Saturday 2nd & Sunday 3rd December 2017

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sat 02 Dec, 2017 9:35 pm

and PF (and others)

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 02 Dec, 2017 9:43 pm

What the PF who didn't put a PTO and goes into a strop when others don't that PF?

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Sat 02 Dec, 2017 9:45 pm

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sat 02 Dec, 2017 9:47 pm

yep. THAT one.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 02 Dec, 2017 9:48 pm

Constance doing the washing up.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sat 02 Dec, 2017 9:49 pm

So it's not ALL football and fags then.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Sat 02 Dec, 2017 9:50 pm

HindleA wrote:Constance doing the washing up.

Yes - about time, too. The amount of cutlery she uses is unbelievable.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sat 02 Dec, 2017 9:51 pm

A mate wore a t-shirt the other day expressly to amuse me (very kind). It said:

"SURELY NOT EVERYBODY WAS KUNG FU FIGHTING"

I was duly cheered.

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sat 02 Dec, 2017 9:52 pm

PorFavor wrote:
HindleA wrote:Constance doing the washing up.
Yes - about time, too. The amount of cutlery she uses is unbelievable.

Cats.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 02 Dec, 2017 9:54 pm

@tc2 I only give the edited highlights,probably for the best.

Post by **PaulfromYorkshire** » Sat 02 Dec, 2017 9:56 pm

Apparently, Roy Hattersley is a "grandee"

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... byelection" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

labour-faces-subversion-momentum-far-left-roy-hattersley-watford-byelection

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 02 Dec, 2017 10:01 pm

."Tomorrow’s Observer: All members of the government’s social mobility commission to quit."

Post by **adam** » Sat 02 Dec, 2017 10:02 pm

RogerOThornhill wrote:
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My staff log onto my computer on my desk with my login everyday. Including interns on exchange programmes. For the officer on @BBCNews just now to claim that the computer on Greens desk was accessed and therefore it was Green is utterly preposterous !!
If I'd let someone else use my login I'd have faced disciplinary procedures - simply not on.

That's a good point - we have it written in to our code of conduct that sharing passwords must not happen, and you must not log in to anybody else's account. We used to be very lax with this until our then head of IT said that in his experience of industry it was absolutely standard to be gross misconduct and dismissal.

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Sat 02 Dec, 2017 10:04 pm

Night night.

Post by **adam** » Sat 02 Dec, 2017 10:09 pm

tinyclanger2 wrote:A mate wore a t-shirt the other day expressly to amuse me (very kind). It said:

"SURELY NOT EVERYBODY WAS KUNG FU FIGHTING"

I was duly cheered.

A favourite bit from a favourite film (from 33seconds in - it won't let me put the 'start here' timecode in)

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AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Sat 02 Dec, 2017 10:12 pm

PaulfromYorkshire wrote:Apparently, Roy Hattersley is a "grandee"

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... byelection" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

labour-faces-subversion-momentum-far-left-roy-hattersley-watford-byelection

"Watford byelection"? Have I missed something??

tinybgoat · Post by **tinybgoat** » Sat 02 Dec, 2017 10:13 pm

HindleA wrote:."Tomorrow’s Observer: All members of the government’s social mobility commission to quit."

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... an-milburn" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

tinybgoat · Post by **tinybgoat** » Sat 02 Dec, 2017 10:20 pm

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/c ... t-11624261" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The Tories are secretly pausing the disastrous roll out of Universal Credit in
Theresa May ’s constituency.
They are also delaying the benefits shake-up in the constituencies of a string of top Tories, including that of Work and Pensions Secretary David Gauke , under fire First Secretary of State Damian Green and UC’s architect Iain Duncan Smith.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Sat 02 Dec, 2017 10:24 pm

PorFavor wrote:Night night.

Goodnight, PorFavor

gilsey · Post by **gilsey** » Sat 02 Dec, 2017 10:27 pm

tinybgoat wrote:http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/c ... t-11624261
The Tories are secretly pausing the disastrous roll out of Universal Credit in
Theresa May ’s constituency.
They are also delaying the benefits shake-up in the constituencies of a string of top Tories, including that of Work and Pensions Secretary David Gauke , under fire First Secretary of State Damian Green and UC’s architect Iain Duncan Smith.

an analysis of the new timetable for, comparing it to the previous rollout schedule, showed that Maidenhead, Ashford, Hemel Hempstead, Walthamstow and Redbridge Job Centres Plus will all now delay the roll out by three months.

