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That is scarily close to the kind of bollocks that happens where I work (a Civil service dept)
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According to “an ally” of Priti Patel’s quoted in a Telegraph story (paywall), the international development is not going to go down without a fight. The ally is quoted as saying:
["Patel is being made a scapegoat, it is not credible that the Foreign Office knew about these meetings but Downing Street did not. She left for Uganda after apologising and being told that she was safe - now they are bowing to pressure.
She is going to be pretty angry if she is sacked and she could do some pretty hard damage to Downing Street. No 10 is being naive, the prime minister will create an even bigger problem for herself if she sacks Priti."
["Patel is being made a scapegoat, it is not credible that the Foreign Office knew about these meetings but Downing Street did not. She left for Uganda after apologising and being told that she was safe - now they are bowing to pressure.
She is going to be pretty angry if she is sacked and she could do some pretty hard damage to Downing Street. No 10 is being naive, the prime minister will create an even bigger problem for herself if she sacks Priti."
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[youtube]d9DjDh3yjSM[/youtube]HindleA wrote:According to “an ally” of Priti Patel’s quoted in a Telegraph story (paywall), the international development is not going to go down without a fight. The ally is quoted as saying:
["Patel is being made a scapegoat, it is not credible that the Foreign Office knew about these meetings but Downing Street did not. She left for Uganda after apologising and being told that she was safe - now they are bowing to pressure.
She is going to be pretty angry if she is sacked and she could do some pretty hard damage to Downing Street. No 10 is being naive, the prime minister will create an even bigger problem for herself if she sacks Priti."
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Student Loans Company sacks chief executive Steve Lamey
Lamey’s contract is terminated after ‘investigations into allegations about aspects of his management and leadership’
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Lamey’s contract is terminated after ‘investigations into allegations about aspects of his management and leadership’
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From civil rights to human rights? Has UK disability rights been reframed since 2010?
From civil rights to human rights? Has UK disability rights been reframed since 2010?
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AnatolyKasparov wrote:Bad election night for the GOP over the pond, not before time tbh.
The Donald apparently tweeting it was all the fault of their candidates for not following his brilliant "unbeatable" strategy
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Patel's resigned. So May wasn't strong enough to sack her?
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:-the wrong way around seemed more appropriate
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FFS makes it sound like using the dessert spoon for soup,or something
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"Next Wednesday's resignation will be x at approximately the same time"
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HindleA wrote:FFS makes it sound like using the dessert spoon for soup,or something
Hehe ! The bit that grates most is her closeness to this nasty Likudist piece of work , from the Live Thread
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/li ... 06eab78b32" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;Peter Beaumont
Of all the meetings that Priti Patel held with Israeli ministers and officials, the meetings with Gilad Erdan, Israel’s public security and strategic affairs minister, are the most unusual and potentially damaging. She met him on her visit to Israel in August, and again in September in London. (See 7.27am.)
Erdan, an ambitious and abrasive member of Netanyahu’s own right wing Likud party, is better known for working against the kind of human rights advocates familiar to DfID staffers from their work.
In his strategic affairs role Erdan in particular has displayed McCarthyite tendencies, expressing at one stage his desire to set up a database of Israeli citizens who are involved in promoting and supporting boycotts, divestment and sanctions (BDS) movements against Israel or the settlements – a proposal that was opposed by the country’s attorney general Avichai Mendelblit who said he had no legal authority to collect data on the political views of Israelis.
A similar scheme targeting foreign nationals for intelligence gathering has been used to deny people entry to Israel.
In 2015 Erdan’s ministry was given powers including those to “guide, coordinate and integrate the activities of all the ministers and the government and of civil entities in Israel and abroad on the subject of the struggle against attempts to delegitimize Israel and the boycott movement”.
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Tonight's Crace, with links to many more on PP below it ...
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We are being spoilt !
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We are being spoilt !
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Yes, brilliant
Crace is brilliant
Crace is brilliant
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Missed yesterday's Crace too, but thanks to thaumaturge here it is --
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refitman wrote:Patel's resigned. So May wasn't strong enough to sack her?
Yeah forced to resign for unofficial meetings #10 (allegedly) knew about
what the f ity f?
weren't we until quite recently a relatively serious country?
