Monday 27th November 2017

Post by **refitman** » Mon 27 Nov, 2017 7:10 am

Morning all.

SpinningHugo · Post by **SpinningHugo** » Mon 27 Nov, 2017 7:37 am

Very interesting on housing policy

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/busi ... -vpnw59jc7" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Housebuilding outstripping increase in number of households shows not as simple as lack of supply.

I'd prefer a more London focused analysis, but very good and certainly a challenge to the lazy assumptions of someone like me.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Mon 27 Nov, 2017 8:47 am

Good morfternoon.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Mon 27 Nov, 2017 8:49 am

Morning

https://www.theguardian.com/business/20 ... hite-paper" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

White paper to set out industrial strategy in bid to boost UK productivity

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Mon 27 Nov, 2017 8:52 am

https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 ... of-despair" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

tinybgoat · Post by **tinybgoat** » Mon 27 Nov, 2017 9:16 am

SpinningHugo wrote:Very interesting on housing policy

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/busi ... -vpnw59jc7" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Housebuilding outstripping increase in number of households shows not as simple as lack of supply.

I'd prefer a more London focused analysis, but very good and certainly a challenge to the lazy assumptions of someone like me.

Thanks,
It's Behind paywall, but Paul Johnson's looks to be twittering, sections of it
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RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Mon 27 Nov, 2017 9:31 am

Morning all.

Kate Hoey seems to have gone all Trump on us...

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HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Mon 27 Nov, 2017 9:38 am

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-42098645" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Ironic laugh on the usual "split",which isn't because of course the Coalition introduced default bespoke targeted charging on the poorest sick/disabled/carers,unsurprisingly some who receive social care at the same time Councils increased for many receivers the amount charged that was already being specifically applied.The "minimum the law allows",is easilly "adaptable"

discordantharmony · Post by **discordantharmony** » Mon 27 Nov, 2017 9:45 am

HindleA wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/society/201 ... of-despair

Good Morning Signor HindleA et Al........

Was just reading that to which you have just linked. FF seems shocked to have recieved 3000 replies when they were only expecting 100. A veritable tidal wave indeed.

Do politicians look at things like this and think 'Cant be that bad really - only had 100 letters of disappointment in this policy - sure sounds like a winner - NEXT'........

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Mon 27 Nov, 2017 10:04 am

Buongiorno

chi è Al?

discordantharmony · Post by **discordantharmony** » Mon 27 Nov, 2017 10:24 am

HindleA wrote:Buongiorno

chi è Al?

I just KNEW you were gonna ask that........

Paul Simon AKA Chevy Chase

SpinningHugo · Post by **SpinningHugo** » Mon 27 Nov, 2017 10:27 am

tinybgoat wrote:
SpinningHugo wrote:Very interesting on housing policy

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/busi ... -vpnw59jc7" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Housebuilding outstripping increase in number of households shows not as simple as lack of supply.

I'd prefer a more London focused analysis, but very good and certainly a challenge to the lazy assumptions of someone like me.
Thanks,
It's Behind paywall, but Paul Johnson's looks to be twittering, sections of it
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It is up on the IFS website now

https://www.ifs.org.uk/publications/10192" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Very intereting.

not that either party seems remotely interested in a serious housing policy unfortunately.

NonOxCol · Post by **NonOxCol** » Mon 27 Nov, 2017 10:31 am

Morning. Apologies if this was already highlighted yesterday. It makes an eloquent point, I think.

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NonOxCol · Post by **NonOxCol** » Mon 27 Nov, 2017 10:40 am

RogerOThornhill wrote:Morning all.

Kate Hoey seems to have gone all Trump on us...

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Kate Hoey on @BBCr4today ‘the ROI will have to pay for the border’

Clearly no point in Nick Pettigrew or anyone running a 'Worst Labour MP' World Cup on Twitter, is there? Bloody landslide.

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Mon 27 Nov, 2017 11:12 am

I can think of one or two other contenders tbf, but yes she will be hard to beat.