These cover the bulk of the constituencies of Maidenhead, Ashford, South West Hertfordshire and Chingford and Woodford Green.

Only South Oxhey, a small, working class and generally Labour-voting area of David Gauke’s constituency will continue to have Universal Credit imposed on time.

The other Job Centre Plus in the London Borough of Waltham Forest, which serves Labour seats rather than Iain Duncan Smith’s seat, will implement UC earlier.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 02 Dec, 2017 10:31 pm

Was supposed to be all done and dusted by the end of this year.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Sat 02 Dec, 2017 10:31 pm

tinybgoat wrote:http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/c ... t-11624261
The Tories are secretly pausing the disastrous roll out of Universal Credit in
Theresa May ’s constituency.
They are also delaying the benefits shake-up in the constituencies of a string of top Tories, including that of Work and Pensions Secretary David Gauke , under fire First Secretary of State Damian Green and UC’s architect Iain Duncan Smith.

If it's not good for one constituency it's not good enough for any

AngryAsWell · Post by **AngryAsWell** » Sat 02 Dec, 2017 11:25 pm

Jeremy Corbyn stretches Labour lead over Tories to largest gap for five months according to only pollster to call Election right
The poll by Survation, which was the only company to accurately forecast June’s General Election result, puts Labour on 45 per cent, with the Conservatives trailing on 37 per cent

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/j ... r-11630864" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Now just come out against Brexit Jeremy, and it's in the bag.

AngryAsWell · Post by **AngryAsWell** » Sat 02 Dec, 2017 11:29 pm

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Survation a bit of an outlier, as it was when it uniquely correctly predicted GE17 on basis of more young turning out... - not sure how much other pollsters changed methods post election, but will younger voters continue June-stylehigh turnout?

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(Posting for AK as, if you scroll down, there are some tables shown which maybe interesting )
Edit to delete random grammar errors ...

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Sat 02 Dec, 2017 11:34 pm

Oh dear...it gets worse...

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Trump’s tweet today suggesting he knew that Flynn had lied to the FBI when he fired him was drafted by Trump’s lawyer John Dowd, @kristinegWP reports.

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Sat 02 Dec, 2017 11:36 pm

Goodnight, everyone
love,
cJA

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Sat 02 Dec, 2017 11:39 pm

Yes, it is slightly baffling that you'd appoint someone from the other side to a position like this - always likely to blow up in your face.

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It remains amazing that a Labour cabinet minister ended up with a civil service secretariat to launch attacks on the govt.

Tubby Isaacs · Post by **Tubby Isaacs** » Sat 02 Dec, 2017 11:44 pm

Adonis has the same thing going at the Infrastructure Commission.

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sat 02 Dec, 2017 11:55 pm

RogerOThornhill · Post by **RogerOThornhill** » Sun 03 Dec, 2017 12:02 am

I swear that if I see anyone else tweet something about a "knowledge-rich curriculum" I won't be accountable for my actions.

I've just seen a variant.

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Introducing our team of subject specialist leaders, who ensure our trainee teachers get a deep, rich, knowledge of their subject

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sun 03 Dec, 2017 2:13 am

https://www.theguardian.com/education/2 ... my-schools" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

40,000 children trapped in ‘zombie’ academy schools

HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sun 03 Dec, 2017 2:22 am

https://www.theguardian.com/money/2017/ ... g-watchdog" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

30 hours of ‘free’ childcare scheme ruled misleading by advertising watchdog

frog222 · Post by **frog222** » Sun 03 Dec, 2017 7:01 am

HindleA wrote:https://www.theguardian.com/education/2 ... my-schools

40,000 children trapped in ‘zombie’ academy schools

""Last week Wakefield city council backed a motion asking that the trust be allowed to return to local authority control, arguing that the police should investigate the trust’s finances. Councillors said the trust should not be permitted to dissolve until an investigation had taken place and the results made public.

“This scandal could happen again if we don’t learn the lessons,” said Rayner. “The Tories have abandoned proper oversight of schools, and we now have a system that is fragmented and unaccountable.”

