Re: Monday 2nd October 2017

Posted: Mon 02 Oct, 2017 10:26 am
by HindleA
Thanks but it was only a link. ;)

Re: Monday 2nd October 2017

Posted: Mon 02 Oct, 2017 10:34 am
by HindleA
England’s new homes shortfall will reach more than one million by 2022


http://www.24housing.co.uk/news/england ... n-by-2022/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Monday 2nd October 2017

Posted: Mon 02 Oct, 2017 10:59 am
by HindleA
https://www.theguardian.com/science/liv ... icine-live" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;


Jeffrey C Hall, Michael Rosbash and Michael W Young awarded the 2017 Nobel prize in physiology or medicine – live!

Re: Monday 2nd October 2017

Posted: Mon 02 Oct, 2017 11:04 am
by gilsey
James Willby explains how we got into this mess.
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Re: Monday 2nd October 2017

Posted: Mon 02 Oct, 2017 11:36 am
by AnatolyKasparov
gilsey wrote:James Willby explains how we got into this mess.
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Though "2015 is where it started to go wrong" is certainly debatable - things were set in train some time before that.

Re: Monday 2nd October 2017

Posted: Mon 02 Oct, 2017 11:48 am
by PorFavor
Well, I've tried - but it's just too tedious.

On the up-side, the cat's litter tray is sparkling clean.

(And, yes, I have washed my hands - before someone asks.)

Re: Monday 2nd October 2017

Posted: Mon 02 Oct, 2017 11:49 am
by PorFavor
Where's citizenJA?





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Re: Monday 2nd October 2017

Posted: Mon 02 Oct, 2017 11:54 am
by Willow904
AnatolyKasparov wrote:
gilsey wrote:James Willby explains how we got into this mess.
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Though "2015 is where it started to go wrong" is certainly debatable - things were set in train some time before that.
Oh, I don't know. David Cameron didn't have to offer an EU referendum in his 2015 manifesto. He did so because he couldn't beat Ed Miliband without the Ukip vote. It was Cameron's weakness that made Brexit inevitable, even if the pressures (mostly from foreign billionaire newspaper owners) pushing for Brexit are more longstanding.

Re: Monday 2nd October 2017

Posted: Mon 02 Oct, 2017 12:05 pm
by citizenJA
PorFavor wrote:Where's citizenJA?

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I'm here
not feeling well

Re: Monday 2nd October 2017

Posted: Mon 02 Oct, 2017 12:07 pm
by citizenJA
Willow904 wrote:
AnatolyKasparov wrote:
gilsey wrote:James Willby explains how we got into this mess.
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Though "2015 is where it started to go wrong" is certainly debatable - things were set in train some time before that.
Oh, I don't know. David Cameron didn't have to offer an EU referendum in his 2015 manifesto. He did so because he couldn't beat Ed Miliband without the Ukip vote. It was Cameron's weakness that made Brexit inevitable, even if the pressures (mostly from foreign billionaire newspaper owners) pushing for Brexit are more longstanding.
Tory government fouled up with BadAtIt at the helm prior 2015

Re: Monday 2nd October 2017

Posted: Mon 02 Oct, 2017 12:08 pm
by PorFavor
citizenJA wrote:
PorFavor wrote:Where's citizenJA?

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I'm here
not feeling well

Hello. Sorry to hear that you don't feel too good. Hope you get better soon.

Re: Monday 2nd October 2017

Posted: Mon 02 Oct, 2017 12:09 pm
by AnatolyKasparov
citizenJA wrote:
PorFavor wrote:Where's citizenJA?