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Mon 27 Nov, 2017 11:50 am

In other news, the gas people are putting in new gas pipes under the street and to the houses in our road. The stone slabs in our front garden are looking a bit of a mess right now. I just hope they don't have to damage our Edwardian mosaiced path.

And it's noisy...

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Mon 27 Nov, 2017 11:58 am

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Just turned on twitter and it appears Kate Hoey is so stupid they've had to call a royal wedding to distract us all.

Willow904 · Post by **Willow904** » Mon 27 Nov, 2017 12:09 pm

RogerOThornhill wrote:In other news, the gas people are putting in new gas pipes under the street and to the houses in our road. The stone slabs in our front garden are looking a bit of a mess right now. I just hope they don't have to damage our Edwardian mosaiced path.

And it's noisy...

It strikes me that the Edwardian mosaic path would have been there when they put the original gas pipe in, so if they managed not to damage it last time there's no excuse for damaging it this time. Still, if they're anything like the cowboys BT outsource to, I can see why you're worried.

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Mon 27 Nov, 2017 12:17 pm

Willow904 wrote:
RogerOThornhill wrote:In other news, the gas people are putting in new gas pipes under the street and to the houses in our road. The stone slabs in our front garden are looking a bit of a mess right now. I just hope they don't have to damage our Edwardian mosaiced path.

And it's noisy...
It strikes me that the Edwardian mosaic path would have been there when they put the original gas pipe in, so if they managed not to damage it last time there's no excuse for damaging it this time. Still, if they're anything like the cowboys BT outsource to, I can see why you're worried.

Yes it should be OK but because of the pipe size they're having to fiddle about more than they would have hoped. They're also installing an outside meter which is on the other side of the path.

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Mon 27 Nov, 2017 12:48 pm

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Just turned on twitter and it appears Kate Hoey is so stupid they've had to call a royal wedding to distract us all.

Quite a lot of the chatter is about whether The Donald will attend

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Mon 27 Nov, 2017 12:58 pm

News leading with a royal something or other on the front page, I wonder about the important news that isn't

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Mon 27 Nov, 2017 12:58 pm

Good-afternoon, everyone

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Mon 27 Nov, 2017 1:08 pm

https://www.theguardian.com/social-care ... are_btn_tw" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

People with disabilities have the right to good health too

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Mon 27 Nov, 2017 1:09 pm

citizenJA wrote:News leading with a royal something or other on the front page, I wonder about the important news that isn't

At the start of the day, the new industrial strategy was seen to be fairly important but that seems to be slipping off the radar.

Given that they apparently got engaged earlier in the month, it's odd timing - I would assume No 10 knew when the announcement would be made.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Mon 27 Nov, 2017 1:16 pm

https://www.lawgazette.co.uk/news/supre ... 55.article" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Supreme Court ruling on litigants in person could redraw CPR

(Civil Procedure Rules)

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Mon 27 Nov, 2017 1:18 pm

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Hearing rumours DExEU will be handing Brexit impact statements (or whatever they want to call them) to Brexit committee today.

Redacted to the point of making them meaningless I would expect.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Mon 27 Nov, 2017 1:19 pm

https://www.lawgazette.co.uk/news/law-s ... 57.article" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

AngryAsWell · Post by **AngryAsWell** » Mon 27 Nov, 2017 1:26 pm

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BBC subtitles make it look like Jeremy Corbyn is congratulating ‘Harry and Hezbollah’ on royal engagement

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Why? How hard can it be ?

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Mon 27 Nov, 2017 1:41 pm

Tory minister Greg Clark wouldn't give a straight yes or no confirming his name

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Mon 27 Nov, 2017 1:42 pm

If you keep reading the Sun, it'll make you go blind

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Mon 27 Nov, 2017 2:05 pm

I now have a hole in the floorboards where they're going to run a new pipe from the front of the house. Dining room door shut to keep the cat from going down the hole...as happened when our bathroom was being done. I remember my daughter calling out "Quick! Noddy's down the hole!"

More as we get it.

