Saturday 4th & Sunday 5th November 2017.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 04 Nov, 2017 7:38 am

Morning

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... xit-rights" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

UK has conceded on cut-off date for EU nationals, say Brussels sources
Exclusive: Sources close to Brexit talks say collapse in number coming to UK has sunk case for earlier date on protected rights

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 04 Nov, 2017 7:58 am

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/11/02/opin ... -plan.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

"A Tax Plan For A New Gilded Age "

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Sat 04 Nov, 2017 8:37 am

Good morfternoon.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 04 Nov, 2017 8:46 am

Hello.Good Morning.
I am determined to be sensible today.In experimental terms it will interesting to see if at all possible.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 04 Nov, 2017 8:56 am

New York Marathon tomorrow.It has or did have a later start than normally the case.That is my excuse for having eight Dunkin' Donuts pre-race.You go through the five boroughs from Staten Island to Central Park.Let's just say I took my time and savoured the experience.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 04 Nov, 2017 9:01 am

Might go for "relatively"sensible on a give yourself an achievable goal basis.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sat 04 Nov, 2017 9:07 am

Expectation management is key

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 04 Nov, 2017 9:12 am

Already thinking of deleting my intention.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 04 Nov, 2017 9:17 am

https://www.theguardian.com/education/2 ... government" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Families of child sexual abuse victims threaten action against UK government
Families of children attacked or harassed by other pupils are dismayed by lengthy delays in issuing guidelines to schools

tinybgoat · Post by **tinybgoat** » Sat 04 Nov, 2017 9:19 am

HindleA wrote:Already thinking of deleting my intention.

But that might be the sensible option.

Post by **PaulfromYorkshire** » Sat 04 Nov, 2017 9:39 am

Morning All

I enjoyed Gogglebox very much last night. Among the heart-rending cancer appeal stories (nothing more to say), there was plenty for the politically engaged!

Of course Jeremy Corbyn was one of the "celebrity" viewers. Unsurprisingly he cam over as very normal. Then one of the clips was Michael Fabricant on celebrity First Date. My word! And then plenty of discussion of the sleaze in Parliament.

I've had suspicions before that Gogglebox is a bit to the left

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Sat 04 Nov, 2017 10:43 am

HindleA wrote:New York Marathon tomorrow.It has or did have a later start than normally the case.That is my excuse for having eight Dunkin' Donuts pre-race.You go through the five boroughs from Staten Island to Central Park.Let's just say I took my time and savoured the experience.

So you are actually Homer Simpson.

It all starts to make sense now......

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 04 Nov, 2017 10:54 am

D'OH!

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Sat 04 Nov, 2017 11:35 am

Any indication of what these "serious allegations" against Elphicke are yet?

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 04 Nov, 2017 11:47 am

Haven't seen anything,though I am in Springfield and on fifth bottle of Duff beer.

tinybgoat · Post by **tinybgoat** » Sat 04 Nov, 2017 12:46 pm

AnatolyKasparov wrote:Any indication of what these "serious allegations" against Elphicke are yet?

Maybe it's to do with £22k donation?
http://www.kentonline.co.uk/dover/news/ ... on-131583/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Sat 04 Nov, 2017 1:42 pm

Good-afternoon, everyone

Willow904 · Post by **Willow904** » Sat 04 Nov, 2017 3:01 pm

http://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/brist ... 721112.amp" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Avon and Somerset Police urged to investigate whether the EU referendum was illegal

MEP Molly Scott Cato says police should follow-up on Bristol-centric spending complaints

Willow904 · Post by **Willow904** » Sat 04 Nov, 2017 3:07 pm

http://www.newsweek.com/trump-blowhard- ... 2007?amp=1" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

TRUMP IS A ‘BLOWHARD,’ ‘I DON’T LIKE HIM’ AND I VOTED FOR HILLARY, GEORGE BUSH SAYS IN NEW BOOK

Strange times!

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Sat 04 Nov, 2017 3:27 pm

That would indeed be newsworthy if it was the younger GB - however, its his dad.

Still interesting, though - he became quite friendly with the Clintons over time despite the very negative campaign the Republicans fought again Bill back in 1992.

(the 25th anniversary of that election was yesterday btw)

Willow904 · Post by **Willow904** » Sat 04 Nov, 2017 3:54 pm

AnatolyKasparov wrote:That would indeed be newsworthy if it was the younger GB - however, its his dad.

Still interesting, though - he became quite friendly with the Clintons over time despite the very negative campaign the Republicans fought again Bill back in 1992.

(the 25th anniversary of that election was yesterday btw)

George W might not have voted for Hillary, but he didn't vote for Trump, either.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sat 04 Nov, 2017 4:00 pm

Envisioning Hindle, Tarquin, PF and Constance all grooving in their own special ways to this one:

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There is indeed.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sat 04 Nov, 2017 4:01 pm

Some times people do the strangest things.

Not half.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sat 04 Nov, 2017 4:02 pm

Willow904 · Post by **Willow904** » Sat 04 Nov, 2017 5:32 pm

Induction cooking tuna pasta bake while bopping along to Gary Clail playing on a teeny tiny computer- it's at times like this I realise I'm actually living in the future of my youth

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Sat 04 Nov, 2017 5:58 pm

tinyclanger2 wrote:Some times people do the strangest things.

Not half.

Greetings, pop-picker!

Willow904 · Post by **Willow904** » Sat 04 Nov, 2017 7:36 pm

https://inews.co.uk/opinion/comment/sex ... doors/amp/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

James Chapman: Sexminster has the nation’s attention, but what else is the government up to?