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I'm here
not feeling well
Get well soon :)

Re: Monday 2nd October 2017

Posted: Mon 02 Oct, 2017 12:11 pm
by citizenJA
Thanks
Is anyone reading/listening to that Tory Hammond now?
vile, just vile stuff

Re: Monday 2nd October 2017

Posted: Mon 02 Oct, 2017 12:15 pm
by citizenJA
The b*****d still has the audacity to call it Labour's fault

Re: Monday 2nd October 2017

Posted: Mon 02 Oct, 2017 12:17 pm
by AnatolyKasparov
citizenJA wrote:The b*****d still has the audacity to call it Labour's fault
Twas ever thus, they were bringing up the WoD until the mid 90s :D

Re: Monday 2nd October 2017

Posted: Mon 02 Oct, 2017 12:29 pm
by gilsey
AnatolyKasparov wrote:
gilsey wrote:James Willby explains how we got into this mess.
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Though "2015 is where it started to go wrong" is certainly debatable - things were set in train some time before that.
That's my point really, dickheads like him who thought the coalition had 'economic pragmatism', when they were actually trashing the economy and some of them knew it and didn't care.

Re: Monday 2nd October 2017

Posted: Mon 02 Oct, 2017 12:30 pm
by HindleA
PF for future guidance

http://www.cpft.nhs.uk/Downloads/DVD-Do ... poster.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Monday 2nd October 2017

Posted: Mon 02 Oct, 2017 12:31 pm
by citizenJA
The UK’s biggest peacetime repatriation is under way...

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/ ... nistration" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
good lord

Re: Monday 2nd October 2017

Posted: Mon 02 Oct, 2017 12:35 pm
by citizenJA
Michael Gove, the environment secretary, has told a fringe meeting at the Conservative conference that Britain will be able export more pigs’ ears after Brexit.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/bl ... 0170984451" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
you've got to be kidding me
someone call the authorities, please

Re: Monday 2nd October 2017

Posted: Mon 02 Oct, 2017 12:38 pm
by HindleA
He's leaving the Country?

Re: Monday 2nd October 2017

Posted: Mon 02 Oct, 2017 12:41 pm
by gilsey
HindleA wrote:https://mainlymacro.blogspot.co.uk/2017 ... pular.html



Why is Modern Monetary Theory so popular?


S.Wren-Lewis
once we are off the lower bound should we be fiscalists like MMT or should we return to the Consensus Assignment?
Looking forward to having that debate, if I live long enough.

Re: Monday 2nd October 2017

Posted: Mon 02 Oct, 2017 12:42 pm
by citizenJA
HindleA wrote:He's leaving the Country?
oh, ha ha ha... :lol:

Re: Monday 2nd October 2017

Posted: Mon 02 Oct, 2017 12:43 pm
by PorFavor
This is something like watching a LibDem Conference - not for the content, but the general feel.

Re: Monday 2nd October 2017

Posted: Mon 02 Oct, 2017 12:45 pm
by PorFavor
David Mundell is an electrifying speaker, isn't he?

Re: Monday 2nd October 2017

Posted: Mon 02 Oct, 2017 12:46 pm
by HindleA
Will watch later but is that guy with the beard staring into the camera there,freaked me out.

Re: Monday 2nd October 2017

Posted: Mon 02 Oct, 2017 12:49 pm
by HindleA
Particularly, I should add,it is all relative,

Re: Monday 2nd October 2017

Posted: Mon 02 Oct, 2017 1:26 pm
by PorFavor
Anti-austerity protesters disrupt Rees-Mogg fringe meetingThe Pres

A Tory conference event featuring Jacob Rees-Mogg has descended into chaos after protesters mobbed the high-profile backbencher. (Politics Live, Guardian)

Re: Monday 2nd October 2017

Posted: Mon 02 Oct, 2017 1:37 pm
by HindleA
£10 billion continued profligacy confirmed.

Re: Monday 2nd October 2017

Posted: Mon 02 Oct, 2017 1:47 pm
by HindleA
http://press.labour.org.uk/post/1659664 ... the-misery" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Re: Monday 2nd October 2017

Posted: Mon 02 Oct, 2017 1:56 pm
by PorFavor
CBI says Hammond's speech offered 'slim pickings' and 'weak on action'

Here is Carolyn Fairbairn, the CBI director general, on Philip Hammond’s speech.

