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Morning all.
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Morning

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Homeowners trapped by ‘fleecehold’ – the new cash cow for developers
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Senate Republicans pass sweeping overhaul of US tax code
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Government response to report on Brexit and health and social care
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Good morfternoon.
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Morning all. Shopping done and just realised that the test is a day/night so watching the last dozen overs.

No-frills private school delayed AGAIN

https://schoolsweek.co.uk/no-frills-pri ... yed-again/
The Independent Grammar School: Durham was due to open in September, offering parents a “traditional private education” without the “frills” for just £52 a week.

However, with a month to go, its principal Chris Gray told parents that the Department for Education hadn’t responded to its application, and said the school would instead open in January.

Now he and his business partner James Tooley have been forced to apologise to parents once again, after inspectors found issues with the building, including technical problems with the toilets.
Now read to the end - those last two paragraphs...
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FFS
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Haven't read all of this but this passage said by Nick Clegg was tweeted by Michael Deacon.

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NC The irony, of course, is that, in areas like London, where immigration is at its highest, the Brexit vote was lowest, and in some parts of the country where the foreign-born population is lowest, the Brexit vote was the highest.

Years ago, before I became an MP, I was knocking on doors in Chesterfield, Derbyshire – this was at the height of the controversy about asylum seekers being dispersed around the country when Tony Blair was in power. The tabloid newspapers were going nuts about it every day. I remember speaking to a guy leaning on the fence outside his house and saying: “Any chance you’ll vote for the Liberal Democrats?” And he said: “No way.” And I said: “Why not?” And he said: “Because of all these asylum seekers.” And I knew for a fact that not a single asylum seeker had been dispersed to Chesterfield. So I said to him: “Oh, have you seen these asylum seekers in the supermarket or the GP’s surgery?” And he said something to me that has remained with me ever since. He said: “No, I haven’t seen any of them, but I know they’re everywhere.” You can’t dismiss the fear, but how on earth are you supposed to respond to that?
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HindleA wrote:FFS
Sometimes, this is the only appropriate response.
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RogerOThornhill wrote:Morning all. Shopping done and just realised that the test is a day/night so watching the last dozen overs.

No-frills private school delayed AGAIN

https://schoolsweek.co.uk/no-frills-pri ... yed-again/
The Independent Grammar School: Durham was due to open in September, offering parents a “traditional private education” without the “frills” for just £52 a week.

However, with a month to go, its principal Chris Gray told parents that the Department for Education hadn’t responded to its application, and said the school would instead open in January.

Now he and his business partner James Tooley have been forced to apologise to parents once again, after inspectors found issues with the building, including technical problems with the toilets.
Now read to the end - those last two paragraphs...
I probably told you I was briefly a private school teacher, 20 years ago. There was talk around then of "no frills" private schools. I don't think anything much happened. The Head at my school said, partly in jest, that the cost he was most concerned about was the extra teachers he was always hiring. Teachers aren't usually considered a frill.
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Not sure,some of the most poignant rememberances to me are texts/responses seemingly mundane but contextually significant.Tended to keep everything,even post it notes-which was largely the way we corresponded when doing the every second w/end brief encounter at home thing.
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If we treat plutocracy as democracy, democracy dies
Those still plugging quietly away trying to get the recommendations from the original Leveson inquiry properly implemented and Leveson part two instigated have the right idea. We, as a democracy, shouldn't let it go just because it suits the press. Ed Miliband maybe shouldn't have made his intentions to take on the press so clear, maybe he should have tried to win power first and then take them to task, but he certainly had the right intentions, if not the best plan. The fate of the Leveson recommendations was possibly one of the most important outcomes of the 2015 election, alongside the EU referendum.
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Some good news for Birmingham, from a couple of weeks back.

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A total of £250m in government funding is to be used to extend the Midland Metro, it has been confirmed.

Whitehall has provided the money to the West Midlands Combined Authority (WMCA) to invest in improved transport infrastructure in the region.

The funds will be used for the extension of the Midland Metro from Wednesbury to Brierley Hill.

