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AngryAsWell wrote:Daniel Hewitt‏Verified account
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Primary schools with washing machines to wash children's uniforms, where teachers charge parents phones who have no electricity, and give coats, shoes and food to their pupils. The GP who is treating kids for rickets. This is the poverty we have found in the North West in 2017

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Would have been nice if they'd spotted this 5 years ago.
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The Bank of England has a bright shiny new website.

It seems to be going down with some - if Chris Giles is typical - as well as when the ONS redesigned theirs...
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Most Labour MPs are doing great. I fundamentally disagree about major things with a handful of them. There's nothing wicked about supporting and voting Labour.
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Snow-hit southern Europe could face energy shortages after authorities warned that Austrian pipelines were likely to be out of action for days following an explosion and fire that ripped through a main gas hub near Vienna.

Baumgarten, where the explosion occurred, is a key distribution and reception hub for gas exports and imports, including from Russia, Europe’s biggest gas supplier. In Italy, where rain, snow and extreme cold weather have disrupted traffic in the north-east over the last few days, the country’s industry minister declared a state of emergency due to a lack of gas supplies.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/ ... on-austria" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
I know we've had this news earlier but I'd no idea the ramifications were this dire.
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Relying upon fossil fuels for supplying homes and businesses with power when feasible alternatives are available is dumb.
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@SH (3 quote rule so new thread)

Voting anyone but Labour won't stop Brexit. So Brexit is going to happen come what may.
I consider Brexit, coupled with a tory government, will be a disaster for generations to come.
Brexit under Labour will also be a disaster, economically & socially, but may not be quite as bad as under tory's.
Therefor this "Jim" will take the gun offered to him kill the Indians, and will turn it right onto Pedro, hit the floor running (or rolling) and hoping for the best.
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Your daily CRACE ! ----

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I'll give him his due, he has improved from a few years ago. Though he was so bad then that it would have been hard not to.

(though certain other HIGHLY RESPECTED "journalists" have managed to be consistently hideously bad over a period if years, mind)
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Somewhere today I saw the good fun hypothetical - if remain had won, would the leave campaigners have been happy with the UK adopting the Euro and joining the Schengen area?
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I think polls close in Alabama at 1am our time - there is a very thorough looking results page waiting to happen on the NYT site here.
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NonOxCol wrote:Morning.

At last night's British Journalism Awards, the Journalist of the Year award went to Nick Ferrari.

Always like to start the day with some good news.
On the other hand, Aditya Chakrabortty won the award for comment journalism. https://www.theguardian.com/media/2017/ ... ss-gazette" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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adam wrote:I think polls close in Alabama at 1am our time - there is a very thorough looking results page waiting to happen on the NYT site here.
Oh - go on, then, you've talked me into it . . .

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refitman wrote:
NonOxCol wrote:Morning.

At last night's British Journalism Awards, the Journalist of the Year award went to Nick Ferrari.

Always like to start the day with some good news.
On the other hand, Aditya Chakrabortty won the award for comment journalism. https://www.theguardian.com/media/2017/ ... ss-gazette" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Carole Cadwalla also got an award - can't find which at the moment.
Here's her twitter for anyone who doesn't follow her - well worth it

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Alabama court gives last-minute order that could impede recount procedure

Voting rights experts denounced the ruling that gives election officials permission not to preserve electronic ballot records as a blow to transparency

Controversy swirled over the mechanics of the Alabama Senate election after the state supreme court intervened at the eleventh hour to give election officials a green light not to preserve electronic ballot records that could form the basis of a recount. (Guardian)
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... -procedure
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Brexiteers will regret their pact with Farage
rachel sylvester

Ministers who exploited fears about immigration to win the EU referendum are wrong to think they can ignore it now

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/brex ... 4560d80946" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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David Allen Green‏
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There are four former senior UK officials tweeting freely, bluntly and informatively about Brexit - all worth a #Follow.

Former head of Treasury:
@nickmacpherson2

Former heads of Foreign Office:
@LordRickettsP and @SimonFraser00

Former chief government lawyer
@sirpauljenkins

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The Agitator‏
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Excellent video by @ifferforbes explaining ACOs (Accountable Care Organisations) and how the Tories are covertly privatising our NHS with no mandate to do so #HandsOffOurNHS
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Plea for Brexit deal on medicines amid shortage fears
Brexit could undermine the UK’s ability to prepare in the event of a Europe-wide pandemic, new research has found.

https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news ... 02844.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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The Pupil Premium
Published Tuesday, December 12, 2017

This House of Commons Library Briefing Paper provides an overview of policy on the Pupil Premium since its introduction in 2011, including funding levels, eligibility criteria, and accountability.

http://researchbriefings.parliament.uk/ ... ry/SN06700" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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EU sends stark warning to airlines on post-Brexit flying
Julia Fioretti

BRUSSELS (Reuters) - British airlines will lose all flying rights to the European Union if there is no transition agreement after Brexit, the EU executive said on Tuesday, a stark reminder of the risks facing the aviation sector if there is no deal.
In a notice to all airlines, the European Commission said UK air carriers would no longer enjoy traffic rights under any air transport agreement to which the EU is a party, meaning they would no longer have the right to fly to the EU and between its member states.

They would also lose flying rights under agreements between the EU and third countries, such as the U.S.-EU Open Skies agreement.

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Really, I just want to cry in disbelief

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I'm not a "Twitterer".
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PorFavor wrote:I'm not a "Twitterer".
You can still read them from the link (which is why I always add it) or do you not want twitter links posting ?
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No - I'm ok reading the links. I just can't participate. Thanks!
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PorFavor wrote:No - I'm ok reading the links. I just can't participate. Thanks!

:D Will keep posting them then :D
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Night night.
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AngryAsWell wrote:
PorFavor wrote:No - I'm ok reading the links. I just can't participate. Thanks!

:D Will keep posting them then :D
reading too !
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Well there we go, Labour abstained on the LibDeb amendment to stay in the single market.
I hope they have a good reason for this.... :fire:
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PorFavor wrote:Night night.
Goodnight, PorFavor
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None of this government operation stuff is on the Life in the UK Test
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Goodnight, everyone
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Fucking foreigners,especially taxi drivers.Picking up strangers,advising them to wear gloves and going out of their way to take you home.Shouldn't be allowed.

I repeat,because it appears not to be to be read or ignored,SH is by his own admission a blatant discriminator,stating targeted posters are worthless.Is this view indicative of anybody with even a pretence of morality.Certainly not in my book.
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Moore winning.
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Coverage on CNN,
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I was handballing.For the unaware,as I was I was expecting a popular European game it,is putting boxes in a lorry;Cadbury's mini-rolls going to Australia.Some Kipling's cakes were ready to go to the same place,but was cancelled.They blow up massive inflatable pillow things to fill any space,I may have head butted some in position.
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Too early to call,but Moore by 3.5% at the moment.
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Moore extending lead after 40%
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4% up after 50 %,going to be tough for Jones but just possible.
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6% lead after 60%
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Down to 2 5 after 68%
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About 23,000 difference after 72%
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"Democrats" areas still to come in,if the margin remains will be close.Lot of Moore's have come in/nearly finished.
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Down to 1% ,13,500 difference.
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Neck and neck ,3,000 after 86%
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Jones in lead after 87%
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Jones by 1% after 89%
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Not calling it,but I am Jones wins.
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Heard me CNN calls it for Jones.

First time in 25 years for Democrats.
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Makes the Senate 51 Republican 49 Democrats.
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By about 14,000 with 1% remaining.
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