The Tories rejected Labour’s proposed amendments to the Education Act in 2015 that would have given Ofsted the power to conduct full inspections of trusts as well as their schools.""

I'm surprised the police have not already been called in on previous cases of asset-stripping and other wickedness.
Who is responsible for this neglect ?

tinyclanger2 · Post by **tinyclanger2** » Sun 03 Dec, 2017 7:40 am

https://www.markpack.org.uk/152855/surv ... eferendum/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

The gender split on opposing a poll is pretty fascinating:

A new online poll from Survation for the Mail on Sunday has found strong support for a referendum to be held on the terms of the Brexit deal once they are known:

PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Sun 03 Dec, 2017 9:27 am

Good morfternoon.

tinybgoat · Post by **tinybgoat** » Sun 03 Dec, 2017 10:15 am

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PorFavor · Post by **PorFavor** » Sun 03 Dec, 2017 10:30 am

I was going to watch the BBC's Andrew Marr programme - but, when his opening sally was to say that Nigel Farage was to be on it, I switched it off.

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Sun 03 Dec, 2017 10:46 am

Marr really needs to be put out to pasture. Becoming a bit of a trend with the Beeb, this.......

tinybgoat · Post by **tinybgoat** » Sun 03 Dec, 2017 11:58 am

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-42213067" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
"Brexit supporters list demands for 'divorce bill' talks"
Seeing as evidence suggests most Conservative MPs, (not least T.May & David Davis) & many Labour have accepted Brexit, Isn't it about time the ones pushing for non deal were referred to more accurately as "Deal Saboteurs" or 'Brexit Extremists' instead of as just 'Leading Brexit Supporters'?

tinybgoat · Post by **tinybgoat** » Sun 03 Dec, 2017 12:03 pm

https://mobile.twitter.com/Peston?ref_s ... r%5Eauthor" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Sun 03 Dec, 2017 12:16 pm

Hmmm........

Obviously he was saying that as an attempt to get people in line. But if "no Brexit" becomes an actual option, what then?

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Sun 03 Dec, 2017 12:34 pm

tinybgoat wrote:.
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HindleA · Post by **HindleA** » Sun 03 Dec, 2017 12:34 pm

https://beergbrexit.blog/2017/12/03/lon ... -road/amp/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Sun 03 Dec, 2017 12:36 pm

Good-afternoon, everyone
I'm laughing at tinybgoat's post attachment

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Sun 03 Dec, 2017 12:39 pm

It's not a funny thing, media normalising wicked ideas by pretending it's compatible with civilisation

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Sun 03 Dec, 2017 12:41 pm

AnatolyKasparov wrote:Hmmm........

Obviously he was saying that as an attempt to get people in line. But if "no Brexit" becomes an actual option, what then?

JHunt only bringing 'no Brexit' up to get support for any leadership bid

AnatolyKasparov · Post by **AnatolyKasparov** » Sun 03 Dec, 2017 12:45 pm

citizenJA wrote:
AnatolyKasparov wrote:Hmmm........

Obviously he was saying that as an attempt to get people in line. But if "no Brexit" becomes an actual option, what then?
JHunt only bringing 'no Brexit' up to get support for any leadership bid

Well, there's that too. I'm afraid I take him standing for the Tory leadership with about as much seriousness as JRM doing so, however

citizenJA · Post by **citizenJA** » Sun 03 Dec, 2017 12:53 pm

AnatolyKasparov wrote:
citizenJA wrote:
AnatolyKasparov wrote:Hmmm........

Obviously he was saying that as an attempt to get people in line. But if "no Brexit" becomes an actual option, what then?
JHunt only bringing 'no Brexit' up to get support for any leadership bid
Well, there's that too. I'm afraid I take him standing for the Tory leadership with about as much seriousness as JRM doing so, however

Hunt is going for broke

AngryAsWell · Post by **AngryAsWell** » Sun 03 Dec, 2017 1:06 pm

"Corbyn meets Costa in Lisbon, and “signals that Labour could be open to second Brexit referendum”

http://portugalresident.com/corbyn-meet ... m%E2%80%9D" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

gilsey · Post by **gilsey** » Sun 03 Dec, 2017 1:49 pm

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True also of Brexit.

edit - PTO