It will run through Dudley to the DY5 Enterprise Zone at Brierley Hill, which is expected to create 7,000 jobs, linking both towns to the rail network for the first time since the 1960s.
The Midland Metro underperformed when it was introduced and likely dented confidence in tram systems. But much more positive now.
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.@DavidDavisMP I’m a little confused: I thought you were leading the UK to sunny uplands and amazing economic opportunities through Brexit. Why would you want to resign from that glorious task because Damian Green watched porn?
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"Mr Barnier, hello? Can you give us a bit more time? The boss has just resigned. No, nothing you did, but he's done it in solidarity with his friend who got sacked for looking at porn in the office".
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Willow904 wrote:https://mainlymacro.blogspot.co.uk/2017 ... cracy.html
If we treat plutocracy as democracy, democracy dies
Those still plugging quietly away trying to get the recommendations from the original Leveson inquiry properly implemented and Leveson part two instigated have the right idea. We, as a democracy, shouldn't let it go just because it suits the press. Ed Miliband maybe shouldn't have made his intentions to take on the press so clear, maybe he should have tried to win power first and then take them to task, but he certainly had the right intentions, if not the best plan. The fate of the Leveson recommendations was possibly one of the most important outcomes of the 2015 election, alongside the EU referendum.
His point about the right wing press, that it doesn't matter if their circulation is falling as long as the likes of the BBC allow them to set the agenda, should be made more often.

I used to take comfort in the fact tabloid sales were declining, but now realise it is unfortunately a bit more complicated than that.
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Government state pension top up scheme branded a ‘failure’
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HindleA wrote:Not sure,some of the most poignant rememberances to me are texts/responses seemingly mundane but contextually significant.Tended to keep everything,even post it notes-which was largely the way we corresponded when doing the every second w/end brief encounter at home thing.
I think the immediacy of (personal) e-mails is a boon - provided as much care is taken over the words as you would in a letter or, if you are confident that if you type them as if you were speaking in every-day conversation, the recipient knows your "style". Texts I'm not so keen on - in fact, I tend to treat mobile 'phones as a sort of field radio apparatus. But yer actual personal, hand-written letter can often be a special thing for both the sender and the receiver.


Edited - (speaking of care, as I was)! Any road up, added a comma.

Edited (again) - general puctuation overhaul
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Tubby Isaacs wrote:"Mr Barnier, hello? Can you give us a bit more time? The boss has just resigned. No, nothing you did, but he's done it in solidarity with his friend who got sacked for looking at porn in the office".
I suppose if that's what it takes to get the A50 period extended, I could bear the humiliation. :D
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Tubby Isaacs wrote:"Mr Barnier, hello? Can you give us a bit more time? The boss has just resigned. No, nothing you did, but he's done it in solidarity with his friend who got sacked for looking at porn in the office".
I've seen quite a lot of people trying to brush "watching porn at work" under the carpet. It baffles me that it can be considered an acceptable thing, if only from the point of view that, if you are watching porn, you're not doing your job*.

*Unless your job is reviewing porn.
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There's a very good argument that Green shouldn't have been raided. But then again, as you say, watching porn porn at work isn't acceptable. And he seems to have lied about it a few weeks ago.

I'd like to see his reaction if his civil servants leaked like he was encouraging them to do when he was in opposition.
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Damian Green case: police criticised for making porn revelations
This case raises some interesting points:
“If you are attacked in the street and, for instance, happen to be with somebody who is not your wife, it’s really important that that is not revealed by the police and they concentrate on what was the incident,” he said, adding that to do otherwise could damage the confidence of victims.
Fair enough. Is this a fair comparison, though? What people get up to in their own time is one thing. But the computer was not in Green's home. There is a public interest to this story and as the policeman is retired, I see no reason why he shouldn't be able to share this story with the press, provided it is true. Therefore I see no reason why it should be different to any other allegation made in the press. If Damien Green feels he has been libelled he is free to sue. Of course, if he had supported Leveson's recommendations, he would have far more protections against malicious stories in the media, so he only has himself to blame if it costs him an arm and a leg to prove his innocence.
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Ladies and Gentleman, Rober Jenrick, Tory MP for Newark. We're going ahead with Brexit to avoid being embarrassed.

