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It’s true: Conservative governments really do kill people

Consensus now is that the Tories were governing, sometimes controversially but broadly effectively, when Brexit came along and capsized everything. This is mistaken: the referendum could only have been called, and the leave campaign only fought, by politicians with a fundamental lack of seriousness, a puerile indifference to the outcome of their decisions.

Long before it gambled with our future prosperity and place in the world, the Conservative party was shooting craps with the lives of its own people.

PaulfromYorkshire wrote:

Consensus now is that the Tories were governing, sometimes controversially but broadly effectively, when Brexit came along and capsized everything. This is mistaken: the referendum could only have been called, and the leave campaign only fought, by politicians with a fundamental lack of seriousness, a puerile indifference to the outcome of their decisions.

Long before it gambled with our future prosperity and place in the world, the Conservative party was shooting craps with the lives of its own people.

People have been diagnosed with Victorian ailments including rickets and TB in one of the wealthiest parts of London, a shocking new report on inequality has revealed.

The gap between rich and poor in health, housing, education and income in the Grenfell fire-hit borough of Kensington and Chelsea has been laid bare in the report, compiled by Labour’s Emma Dent Coad.

The Kensington MP has compiled the report in the wake of the fatal tower block blaze to unmask the yawning gap between rich and poor in the area.

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People have been diagnosed with Victorian ailments including rickets and TB in one of the wealthiest parts of London, a shocking new report on inequality has revealed.

The gap between rich and poor in health, housing, education and income in the Grenfell fire-hit borough of Kensington and Chelsea has been laid bare in the report, compiled by Labour’s Emma Dent Coad.

The Kensington MP has compiled the report in the wake of the fatal tower block blaze to unmask the yawning gap between rich and poor in the area.

This is really good from Emma Dent Coad. It highlights inequality and the problems it creates, rather than focusing on the narrower issue of fire safety failures at Grenfell. The Tories are trying to create a narrative that only "absolute poverty" is meaningful. That how conditions compare to the poorest parts of the world is more important than the gap between the poorest and the richest of those that live side by side. All the evidence suggests they are wrong. There is evidence that high inequality leads to poorer health outcomes, for the richest as well as the poorest. There is also evidence that living on the bottom rung of an unequal society, however rich or poor overall, creates a great deal of stress, that more equal societies are better for mental wellbeing. Closing the equality gap is something everyone on the left agree on but unfortunately those in the media and many in the wider public still seem to need constant reminding that civilised societies that are pleasant societies for everyone to live in are societies that leave no one behind.

People parroting ‘supply and demand’ to explain the ills of the housing market is precisely the problem in the housing debate: which demand? Which price? It’s vital we use the right price measures to avoid drawing the wrong policy conclusions.

PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Outstanding piece from Zoe Williams

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It’s true: Conservative governments really do kill people

The government is considering granting Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe diplomatic status as a means of securing her release, Downing Street said.

David Davis, the Brexit secretary, will make a statement to MPs this afternoon after last week’s Brexit talks. (Both quotes are from Politics Live, Guardian)

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Sorry - didn't see (or absorb) your earlier post with the link to the Zoe Williams article. I'd just finished reading it (the article) when I blundered in.

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Richard Ratcliffe is calling for his wife to be offered diplomatic protection, and the Foreign Office is considering this option. That is not the same as her being offered diplomatic status, as I wrongly said earlier. I’ve amended the earlier posts to make that clear. (Andrew Sparrow, Politics Live, Guardian)

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I'm almost tempted to say that, hey, at least utter shitLords like Lloyd Webber never pretend to be anything else.

PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Hmmm

Nicky Morgan is on the war path.

May is "tin eared" and Johnson should be sacked.

Emily Thornberry may not have been so far from the mark!

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I'm almost tempted to say that, hey, at least utter shitLords like Lloyd Webber never pretend to be anything else.

I foolishly read some of the replies under that, eventually came to a good one.
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Mrs Morgan said Osborne has been “a very good constituency MP while he was chancellor.” she described his new role as “the ultimate second job”, adding: “We want talented, interesting people to take on these big jobs.”

Mrs Morgan said on ITV’s Robert Peston show: “George is very much about being the voice of the liberal Conservative party. When you’re fired as we all were last summer, what did they expect, the government? That we all just going to disappear?

“No, we are going to make our voices heard, whether it’s me writing articles, whether it’s George being editor of the Evening Standard.

“There’s a liberal Conservatism point of view to be talked about and we’re going to do that.”

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Mrs Morgan said Osborne has been “a very good constituency MP while he was chancellor.” she described his new role as “the ultimate second job”, adding: “We want talented, interesting people to take on these big jobs.”

Mrs Morgan said on ITV’s Robert Peston show: “George is very much about being the voice of the liberal Conservative party. When you’re fired as we all were last summer, what did they expect, the government? That we all just going to disappear?

“No, we are going to make our voices heard, whether it’s me writing articles, whether it’s George being editor of the Evening Standard.

“There’s a liberal Conservatism point of view to be talked about and we’re going to do that.”

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Julian Lewis , a Conservative, says as Churchillian, Boris Johnson will appreciate that this has not been his finest hour. But he urges the opposition not to play politics with this issue. Referring to Tulip Siddiq’s comment this morning (see 9.17am) , and the way it has been reporting, he says if the Iranians think they can get rid of a foreign secretary by jailing her for longer, they have an incentive to do that.

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"Its ironic, Redwood was forced to give this advise to his paid clients because not to do so would be to mislead them which has legal penalties.
He is under no such constraint when advising the electorate."

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