The chancellor has given a passionate defence of free markets and the importance of business and government working to tackle inequality. That is necessary, but not sufficient.

The UK is facing a generation defining-challenge. A potent cocktail of Brexit uncertainty and dogma-driven politics on both left and right threatens jobs, investment and living standards. Now is not the time for half measures.

The speech shows a government strong on diagnosis, but weak on action. Businesses looking for clear vision and urgent delivery have been left with slim pickings. Renewing the UK’s creaking infrastructure will unlock regional growth and living standards, as will improving access to housing. But they are only parts of the puzzle.

It is time for honesty about the challenges we face. Our economy is under threat – it has moved from the top of the G7 to the bottom. Faltering consumer and business confidence risks lowering living standards. Rising inflation is putting pressure on households.

The solution must be for responsible business and government to grow our way out of austerity. But this can only happen with clarity, unity and action. Today’s speech was only one step in that direction.

This must be the most negative comment the CBI has issued about a party conference speech from a Conservative chancellor for years. (Politics Live, Guardian)

Re: Monday 2nd October 2017

Posted: Mon 02 Oct, 2017 2:15 pm
by gilsey
PorFavor wrote:
CBI says Hammond's speech offered 'slim pickings' and 'weak on action'

Here is Carolyn Fairbairn, the CBI director general, on Philip Hammond’s speech.

The chancellor has given a passionate defence of free markets and the importance of business and government working to tackle inequality. That is necessary, but not sufficient.

The UK is facing a generation defining-challenge. A potent cocktail of Brexit uncertainty and dogma-driven politics on both left and right threatens jobs, investment and living standards. Now is not the time for half measures.

The speech shows a government strong on diagnosis, but weak on action. Businesses looking for clear vision and urgent delivery have been left with slim pickings. Renewing the UK’s creaking infrastructure will unlock regional growth and living standards, as will improving access to housing. But they are only parts of the puzzle.

It is time for honesty about the challenges we face. Our economy is under threat – it has moved from the top of the G7 to the bottom. Faltering consumer and business confidence risks lowering living standards. Rising inflation is putting pressure on households.

The solution must be for responsible business and government to grow our way out of austerity. But this can only happen with clarity, unity and action. Today’s speech was only one step in that direction.

This must be the most negative comment the CBI has issued about a party conference speech from a Conservative chancellor for years. (Politics Live, Guardian)
'The uncertainty created by Brexit' is a 'short-term challenge' according to Hammond and 'the economy will start growing properly again' once that's addressed. From Hammond's Today interview.
Given that he's clearly the most realistic member of the govt, it just points up that the level of delusion of the rest of them is off the scale.

Re: Monday 2nd October 2017

Posted: Mon 02 Oct, 2017 2:48 pm
by RogerOThornhill
Paul Waugh‏Verified account @paulwaugh 31m31 minutes ago
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In all my 19 yrs of doing these gigs, that's the 1st Chancellor's party conf speech that hasn't been followed by a media briefing. Go figure
This conference really had got the "Do we really have to have a conference this year?" feel to it.

Re: Monday 2nd October 2017

Posted: Mon 02 Oct, 2017 2:53 pm
by PorFavor
Oooh - Michael Gove now! How exciting.

Re: Monday 2nd October 2017

Posted: Mon 02 Oct, 2017 3:04 pm
by PorFavor
The audience doesn't seem in the mood to be pleased. Michael Gove keeps pausing for applause but it's a long time coming.

Re: Monday 2nd October 2017

Posted: Mon 02 Oct, 2017 3:22 pm
by HindleA
https://redbrickblog.wordpress.com/2017 ... plans/amp/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Where will the money come from for Labour’s housing plans?



"Fortunately George Osborne pumped such large sums into housing, with commitments running years ahead, that there is plenty of scope for finding this money from the existing housing budget."