Useful round up of the week's other political news.

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Sat 04 Nov, 2017 8:17 pm

This could be something or nothing round about 10pm...

Neil Henderson ✔ @hendopolis
Do please join me for what I suspect may be a quite interesting #tomorrowspaperstoday

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sat 04 Nov, 2017 8:21 pm

Poppies or no poppies?
Either way the quality has declined.

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traditional....................................................................................... recent

(in my view)

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Sat 04 Nov, 2017 8:25 pm

RogerOThornhill wrote:This could be something or nothing round about 10pm...

Neil Henderson ✔ @hendopolis
Do please join me for what I suspect may be a quite interesting #tomorrowspaperstoday

One (Tory) MP got mentioned rather randomly "in another place" earlier today. Let see if the Sundays mention them.......

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Sat 04 Nov, 2017 9:03 pm

I'm not much liking this new "sensible" lark.

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Sat 04 Nov, 2017 9:45 pm

Oh my.

Tim Shipman‏ @ShippersUnbound 5m5 minutes ago
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BREAKING: Police found "extreme" pornography on the computers of Theresa May's deputy Damian Green when his office was raided in 2008

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Sat 04 Nov, 2017 9:59 pm

RogerOThornhill wrote:Oh my.

Tim Shipman‏ @ShippersUnbound 5m5 minutes ago
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BREAKING: Police found "extreme" pornography on the computers of Theresa May's deputy Damian Green when his office was raided in 2008

Goodness, gracious me!

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Sat 04 Nov, 2017 10:05 pm

Good grief, they're all at it...

Tim Shipman‏ @ShippersUnbound 16m16 minutes ago
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STIMES: MP Andrew Bridgen says he told whips in 2010 that female colleagues had complained about Dan Poulter putting hand up skirts

On the Green porn story apparently it was a govt computer - I've known people with similar on works computers having instant dismissal. No argument, you're going now.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Sat 04 Nov, 2017 11:07 pm

Why'd it take so long?

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Sat 04 Nov, 2017 11:20 pm

citizenJA wrote:Why'd it take so long?

Well apparently it was legal but Green's statement attributes the story to a disgruntled policeman who got rapped over the knuckles over Green's arrest at the time.

If the ST have got this wrong there's a few journos' jobs gone for certain.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sat 04 Nov, 2017 11:48 pm

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... ssia-trump" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Boris Johnson in spotlight as questions raised over Russian influence on UK
Foreign secretary among three ministers targeted by people linked to FBI investigation into Donald Trump’s alleged collusion with Moscow

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Sat 04 Nov, 2017 11:56 pm

Goodnight, everyone
love,
cJA

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sat 04 Nov, 2017 11:57 pm

These, on the other hand, are quite nice:

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tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sun 05 Nov, 2017 12:00 am

http://www.independent.co.uk/environmen ... 37261.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
A farm situated in the middle of the M62 motorway is set to become a wildlife haven, as part of a new initiative to promote agricultural sustainability, wildlife biodiversity and water quality in the region.
...
Plans include the restoration of a peatland bog to lock carbon dioxide into the land to help reduce global warming.

The farm will also open brand new scientific and educational centres for environmental studies students, to carry out case studies on-site as part of their learning curriculum.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sun 05 Nov, 2017 7:18 am

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... he-commons" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
“There’s no sense of decency any more,” one Beijing resident recently told the New York Times after finding a bike ditched in a bush outside his home. “We treat each other like enemies.”

In a world where being a bastard is rewarded - promotion, election to Office etc - it is hardly surprising that societal shift is towards the less pleasant end of the spectrum. From Digging for Victory to Brexit in our case.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Sun 05 Nov, 2017 9:11 am

Good morfternoon.

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Sun 05 Nov, 2017 10:17 am

Good morning, all.

Today's papers won't make pleasant breakfast reading for No 10, I suspect.

gilsey · Post by **gilsey** » Sun 05 Nov, 2017 10:33 am

AnatolyKasparov wrote:Good morning, all.

Today's papers won't make pleasant breakfast reading for No 10, I suspect.

When would have been the last time they were pleasant reading do you think? Before the election?

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Sun 05 Nov, 2017 10:34 am

AnatolyKasparov wrote:Good morning, all.

Today's papers won't make pleasant breakfast reading for No 10, I suspect.

Is the Damian Green computer story linked to the kerfuffle surrounding the then Serjeant at Arms (Jill Somebodyoranother?) or am I mis-remembering?

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Sun 05 Nov, 2017 10:37 am

I think it is, yes - the authorities seized his stuff didn't they?

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Sun 05 Nov, 2017 10:39 am

AnatolyKasparov wrote:I think it is, yes - the authorities seized his stuff didn't they?

Yes, they did. There was a lot of hoo-hah about their being allowed in in the first place, as I recall.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Sun 05 Nov, 2017 10:59 am

Good-morning, everyone

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Sun 05 Nov, 2017 11:26 am

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Delighted by news that @michaelgove has been added to Theresa May’s Brexit “war cabinet” – bodes well for Brexit

The Michael Gove who converted thousands of schools to academies, and then when told that the DfE couldn't possibly oversee them all from Whitehall, created civil service posts in a panic to get something done? That Michael Gove?

Bodes well then...

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Sun 05 Nov, 2017 11:46 am

Fears over betting lobby’s influence on MPs in fixed-odds terminal debate

Leaked document shows bookmakers’ sway on parliamentary debate (Guardian)

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/201 ... nce-on-mps