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Total Bastards, that's indefensible.
There's a link to gov.uk explanation of payment cycles -
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When you have 5 weekly earnings payments within an assessment period, your income may be too high to qualify for Universal Credit in that month.
If this happens you will be notified that your income is too high and you will no longer get Universal Credit.
You can re-apply the following month as you should only get 4 wage payments in your assessment period then.
You will need to be prepared for a month when you get 5 wage payments in one assessment period and budget for a potential change in your monthly Universal Credit payments.

So taking the weekly average over the period was too complicated?


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Some time ago and not quite same circumstances,I had a weekly maximum limit earnings but applied to one.This could cause potential problems at xmas,bank holidays etc with enhanced pay and non tandem with pay rises(hah) and limit (or not) changes.I know it was/is bone of contention and can't honestly remember the method of averaging out etc,but I sometimes did go over but only once disallowed in retrospect,some years later for one week I presume on "cleansing" operation.

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Mentioning going back years.....

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We can't fix social care if we think it's just for older people

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I guess that's OK as there are no real issues with Ireland and borders n'stuff is there?

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https://www.theguardian.com/society/2017/nov/20/labour-slams-universal-credit-as-not-fit-for-purpose

Still talking about it being fixable, unfortunately.

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Thread.
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gilsey wrote:
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https://www.theguardian.com/society/2017/nov/20/labour-slams-universal-credit-as-not-fit-for-purpose

Still talking about it being fixable, unfortunately.
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...Abrahams said there was increasing evidence that UC “is not fit for purpose – and Labour believes the budget is a chance to fix it”. The original aims of the system – to simplify social security support, ensure people were always better off in work than on benefits and reduce child poverty – were laudable, and had been supported by Labour, Abrahams wrote.

“But UC is failing to deliver on its objectives, as we have heard from respected charities including Child Poverty Action Group, Trussell Trust, Citizens Advice and Gingerbread. Even former government advisers, civil servants and UC’s own architects are now critical of the scheme,” she added. “As it is being rolled out, universal credit is pushing people into debt and rent arrears, with many people in social and private rented housing being served eviction notices.”
I think what Labour's Abrahams says here is good. The formal rigmarole apparently necessary is frustrating. Abrahams wrote Hammond ahead of his budget, telling him UC won't do with evidence supporting why not. Asking Hammond to use the budget to fix UC seems naive to me but I think it's protocol. I regret these time-wasting political antics are required. If I'm wrong about any of this, let me know.

I'd likely use unparliamentary language over this government's series of bad leadership decisions. Tory media then calls my intervention communist guerilla warfare demands my exile if not worse.


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Not quite getting that,it is her job,not least to put pressure on by any means possible.To not do so would be negligence.I am nobody I wrote/write to Ministers via MP etc with concerns zero expectatons but the replies in themselves provided evidence as to the level of ignorance,attitude and unjustifiable illogical nature of reforms,the effects of which were the opposite of their presention.At the bare minimum I have/had proof they were lying.

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I like that we have gone back two years in time. If only we could do that in reality


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We should be back to the future now ;-)


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Being a lowly civil servant I always like to see how the senior bods manage to spin the annual Staff survey results in to something positive. They never let me down by ignoring the most importan thing, pay and conditions

https://civilservice.blog.gov.uk/2017/1 ... e-results/


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Letter to the chancellor.
Pleased to see the paragraph beginning 'However, I am worried...'. Sorry can't find anywhere I can copy and paste it from.

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I'm still waiting for those impact assessments . . .


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I think if you look at the ones existing/previous ones eg.this may increase the risk of homelessness,people borrowing from family subject to "behaviourial change",applied overwhelmingly to those not expected to work,may give a clue as to why they prefer to use "evidence",according to the simplest cherry picked cases as regards UC.

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In context, I don't think Hammond said anything remotely objectionable. He was clearly just addressing the (Luddite) question of what happens when a particular kind of job (here drivers) disappears because of technological change.

For those who don't like that view, here is a tweet you all will like.

https://twitter.com/daily_politics/stat ... 1766332416

Kinnock's face is, indeed, priceless.


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Would certainly like to have seen his face when the GE exit poll was released.......