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Not too sure about the replacement:-
(I love him really,no Tory,our Sidney chef)
(I love him really,no Tory,our Sidney chef)
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(You think PF's bad with knocking them back)
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PS - please don't misunderstand me - the departure seems appropriate - the handing of it not
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Watson has published a letter asking the PM to clarify what she knew and when she knew it.
Here are his questions:
Did Priti Patel meet UK consular officials while in Israel?
If so, what was the purpose of this meeting or meetings, and when and where did they take place?
Were any minutes taken?
Was Priti Patel acting with your authorisation in any of the meetings she held during her visit to Israel?
When were you made aware that Priti Patel had met officials from the British Consulate General Jerusalem during her visit to Israel?
When was the Foreign Secretary made aware that Priti Patel had met officials from the British Consulate General Jerusalem during her visit to Israel?
When did you become aware that Priti Patel was visiting Israel?
When did the FCO become aware that Priti Patel was visiting Israel?
Why was it not made public that Priti Patel had met British consular officials during her visit to Israel?
Did you, or did the FCO, request that information about Priti Patel meeting British consular officials be suppressed? If so, why? If not, why was it not published?
Here are his questions:
Did Priti Patel meet UK consular officials while in Israel?
If so, what was the purpose of this meeting or meetings, and when and where did they take place?
Were any minutes taken?
Was Priti Patel acting with your authorisation in any of the meetings she held during her visit to Israel?
When were you made aware that Priti Patel had met officials from the British Consulate General Jerusalem during her visit to Israel?
When was the Foreign Secretary made aware that Priti Patel had met officials from the British Consulate General Jerusalem during her visit to Israel?
When did you become aware that Priti Patel was visiting Israel?
When did the FCO become aware that Priti Patel was visiting Israel?
Why was it not made public that Priti Patel had met British consular officials during her visit to Israel?
Did you, or did the FCO, request that information about Priti Patel meeting British consular officials be suppressed? If so, why? If not, why was it not published?
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I have a suspicion we became part of America by mistake
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Of course the UK and the US share awfulnessestinyclanger2 wrote:I have a suspicion we became part of America by mistake
Small world
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Go for it PF/gilsey et al
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Guess you've all seen where May spent her evening. If not, look up Peston on Twitter.
And try not to swear or break anything.
And try not to swear or break anything.
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"Something doesn't add up with Number Ten's statement on Patel"
"Something doesn't add up with Number Ten's statement on Patel"
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Meanwhile, the grotesquely overrated Murdoch lackey and Spectator owner Andrew fucking Neil has described C4 as "a leftish version of Fox News".
Once again, well done to everyone at the BBC for so comprehensively trashing its reputation.
Once again, well done to everyone at the BBC for so comprehensively trashing its reputation.
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“” Peter Beaumont in Jerusalem
Wednesday 8 November 2017 12.12 GMT
First published on Wednesday 8 November 2017 11.49 GMT
The CFI bossman Lord Polak must be somewhat ‘challenged’ if he believed that grooming Piti so openly and allowing her to try to make UK foreign policy was ever goin to escape condemnation .
Well, perhaps he DID believe that the Likudist/Israeli Lobb could get away with literally anything in the UK ?
Wrongly, or not ?
Wednesday 8 November 2017 12.12 GMT
First published on Wednesday 8 November 2017 11.49 GMT
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... ign-policy" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;For the second time in less than a year, Israeli efforts to discreetly influence British policy has been disclosed.
In January, the embassy official Shai Masot was caught in an al-Jazeera sting to “take down” politicians regarded as unfriendly to Israel. This time a bigger fish has been caught: the UK’s international development secretary, Priti Patel.
Official visits to Israel by senior British political figures are common, but the sensitivities are usually acute; embassy and consulate staff carefully vet the locations and personnel visited by British diplomats and ministers.
Visits are always accompanied by diplomatic staff, with agendas designed to reflect UK policy – for example, making sure to include meetings with Palestinians and groups and individuals who may not be popular with the Israeli government.
Patel’s summer trip, organised with the head of the Conservative Friends of Israel lobby group, skipped all those protocols, despite a timetable that was highly ETC!“”
The CFI bossman Lord Polak must be somewhat ‘challenged’ if he believed that grooming Piti so openly and allowing her to try to make UK foreign policy was ever goin to escape condemnation .
Well, perhaps he DID believe that the Likudist/Israeli Lobb could get away with literally anything in the UK ?
Wrongly, or not ?