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That's like that bit in Macbeth where he says he can't be bothered with stopping being a murdering tyrant.

Actually, Jenrick does have a point about "social fractures" in the next bit. I think EEA is likely the best option from here. Slow decline rather than over the cliff.
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Tubby Isaacs wrote:That's like that bit in Macbeth where he says he can't be bothered with stopping being a murdering tyrant.

Actually, Jenrick does have a point about "social fractures" in the next bit. I think EEA is likely the best option from here. Slow decline rather than over the cliff.
I'm not sure that a "slow decline" is better than "over the cliff" (although I would prefer neither).






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tinybgoat wrote:[youtube]Z3sLhnDJJn0[/youtube
You keep saying that word...
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That reminds me of the Lib Dems buying a bank in The Thick of It. Possibly my favourite episode...

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But the DUP has called on the UK government to get tough with Dublin, with Ian Paisley MP urging Downing Street to stop “pussyfooting” around and “shake their cage” in EU talks.
Former DUP leader and first minister Peter Robinson also weighed in, saying “the south needs to wind its neck in”.
He said Dublin politicians had taken to “lecturing the UK,” doing “significant harm to north/south relations”.
“Sensible solutions can be found and positive outcomes are more likely to be reached if a spirit of friendship and mutual understanding exists,” he said.
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RogerOThornhill wrote:That reminds me of the Lib Dems buying a bank in The Thick of It. Possibly my favourite episode...
That's one of my favourite bits too.

I also had a good Thick of It/ In The Loop take with Jenrick's letter, where he says stopping Brexit is "inconceivable".

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Another classic from Stephen Daisley, I see :D
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Good-evening, everyone
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citizenJA wrote:computer is insufferably slow
Ah! A kindred spirit . . .
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Matthew Miller Retweeted Donald J. Trump

Oh my god, he just admitted to obstruction of justice. If Trump knew Flynn lied to the FBI when he asked Comey to let it go, then there is your case.
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PorFavor wrote:
citizenJA wrote:computer is insufferably slow
Ah! A kindred spirit . . .
turned it off then on
working much better now
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Trump's tweet indicates he knew that Flynn lied to the FBI when he fired him, but that wasn't reported by The Washington Post until three days after his dismissal. At the time, Trump cited only that Flynn had misled Vice President Pence.
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It is a shame because his actions during the transition were lawful. There was nothing to hide!
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The White House press office referred questions to Trump's lawyer, Ty Cobb, who didn’t immediately respond to a request for comment.

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had to fire him for this reason, or that reason...
'Whatever', says Trump
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My staff log onto my computer on my desk with my login everyday. Including interns on exchange programmes. For the officer on @BBCNews just now to claim that the computer on Greens desk was accessed and therefore it was Green is utterly preposterous !!
If I'd let someone else use my login I'd have faced disciplinary procedures - simply not on.
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#Comey


To paraphrase the Buddha — Three things cannot be long hidden: the sun; the moon; and the truth.
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HindleA wrote:#Comey


To paraphrase the Buddha — Three things cannot be long hidden: the sun; the moon; and the truth.
That's beautiful.
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Looking like the Times might just have tried to stitch up Angela Rayner in their paper interview today? (for the uninitiated: they have gone big on her supposedly disagreeing with the councillor deselections in Haringey, leading to some dismay from left wingers - but she is apparently now claiming she didn't say this)
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What Green seems to have done would land most people in significant trouble
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Oh dear, Nadine Dorries seems to have broken the rules on sharing passwords. I would have been amazed if there wasn't such a rule laid down.

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"When politics becomes the whims and mad schemes of a small minority that only listen to themselves, unmodified by the normal checks and balances of a functioning democracy, it should be treated by the non-partisan media for what it is, not normalised as just more of the same."

- Simon Wren-Lewis
2 December 2017

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The paragraphs proceeding this statement explain why current affairs don't fall under '’twas ever thus' invocations.
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For us lot:

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It's alright - I didn't listen to that.
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