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How virtual reality is taking dementia patients back to the future
The Wayback project recreates coronation day in 1953 on 3D film using actors, period costumes and props, right down to fish-paste sandwiches. The effect is to bring back vivid memories for those struggling with the present

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AnatolyKasparov wrote:
Would certainly like to have seen his face when the GE exit poll was released.......



Errrr, that is his face when the exit poll was released.


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Would certainly like to have seen his face when the GE exit poll was released.......



Errrr, that is his face when the exit poll was released.


Ah, I get you. Thought it was last year's leadership election :oops:


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https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles ... gs-clipped


Merkel’s Coalition Failure Is Bad News for May

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In other news, I see that the TERF wars are in full swing again :roll:


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Thanks for sharing that clip SH. Amazing. Kind of Gogglebox GE style ;-)


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Stagger Lee wrote:
Being a lowly civil servant I always like to see how the senior bods manage to spin the annual Staff survey results in to something positive. They never let me down by ignoring the most importan thing, pay and conditions

https://civilservice.blog.gov.uk/2017/1 ... e-results/

I've a great admiration for civil servants. I respect the work of civil servants as much as the work of teachers and doctors, for example.


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Belief that customs system will be ready for Brexit ‘borders on insanity’

Logistics company CEVA says delays could lead to ‘calamitous situation’ at Dover, but warns it may already be too late

Leigh Pomlett, the executive director of CEVA Group, which specialises in road, air and ocean-going freight, said Downing Street and the Treasury did not understand how difficult it would be to have a system in place in 15 months’ time, when the UK leaves the EU.

“It is just the urgency of this that worries me. It takes me longer to negotiate a supply chain contract than we have here. Arguably, it is already too late,” he said. (Guardian)


https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/nov/20/belief-that-customs-system-will-be-ready-for-brexit-borders-on-insanity


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Labour claiming @Freeman_George has resigned from his policy role at No10. Big news if true. Was one of the party's leading voices of reform.

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George Freeman has resigned as chair of the prime minister's policy board in an column in @ConHome. He's still chair of the Conserative Policy Forum, which is different.


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Lucy Fisher - you should be embarrassed, *genuinely* embarrassed.

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George Freeman has resigned as chair of the prime minister's policy board in an column in @ConHome. He's still chair of the Conserative Policy Forum, which is different.

He says he's resigned from the former to focus on the latter.


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Electoral Commission launches investigation into whether Vote Leave, Veterans for Britain and Darren Grimes, now deputy ed of Brexit Central, breached campaign finance rule during referendum


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George Freeman has resigned as chair of the prime minister's policy board in an column in @ConHome. He's still chair of the Conserative Policy Forum, which is different.

He says he's resigned from the former to focus on the latter.



Party policy in more urgent need of sorting out than government policy?

There's one possible reason for that...

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https://www.electoralcommission.org.uk/ ... in-limited

"New information has come to light" according to the Electoral Commission.


Edited to add that this is the case the Good Law Project threatened to take the Electoral Commission to judicial review over, I believe.

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So, it turns out George Freeman announced he was standing down as Theresa May's policy chief this morning in a piece for ConsHome, in what was the most low-key resignation of all time.


:D

So interesting that hardly anyone read to the end.

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November 20, 2017


So that's nice and clear then :?

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https://www.opendemocracy.net/uk/brexit ... nders-fine

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An MP has today asked the government why the DUP’s main Brexit funder was fined £6,000, after openDemocracy’s revelations on Saturday .


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Willow904 wrote:
https://www.electoralcommission.org.uk/i-am-a/journalist/electoral-commission-media-centre/news-releases-donations/electoral-commission-statement-regarding-vote-leave-limited,-mr-darren-grimes-and-veterans-for-britain-limited

"New information has come to light" according to the Electoral Commission.


Edited to add that this is the case the Good Law Project threatened to take the Electoral Commission to judicial review over, I believe.

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whether or not Mr Grimes may have delivered a return that was incorrect in relation to a donation he received from Vote Leave and related campaign spending;
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whether or not Vote Leave delivered a return that was incorrect in relation to campaign spending;
whether or not Vote Leave exceeded its spending limit in the referendum.


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