AngryAsWell · Post by **AngryAsWell** » Mon 27 Nov, 2017 2:10 pm

citizenJA wrote:If you keep reading the Sun, it'll make you go blind

I don't read the sun, never have.
The error belongs entirely to the BBC in this case

55DegreesNorth · Post by **55DegreesNorth** » Mon 27 Nov, 2017 2:14 pm

RogerOThornhill wrote:I now have a hole in the floorboards where they're going to run a new pipe from the front of the house. Dining room door shut to keep the cat from going down the hole...as happened when our bathroom was being done. I remember my daughter calling out "Quick! Noddy's down the hole!"

More as we get it.

When Northumbrian Water replaced my lead water main, their burrowing machine embedded itself underground. They had to close the street and dig up half the road and a pavement to a depth of about 5 feet to retrieve it. We were popular with the commuters.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Mon 27 Nov, 2017 2:25 pm

I'm sure I've posted this before, but anyway -

the reporter said, "The area is now a cycle path," and the BBC subtitle read, "The area is now a psychopath". True. I laughed like a drain.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Mon 27 Nov, 2017 2:31 pm

AngryAsWell wrote:
citizenJA wrote:If you keep reading the Sun, it'll make you go blind
I don't read the sun, never have.
The error belongs entirely to the BBC in this case

It was meant as a joke, I never thought you did

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Mon 27 Nov, 2017 2:44 pm

Not sure I have heard a drain laugh to be honest.

For longer than I am willing to admit I thought I was singing "Vicious old men"

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citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Mon 27 Nov, 2017 2:51 pm

@AngryAsWell
May I get you some tea or would you prefer coffee?
I've some honey toast I'd like to share with you

AngryAsWell · Post by **AngryAsWell** » Mon 27 Nov, 2017 3:01 pm

citizenJA wrote:@AngryAsWell
May I get you some tea or would you prefer coffee?
I've some honey toast I'd like to share with you

Coffee would be perfect thank you, and I love honey on toast

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Mon 27 Nov, 2017 3:04 pm

Tea,two sugars and leave the teabag in please.

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Mon 27 Nov, 2017 3:11 pm

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Mon 27 Nov, 2017 3:31 pm

I love you, friends

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Mon 27 Nov, 2017 3:47 pm

How cold it is today where you are?

Bloody freezing here

AngryAsWell · Post by **AngryAsWell** » Mon 27 Nov, 2017 3:53 pm

AnatolyKasparov wrote:How cold it is today where you are?

Bloody freezing here

'bout the same as you - freezing

AngryAsWell · Post by **AngryAsWell** » Mon 27 Nov, 2017 3:55 pm

Computer science GCSE in disarray after tasks leaked online
By Hannah Richardson

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AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Mon 27 Nov, 2017 4:17 pm

AngryAsWell wrote:
AnatolyKasparov wrote:How cold it is today where you are?

Bloody freezing here
'bout the same as you - freezing

Just got caught in a genuinely wintry shower, too

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Mon 27 Nov, 2017 4:33 pm

AngryAsWell wrote:
AnatolyKasparov wrote:How cold it is today where you are?

Bloody freezing here
'bout the same as you - freezing

Yep
so cold it hurts

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Mon 27 Nov, 2017 4:33 pm

Freezing cold and peeing down here.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Mon 27 Nov, 2017 4:36 pm

Stay together, everyone

NonOxCol · Post by **NonOxCol** » Mon 27 Nov, 2017 4:41 pm

I found it - the tweet that could actually make me give even less of a stuff about the royal wedding than I already did:

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tinybgoat · Post by **tinybgoat** » Mon 27 Nov, 2017 5:39 pm

https://news.sky.com/story/labour-issue ... s-11146862" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
"Labour issues contempt threat over Brexit impact papers"

Labour has told ministers to meet the deadline for handing over dozens of studies on the impact of Brexit or risk being held in contempt of Parliament.
Sir Keir Starmer, Labour's shadow Brexit secretary, also threatened to take action if any of the DExEU papers are redacted.