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@Willow UBI musings don't fill me with hope,in that regard.Maybe they are thinking on salvageabilty lines.
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An early appearance of PF there among the crowd.
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EU and me: writers reminisce on their relationship with Europe

Sarah Perry, Bee Wilson, Hari Kunzru, Simon Garfield, Afua Hirsch, Val McDermid and Robert Macfarlane

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Wonderful pieces from the authors
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Angry and moving contributions
One of the best things I've read in a long time
I'll have to get a hold of the entire book
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HindleA wrote:An early appearance of PF there among the crowd.
You sent the gin
wha' you expec'?
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Attending to perceived problems that largely don't exist and creating them,does seem to be a salient feature.
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Roots remix or remake of "Din Da Da" / "Trommeltanz" originally by George Kranz, a one-hit wonder
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One of the lorry drivers for PF's gin consignment sprained an ankle on escape.
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Willow904 wrote: Charities and other organisations are as bad/worse for "agreeing in principle". I wish they'd all get off the fence and start condemning it too.
A very pertinent point.
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Gauke entering the fray on twitter re.Couling/Lewis.
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DWP Ministers tend to know about as much about the system as my non existent pet rabbit versus Paul Lewis,"difficult one".
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I recently posted, perhaps here, that I could see the attraction in a "universal" credit if it really made things simpler for everyone.

Someone wiser than me pointed out that most people only need one or maybe two benefits at a time, so in fact for many people they'd just rather have that benefit working well for them and the universalness was only really any use for the government.

All along I've been of the opinion, having read around quite a bit, that in any case it will always be unworkable because at its heart it needs real time salary updates from employers, which is massively problematic.
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In short I think it's almost irrelevant whether it's right in principle because demonstrably it can never work properly for the recipients.
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We had several more but FWIW this would at most have been reduced by one by UC.It only covers some and even then means-tested versions.
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It depends what you mean/include as benefits of course.The State Pension is,as I boringly state but for a purpose in the same category of CA,ESA etc,acceptance that you are not expected to work/restricted earnings circumstantially.
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HindleA wrote:One of the lorry drivers for PF's gin consignment sprained an ankle on escape.
He got off very lightly.
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Certainly looks somewhat relieved.
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Keepin' the dancefloor full

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Stoke-on-Trent homeless would risk £1k fine in tent ban plan
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Night night.
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Hospitals attack ‘barking mad’ NHS target to manage winter crisis
Official edicts to banish long trolley waits and treatment in corridors are deluded, say trusts
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Hammond’s budget big five: cuts, pay, housing, roads and students
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Zimbabwe’s ruling party expected to sack Robert Mugabe on Sunday
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House prices aren’t the issue – land prices are
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A thousand nurseries close as free childcare scheme falters
Providers resorting to ‘unethical’ practices to replace funding shortfall
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Kenny Dalglish: ‘As long as we’re living we won’t have closure on Hillsborough’
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Northcote byelection: Greens' Lidia Thorpe takes Melbourne seat from Labor
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The Guardian view on Yemen: a catastrophe that shames Britain
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Budget 2017: Philip Hammond to announce boost for driverless cars
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Autism concern over home schooling rise in Wales
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The Observer view on Philip Hammond’s budget
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The state of the Tory party is the only grand reveal of this budget
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Template letter for claimants who may be affected and entitled to arrears of ESA
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Good morfternoon.
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I think there's a few cricket fans here, you might enjoy this. icymi
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2017/ ... -vic-marks" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Thirty-five years ago the England all-rounder Vic Marks and Guardian cricket correspondent Matthew Engel went on their first Ashes tour. As Marks prepares to travel to Australia again, now doing Engel’s former job, they swap stories
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Jacob Rees Mogg has just said (on the BBC Sunday Politics) that we (the Conservative cabinet and MPs) should "stand together in the best interests of the Government". Or at least I'm pretty sure that that's what he said. He didn't say "and sod the rest of you" although he might just as well have done.

Did anyone else hear the interview?

And Philip Hammond, doing the grand tour of the studios, was very weary-sounding - even by his standards.



Edited - "as" for "have".
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I've just listened to the Jacob Rees Mogg interview again - and yes, he did say it.
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There are no unemployed in UK, says Hammond in TV gaffe

Chancellor accused of being out of touch after making slip-up as he prepares for politically difficult budget later this week (Guardian)
Yes, I heard that (but forgot to mention it).

I got the impression that he just wanted to go back to bed.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... d-tv-gaffe
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Totally irrelevant - but the Christmas ads this year are mostly dreadful, despite the eye-watering sums spent on them. The Waitrose one is the best by a (snowy) country mile and the Debenhams one is a worthy second place.
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Exclusive: David Davis could quit because 'he is being frozen out on Brexit strategy' by civil servants

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/11 ... egy-civil/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Any credibility, or just Telegraph mischief making.
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AngryAsWell wrote:Exclusive: David Davis could quit because 'he is being frozen out on Brexit strategy' by civil servants

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/11 ... egy-civil/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Any credibility, or just Telegraph mischief making.
I always got the impression that the less David Davis has to read (or write) the better he likes it. But I suppose his pride might be dented.
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We shouldn’t even be contemplating leaving the single market
Whitehall trade expert Martin Donnelly writes an open letter to parliamentarians

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Someone should tell Nigel Farage that the role of Poirot in the remake of "Murder on the Orient Express" has been taken.
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I wrote this in a cold, hard fury.
Threats of violence against me = tip of the iceberg.
The bullies are winning. Why? Why are we letting them??

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PorFavor wrote:
AngryAsWell wrote:Exclusive: David Davis could quit because 'he is being frozen out on Brexit strategy' by civil servants

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/11 ... egy-civil/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Any credibility, or just Telegraph mischief making.
I always got the impression that the less David Davis has to read (or write) the better he likes it. But I suppose his pride might be dented.
Could David Davis be the fall guy?

He failed. It's all his fault. And err it's too late to leave now.
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Thatcher and Lamont were criticised for using higher unemployment as an economic tool for controlling inflation regardless of the human consequence. Nobody is criticising Hammond for doing that, particularly at a time when Britain is the “jobs factory of Europe” and continues to attract skilled European migrants.
My emphasis. God forbid eh?
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